petition : bring back right click menu tree

sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">maybe as addition to the tab menu for vets</div>newcomers can still use the tab menu. i think the right mouse button menu was way more intuitive, and faster to use, it was almost like drawing gestures , felt kinda "organic" and very intuitive after some time when you got the whole tree in your head
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  • nUfl0wnUfl0w Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42412Members
    I think they shouldnt add redundant systems before the rest of the content is in.
    I didnt like it very much. Didnt use it though. It was way faster to bind some impulse-commands.
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  • lunsluns Join Date: 2010-12-05 Member: 75502Members
    i agree with this, it was simple and effective. I honestly didn't care much for the fancy special effects for the menus, it was fine in ns1 and it should stay the same.
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  • kababkabab Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24384Members, Constellation
    Yeah i'm surprised they removed it to! It really was a really distinctive and efficient feature in NS1
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  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    Then you need another button to do alt fire.
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    just get rid of the alt fire, it wasnt needed before.. or make the tab button have a setting in the options for gui or menu tree option
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  • TriggermanTriggerman Graphic Artist Join Date: 2004-11-10 Member: 32724Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    edited December 2010
    Removing alt-fire is silly. Aliens are built around using both left and right button so they can't use that menu, and removing so many skills just for a voice-comm menu doesn't seem right. No matter if the current alt-fires for marines aren't all that good, it's still paving way for more interesting changes in the future updates.
    Stop being so nostalgic :/
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  • GrapeVineGrapeVine Join Date: 2006-12-01 Member: 58803Members
    I'd rather have alt fire than a menu that can very well be on a keyboard button
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  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    Someone actually used that woah, all it did was get in the way :/
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  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1815812:date=Dec 14 2010, 12:27 AM:name=sheena_yanai)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sheena_yanai @ Dec 14 2010, 12:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1815812"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->newcomers can still use the tab menu. i think the right mouse button menu was way more intuitive, and faster to use, it was almost like drawing gestures , felt kinda "organic" and very intuitive after some time when you got the whole tree in your head<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree but it'd have to be a keyboard key. Throw in gorge buildings in there too and make the menu simple.

    Also speaking of right click menu, I wouldn't mind an option for a non-GUI build menu for the gorge (press "b" for example, then you'll get options to press 1, 2, 3, etc to drop buildings).

    Edit: To clarify, an option for "not" having the build menu on one of the number keys.
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    Q for Qontext.
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  • yimmasabiyimmasabi Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58318Members
    I like the circular menu of Crysis which is fast and easy to select.
    Also I use middle button as a menu and right menu for blink.
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1815856:date=Dec 14 2010, 11:10 PM:name=yimmasabi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yimmasabi @ Dec 14 2010, 11:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1815856"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like the circular menu of Crysis<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->maximum bellyslide

    maximum gorgerush

    maximum ragequit<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1815834:date=Dec 14 2010, 09:40 PM:name=Triggerman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Triggerman @ Dec 14 2010, 09:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1815834"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Removing alt-fire is silly. Aliens are built around using both left and right button so they can't use that menu, and removing so many skills just for a voice-comm menu doesn't seem right. No matter if the current alt-fires for marines aren't all that good, it's still paving way for more interesting changes in the future updates.
    Stop being so nostalgic :/<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    its not just for voice com, the whole alien gestating process and upgrades was centered around it. and i already said it does not have to be the right mouse button, it still could be a optional setting instead of the gui button
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  • BJHBnade_spammerBJHBnade_spammer Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42431Members
    what about setting it to the scroll button maby that might help?
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    I always found the tree system rather stupid, hard to find the commands you want and takes up the whole screen. Plus you can use the second mouse button for far better things.
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  • NurEinMenschNurEinMensch Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14056Members, Constellation
    No, don't bring that back.
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  • RuntehRunteh Join Date: 2010-06-26 Member: 72163Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    It worked horribly and looked bad. Why?
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  • TriggermanTriggerman Graphic Artist Join Date: 2004-11-10 Member: 32724Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    Okay, as long as you don't get any funny ideas removing the right-click functionality.
    If it was bound to clicking middle-mouse button or something like that I could live with it, since I'm rather fond of radial menus myself (although I think it could really be a bit more streamlined) and I kind of find the "Buy" menu for aliens to be quite disruptive (big humongous overlay with the only way to close it is to hit "Close").
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2010
    You know, I find the current upgrade menu more intuitive. You don't have to search all possible branches as a new player...

    You're a Skulk, go to the Skulk tab and select your upgrades and you're done. Easier to use, but the b key or what ever you are using for it should also close it instead of the close button topright
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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I like the new evolve menu, its far more intuitive.
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  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    You don't need rightclick for the context menu. Any key will do , really.

    The context menu was especially useful for marines and gorges. The latter won't have much use for it anymore , but the former still bring a strong case to keep it.
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  • TwiggehTwiggeh Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74165Members
    Ohdeargodno! That menu was horrible! reinstating that would be like cutting of our feet, saying we didnt really need that anyway while we lived under water. Things have evolved since back then.
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    i loved the right click menu. but now maybe make it mouse3 so we can keep our secondary fire.
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  • DelphicDelphic Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58262Members
    Do not want right click (or any key) menu tree. That is all.
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  • derWalterderWalter Join Date: 2008-10-29 Member: 65323Members
    i only used hotkeys....

    i used my whole numpad for evolving options :)
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1816183:date=Dec 15 2010, 06:24 PM:name=derWalter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (derWalter @ Dec 15 2010, 06:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1816183"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i only used hotkeys....

    i used my whole numpad for evolving options :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quite similar setup here, I actually had separate configs that loaded for each alien. Mah Gorgy had R set to resource tower placement :P
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  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    edited December 2010
    Use the radial aspect for aliens, but lose the submenus. That would fit best with NS2, I think. (obviously not on right-click)
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  • kingmobkingmob Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3650Members, Constellation
    NO.

    This popped up before and I'll vote again.
    Although I thought it was fun...I really did.
    Do not bring back the right-click menu.
    New system is far more intuitive.

    I remember trying to get my friends to play Natural Selection and the right-click menu was not intuitive at all.
    I didn't realize it until watching them.
    But basically (this was at a house LAN party) this was the scenario.
    ...I would get up from my chair.
    ...I would walk over and tell them where to go in the menu.
    ...They got sick of asking me.
    ...Marines always won.

    2 people out of all my friends I convinced Natural Selection was a good game.
    This was all because of the learning curve.

    Everything UW does to make interface consistent and intuitive helps YOU to have more people to play with.
    :-)
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