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  • {FRG}Stinkbugg{FRG}Stinkbugg Join Date: 2010-06-28 Member: 72189Members
    AMD Athlon 3.0ghz Dual Core 6000+
    3gig Ram
    Twin Geforce 8600 gt 512mg cards SLI
    Windows XP
    ASUS Board (using on board sound)
    Mushkin Power Supply
    Runnin off aFiber Optic Connection

    (A little Dated) But can run games like L4D2 full blast...

    Had usualy frame rate issues that allot have, had significant improvment last patch 152, then straight black screen.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1806103:date=Nov 17 2010, 03:32 PM:name=SgtBarlow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SgtBarlow @ Nov 17 2010, 03:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806103"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->your computer specs too please<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think it's a common problem, it happens to me sometimes after i change resolutions/graphics settings, sometimes after i alt-tab.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited November 2010
    window mode is slower then fullscreen mode, I can run window mode in 1280x720@aweful and I can run fullscreen in 1680x1050 in medium and get the same FPS.

    Fps ranges from 20-30 depending on how many building are onscreen. All in all a very nice patch for me at least, it does still feel sluggish and laggy, but it no longer stutters with FPS

    [edit]
    Localhost testing, "single" player



    Switching texture modes ingame is still an issue though, between aweful and medium there is no problem. But as soon as I try to switch to high, the game either crashes instantly or will reload as usual but with a blurred out interface. In this case, as soon as I try to move the game will crash. I've had this problem with all build so far, high will kill my game.

    Hd4850 512Mb might be the cause, I'm not sure. Memory on NS2.exe does go over 500Mb when trying to switch to high so...
  • GeneralBowserGeneralBowser Join Date: 2010-05-19 Member: 71801Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1806108:date=Nov 17 2010, 08:57 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Nov 17 2010, 08:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806108"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i think it's a common problem, it happens to me sometimes after i change resolutions/graphics settings, sometimes after i alt-tab.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Happened to me first time I booted up after new patch. But after a cntr alt delete I tried again and it booted up fully this time.
    I tried to connect to servers for about 30 minutes or so, but I have given up now. I had fraps up and ready to bench mark another movie but I guess I will have to wait for next patch despite all those promising tweets..
  • BadIronTreeBadIronTree Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34252Members
    Natural Selection 2 Ati 4870x2 flickering bug is still there in every build :(
    IN almost all crossfire setups
    but in 3870x2 and 4870x2 you cant disable crossfire...

    my eyes bleed ... and i cant play-test....

    check my video

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBcByAFVvAw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBcByAFVvAw</a>
  • sicbudsicbud Join Date: 2009-07-08 Member: 68083Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1806115:date=Nov 17 2010, 03:27 PM:name=BadIronTree)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BadIronTree @ Nov 17 2010, 03:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806115"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Natural Selection 2 Ati 4870x2 flickering bug is still there in every build :(
    IN almost all crossfire setups
    but in 3870x2 and 4870x2 you cant disable crossfire...

    my eyes bleed ... and i cant play-test....

    check my video

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBcByAFVvAw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBcByAFVvAw</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You can disable crossfire with a 3870x2 or 4870x2 by disabling the Catalyst A.I.
  • _Thresh__Thresh_ Join Date: 2008-01-11 Member: 63385Members
    edited November 2010
    r_shadows false should stop that flicker

    if you cant just turn crossfire off
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1806107:date=Nov 17 2010, 07:57 PM:name={FRG}Stinkbugg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ({FRG}Stinkbugg @ Nov 17 2010, 07:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806107"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->AMD Athlon 3.0ghz Dual Core 6000+
    3gig Ram
    Twin Geforce 8600 gt 512mg cards SLI
    Windows XP
    ASUS Board (using on board sound)
    Mushkin Power Supply
    Runnin off aFiber Optic Connection

    (A little Dated) But can run games like L4D2 full blast...

    Had usualy frame rate issues that allot have, had significant improvment last patch 152, then straight black screen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Have you played around with disabling SLI?
  • {FRG}Stinkbugg{FRG}Stinkbugg Join Date: 2010-06-28 Member: 72189Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1806121:date=Nov 17 2010, 05:11 PM:name=SgtBarlow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SgtBarlow @ Nov 17 2010, 05:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806121"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Have you played around with disabling SLI?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just tried. Same deal though... is there a way to copy text from Console? allot of stuff in it. Perhaps it could help.
  • {FRG}Stinkbugg{FRG}Stinkbugg Join Date: 2010-06-28 Member: 72189Members
    Also just installed latest drivers for cards..... no luck
  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    Everything in console appears in the logs.

    It's in %appdata%\Natural Selection 2\log.txt
  • ArcadianArcadian Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65617Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1806102:date=Nov 17 2010, 02:26 PM:name=SgtBarlow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SgtBarlow @ Nov 17 2010, 02:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806102"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can you post your Operating system and GPU brand?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Windows XP 32Bit, AMD Radeon 6870.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    How do you take a screenshot of ingame NS2. Printscreen pasted into mspaint just shows a black image.
  • AvalonAvalon Join Date: 2007-03-04 Member: 60224Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1806129:date=Nov 18 2010, 12:07 AM:name=DuoGodOfDeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DuoGodOfDeath @ Nov 18 2010, 12:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806129"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How do you take a screenshot of ingame NS2. Printscreen pasted into mspaint just shows a black image.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Try using Fraps, it might let you capture a screenshot.
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <a href="http://www.wegame.com/" target="_blank">http://www.wegame.com/</a> - Video & Screenshot capturing
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    edited November 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1806127:date=Nov 17 2010, 10:41 PM:name=Arcadian)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arcadian @ Nov 17 2010, 10:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806127"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Windows XP 32Bit, AMD Radeon 6870.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Apparently the issue your experiencing is a result of being out of Video Memory. Try running the game on Medium quailty and let me know if the issue remains, i think there may be a bizarr issue with 1GB Cards that are fine on Meduim.
    I will pass this on for you.



    <!--quoteo(post=1806125:date=Nov 17 2010, 10:32 PM:name={FRG}Stinkbugg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ({FRG}Stinkbugg @ Nov 17 2010, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806125"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also just installed latest drivers for cards..... no luck<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I used to run SLI, I currently run one as a physics processor with no bridge connector, give that ago. Need some sort of confirmation its not something else rather than just an SLI problem. It realy should not be an issue as its supposed to be handled automaticaly by the Drivers.
    Also try altenrate Frame Rednering if its not already set to it, should be by default?
  • DaveKapDaveKap Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10660Members
    If you guys need help from an external connection, I live in San Francisco (cya next Post-Mortem!) and face those two connection problems you mentioned. I'd be willing to help out tracing network communications or whatever, in case it's hard for you to test this with your internal team.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    edited November 2010
    OKay the wegame thing kinda works. Have to turn the game on first, make a server, then turn wegame on. Some reason non of the keys work in NS2 with that program running at the same time but whatever.

    Heres build 154 for me :(

    <a href="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3314/ns2201011171709335.jpg" target="_blank">http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3314/ns2201011171709335.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6973/ns2201011171714593.jpg" target="_blank">http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6973/ns...11171714593.jpg</a>

    XFX ATI HD 4870 1GB 10.11 drivers 10/17/2010
    Windows 7x64
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1806142:date=Nov 18 2010, 12:01 AM:name=DuoGodOfDeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DuoGodOfDeath @ Nov 18 2010, 12:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806142"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->OKay the wegame thing kinda works. Have to turn the game on first, make a server, then turn wegame on. Some reason non of the keys work in NS2 with that program running at the same time but whatever.

    Heres build 154 for me :(

    <a href="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3314/ns2201011171709335.jpg" target="_blank">http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3314/ns2201011171709335.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6973/ns2201011171714593.jpg" target="_blank">http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6973/ns...11171714593.jpg</a>

    XFX ATI HD 4870 1GB new ati drivers came out today trying those out...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Anything change if you turn off Catalyst A.I. ?
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Here is one more thing to try for anyone with a 1GB Card, XP or other try running the game in compatability mode. Start with <b>WinXP SP3</b>
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Not sure if this is the cause of the server connection problems, but the connection_log.txt files have these messages in them on our server:

    ...

    [2010-11-12 20:20:39][0,0] : CUDPConnection::OnFailedSend() failure info
    pending unsent: 0, unacked sent: 1, our seq sent: 493
    message pending type 6, packets 1, seq [493, 493], first unacked: 493, size 64
    [2010-11-12 20:20:39][0,0] : StartAutoReconnect() will start in 12 seconds
    [2010-11-12 20:20:51][1,10] : Connect() starting connection (eNetQOSLevelLow, REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-12 20:20:53][1,10] : ConnectionCompleted() (REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-12 20:20:53][1,10] : RecvMsgClientLogOnResponse() : 'OK'


    [2010-11-13 02:20:07][0,0] : Log session started
    [2010-11-13 02:20:07][0,0] : SetSteamID( [A:1:0:0] )
    [2010-11-13 02:20:07][1,2] : Connect() starting connection (eNetQOSLevelLow, REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-13 02:20:08][1,2] : ConnectionCompleted() (REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-13 02:20:09][1,2] : RecvMsgClientLogOnResponse() : 'Service Unavailable'
    [2010-11-13 02:20:09][0,0] : ConnectionDisconnected('Disconnected By Remote Host') : 'Failure' (REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-13 02:20:09][0,0] : [2010-11-13 02:20:09][0,0] : StartAutoReconnect() will start in 4 seconds
    [2010-11-13 02:20:12][1,6] : Connect() starting connection (eNetQOSLevelMedium, REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-13 02:20:14][1,6] : ConnectionCompleted() (REMOVED:27017, UDP)
    [2010-11-13 02:20:15][1,6] : RecvMsgClientLogOnResponse() : 'OK'

    ...
  • Mkk_BitestuffMkk_Bitestuff Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12407Members
    Sometimes while roaming around the game will pause for like 5+ seconds, and then the console starts spamming this

    SoundEventInstance::SetProperty(ambient/steam breathing, 18 = 20.32): setValue(): An invalid parameter was passed to this function.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0.206566, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.
    SoundEventInstance::SetParameter(alien/skulk/idle, speed = 0.206566, 10): getValue(): An invalid object handle was used.

    And by spamming, i mean over 14k lines in about a minute.
  • MartinMartin Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73229Members
    Server limit still looks like it's ignored. I have 11 people connected right now but -limit is set to 8
  • w0dk4w0dk4 Join Date: 2008-04-22 Member: 64129Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Try setting the limit via the .cfg files, it works for my servers.
  • Mr. EpicMr. Epic Join Date: 2003-08-01 Member: 18660Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1806142:date=Nov 17 2010, 07:01 PM:name=DuoGodOfDeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DuoGodOfDeath @ Nov 17 2010, 07:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806142"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->OKay the wegame thing kinda works. Have to turn the game on first, make a server, then turn wegame on. Some reason non of the keys work in NS2 with that program running at the same time but whatever.

    Heres build 154 for me :(

    <a href="http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3314/ns2201011171709335.jpg" target="_blank">http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3314/ns2201011171709335.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6973/ns2201011171714593.jpg" target="_blank">http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6973/ns...11171714593.jpg</a>

    XFX ATI HD 4870 1GB 10.11 drivers 10/17/2010
    Windows 7x64<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I had the same problem and fixed it, the solution is to go into your catalyst control panel and have it reset the defaults. I think what was going on was a bad registry setting from a previous driver. I tried updating drivers first before and it did nothing to fix the problem, but after resetting the defaults in the CC it fixed it right up.
  • MartinMartin Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73229Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1806164:date=Nov 17 2010, 05:49 PM:name=w0dk4)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (w0dk4 @ Nov 17 2010, 05:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806164"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Try setting the limit via the .cfg files, it works for my servers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Limit was set in server.xml and as limit in the start up arguments. Console said "Changing setting 'playerLimit' to: '8'..."
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Thanks for the feed back, Reset bug and max energy bugs have been fixed.
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    @SgtBarlow: Do you/UW check the getsatisfaction site anymore; its unclear to me/us I guess which area we're supposed to be reporting bugs and we have no idea if they've been acknowledged.
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1806170:date=Nov 18 2010, 02:20 AM:name=Plasma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Plasma @ Nov 18 2010, 02:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1806170"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->@SgtBarlow: Do you/UW check the getsatisfaction site anymore; its unclear to me/us I guess which area we're supposed to be reporting bugs and we have no idea if they've been acknowledged.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->



    Max & Charlie do but it gets plastered with reports, some stuff might get missed i don't know, I don't like the thing my self :) .


    Also, the log you posted above is that an <u>In game log</u> or a <u>server log?</u> & <u>Local Host</u> or <u>Playing on a server</u>?

    Same question to you <b>Mkk_Bitestuff</b>
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