Known problems with 154 we're looking into

FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds EntertainmentSan Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
edited November 2010 in NS2 General Discussion
- Some kind of "client and server differ" connection problem

- Some kind of "couldn't connect" problem

- Major CPU load, which is causing servers with more than 8-10 players to be a slideshow. We think we're quite close to fixing this, although it will probably need a few fixes. In the meantime, setting your server limit to 8-10 might be a good idea.

Those are the biggies we're focused on right now. Thanks for your patience guys, we really appreciate it!
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    hey flayra, there's something going on with shadows, they seem to be performing [much] worse than they were in 153.
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  • WatchMakerWatchMaker Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21233Members, Constellation
    I'm suffering the former, unfortunately.
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Ah. I know something did change with shadows, that's helpful.
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  • EldonEldon Join Date: 2010-07-15 Member: 72414Members, Constellation
    Cheers Flayra, when I did actually manage to host my own game it looked pretty good. I may have to wait for a fix on this one :P
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  • WatchMakerWatchMaker Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21233Members, Constellation
    There also seems to be a nice hitch drawing the pistol.
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  • MartinMartin Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73229Members
    Charlie,

    When I have 8 or so people connect within the first few seconds of the server starting up, I'm getting a crash. Is this a known issue?
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  • Mr. EpicMr. Epic Join Date: 2003-08-01 Member: 18660Members, Constellation
    Yeah something related to the specular detail seems to looks way better, what changed?
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  • VeNeMVeNeM Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 928Members
    sounds are looping for me again. play 1 pistol sound and you hear 2, and machine gun fire will play for about 5 secs after you stop firing.
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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1805999:date=Nov 16 2010, 08:38 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Flayra @ Nov 16 2010, 08:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1805999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah. I know something did change with shadows, that's helpful.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The shadows actually look a lot more pixelated / lower res to me than before... don't know if i'm imagining this though
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Shadow issue is know, some work on shadows is ongoing.
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1806012:date=Nov 17 2010, 01:14 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ Nov 17 2010, 01:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806012"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The shadows actually look a lot more pixelated / lower res to me than before... don't know if i'm imagining this though<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    it's not so much they're pixelated, as they're fuzzy and it seems like the shadows are interlaced.
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  • Mkk_BitestuffMkk_Bitestuff Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12407Members
    edited November 2010
    I have a crash report from when server.exe crashed if you are interested.. Its slightly over 200mb fully compressed.
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  • AvalonAvalon Join Date: 2007-03-04 Member: 60224Members
    edited November 2010
    Can confirm the shadows seem off, and the lightning looks differently as well.

    Any weapon I fire, alien or marine, results in double sounds. I still sometimes get the infinite rifle sound loop which will play for around 30-60 seconds after I fire a rifle shot. Also, while strafing with marines and firing, your muzzle flash isn't lined up with your gun.

    This is on Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit with a Radeon HD4850 512MB and Catalyst 9.11 drivers.
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  • LazerLazer Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    In a small engine I wrote that can render a single spotlight I was running into issues with the light looking choppy (like in 154) when the far clipping plane for rendering the shadowmap scene (player does not see this) was too far from the source iirc. Something similar might be going on here?
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  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    The game is graphically more broken for me now. Its hard to explain but when I enter a map I can't see the map itself save a few objects here and there. Printscreen is only giving me a black picture.
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  • LlamaFarmerLlamaFarmer Join Date: 2010-02-01 Member: 70388Members
    I assume the "couldn't connect" problem is the 1 i have.
    After joining a server and it finally loading up i'll have 2 maybe 3 seconds in the ready room before getting kicked with the message "could not establish a connection to the server"... when quite clearly i can because i was on it.
    Happens on all servers.
    Just incase this is different to the problem you have listed.
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  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    edited November 2010
    I got a 'Couldn't establish a connection with the server' error when trying to start a local LAN game.

    Surprisingly it was working fine when the initial update was released on Steam, but trying it now gives me this error.

    Something external perhaps?
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <img src="http://s2.kimag.es/share/84916003.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • 1stToast1stToast Join Date: 2007-12-02 Member: 63067Members
    Until today I’ve been pretty lucky with being able to connect most of the time.
    I tried six servers; UWE dev1, g3b2s,3AMG,NSA/W, Tlinuxm, LAN. Most of the msg. was “couldn’t establish connection with server” with a few “client and server differ” I was able to connect to both LAN and servers earlier today before the download.
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  • _Thresh__Thresh_ Join Date: 2008-01-11 Member: 63385Members
    When hosting a self game my fps reduced from 61 avg to 30 avg after deploying 10-15 buildings around the map

    Anyone else had this problem?
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  • ArcadianArcadian Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65617Members
    edited November 2010
    I've had a few crashes. First the text for the HUD becomes blurred, then the ammo counter for the rifle is blurred as well. Then it crashes. A few times certain models, (like the sentry gun, pistol) display only their normal map, (is it the normal map?)

    Before <a href="http://img821.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m21.png/" target="_blank">http://img821.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m21.png/</a>
    After <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m36.png/" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m36.png/</a>
    Pistol <a href="http://img580.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h55m08.png/" target="_blank">http://img580.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h55m08.png/</a>

    I might be wrong if the text always corrupts before it crashes.
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  • yimmasabiyimmasabi Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58318Members
    edited November 2010
    Hmm game works fine for me.

    But Editor shows completely wrong polygons, some of them deleted etc. When re creating faces, it generates new polygons which i never draw before. Some rectangular ares are goes triangular areas or some other shapes.
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  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    I just tried to play with 6 or so other players; but the game ended up being laggy like the last few patches and was unplayable - had to quit :(
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  • PerPer Join Date: 2007-02-11 Member: 59933Members
    edited November 2010
    Transparent bug still there.

    Weapon + Power node = Transparent

    Marine:
    When you put a weapon onto a power node, the weapon and power node becomes transparent.

    <a href="http://s1129.photobucket.com/albums/m509/Per_Magic/Natural%20Selection%202%20-%20Alpha/?action=view&current=capture_17112010_124311.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m509/Per_Magic/Natural%20Selection%202%20-%20Alpha/th_capture_17112010_124311.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2010
    Is it just me or is the webadmin server interface no longer working? (no matter what I type as password, it is always wrong)..

    Oh and it would come in handy to be able to enter and execute console commands on the actual server console.
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  • BomBomBomBom Join Date: 2010-07-30 Member: 73369Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    One thing i have noticed which could reflect on performance is the memory usage.
    Looking at a typical source engine game say CSS the usage i get from that is around 300k / 500k max!
    For NS2 it's using around 1.2GB and slowly creeping up, after a game lasting around 30mins the memory usage was almost 2GB.
    No idea what is using all that memory, also after playing i noticed a lot of the sounds didn't work anymore?
    For instance sounds at the end of rounds.
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  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1806083:date=Nov 17 2010, 03:44 PM:name=w0dk4)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w0dk4 @ Nov 17 2010, 03:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806083"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is it just me or is the webadmin server interface no longer working? (no matter what I type as password, it is always wrong)..

    Oh and it would come in handy to be able to enter and execute console commands on the actual server console.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Also, any player can call reset on any server, effectively being able to destroy any game. Server admins may want to disable the reset command in Console_ServerCommands.lua
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  • {FRG}Stinkbugg{FRG}Stinkbugg Join Date: 2010-06-28 Member: 72189Members
    When I start the game all that comes up is black screen with a "Alpha Build 154 in the corner Press F1 for feedback". And it just hangs there........... no main menu.
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1806061:date=Nov 17 2010, 10:06 AM:name=Arcadian)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arcadian @ Nov 17 2010, 10:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806061"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've had a few crashes. First the text for the HUD becomes blurred, then the ammo counter for the rifle is blurred as well. Then it crashes. A few times certain models, (like the sentry gun, pistol) display only their normal map, (is it the normal map?)

    Before <a href="http://img821.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m21.png/" target="_blank">http://img821.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m21.png/</a>
    After <a href="http://img228.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m36.png/" target="_blank">http://img228.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h53m36.png/</a>
    Pistol <a href="http://img580.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h55m08.png/" target="_blank">http://img580.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap2010111702h55m08.png/</a>

    I might be wrong if the text always corrupts before it crashes.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Can you post your Operating system and GPU brand?
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  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1806092:date=Nov 17 2010, 04:31 PM:name={FRG}Stinkbugg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ({FRG}Stinkbugg @ Nov 17 2010, 04:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806092"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When I start the game all that comes up is black screen with a "Alpha Build 154 in the corner Press F1 for feedback". And it just hangs there........... no main menu.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    your computer specs too please
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