Night vision+motion tracking: Yes or no?
louis cardinal
Join Date: 2010-12-14 Member: 75664Members
Join Date: 2010-12-14 Member: 75664Members
<div class="IPBDescription">If your reading this you should have already opened the topic.</div>Okay lets see... automatic rifles... shotguns... flame thrower.... grenade launchers... ability to teleport matter into areas (the buildings)... have little small robots to help us build and repair (MACS)... we have a weapon that completely decimates organic matter (ARC) ... yes we have highly advanced armors and weapon upgrades... wait waht the hell is this flashlight? lol? which year do we live in? i thought this was a sci-fi futuristic space game against aliens.
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Please click the link below and open it on a new window OR tab:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug</a>
Now when this is open <!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->watch it up untill 45 seconds, then from 45-54 you see a man with some kind of electronic device visor AND A PAIR OF NIGHT VISION GOGGLES ON TOP OF THIS HEAD (hes badass so hes not using em)
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Okay i believe people now get my point here? its in there, in the trailer so why not in the game?
My proposition:
Okay obviously flash light is awesome and makes the game a crazy good experience, also the lighting for the flashlights is amazing and no other i have seen.
BUT how is this:
i have a idea that makes 100% sense, its realistic and it works:
There is going to be a upgrade in the game, its called this for now, not the offical name but you guys can decide what to call it later:
Advanced Display Systems
This can be bought when you spawn for about lets say... 8 plasma?
Now this only works when turned on, so after you buy em you can turn them on with a pressed key that toggles them on and off.
This will give you: a minor night vision that AUTOMATICLLY turns on when you approach dark areas of the map to light them up lightly with a short range, you can use flashlight still and see things from a far but this will assit you clearly in close combat areas. AND you will get your motion tracking (from ns1) here, you will get blips on your screen like in ns1 and they will show up on your screen. OR we can have a alternate button to turn the night vision on and off, of course the motion tracking will be permanent, who doesnt want to know where the enemy is.
This needs to be reasearched, this requires a observatory open up to be researched, then this technology is retrieved from an armory.
Now you may do the folllowing:
Comment... as usual... OR:
Say how freaking awesome this idea is and how it makes sense because in the video about ( <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug</a> ) and at that video 45-53 seconds some 1 had them on their head, THIS SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
<!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->WHERES NIGHT VISION GUYS?
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Please click the link below and open it on a new window OR tab:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug</a>
Now when this is open <!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->watch it up untill 45 seconds, then from 45-54 you see a man with some kind of electronic device visor AND A PAIR OF NIGHT VISION GOGGLES ON TOP OF THIS HEAD (hes badass so hes not using em)
<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
Okay i believe people now get my point here? its in there, in the trailer so why not in the game?
My proposition:
Okay obviously flash light is awesome and makes the game a crazy good experience, also the lighting for the flashlights is amazing and no other i have seen.
BUT how is this:
i have a idea that makes 100% sense, its realistic and it works:
There is going to be a upgrade in the game, its called this for now, not the offical name but you guys can decide what to call it later:
Advanced Display Systems
This can be bought when you spawn for about lets say... 8 plasma?
Now this only works when turned on, so after you buy em you can turn them on with a pressed key that toggles them on and off.
This will give you: a minor night vision that AUTOMATICLLY turns on when you approach dark areas of the map to light them up lightly with a short range, you can use flashlight still and see things from a far but this will assit you clearly in close combat areas. AND you will get your motion tracking (from ns1) here, you will get blips on your screen like in ns1 and they will show up on your screen. OR we can have a alternate button to turn the night vision on and off, of course the motion tracking will be permanent, who doesnt want to know where the enemy is.
This needs to be reasearched, this requires a observatory open up to be researched, then this technology is retrieved from an armory.
Now you may do the folllowing:
Comment... as usual... OR:
Say how freaking awesome this idea is and how it makes sense because in the video about ( <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug</a> ) and at that video 45-53 seconds some 1 had them on their head, THIS SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
Comments
If they made nightvision it should be ultra sensitive to light (Kinda reversing the hiding spots... So aliens should stay in the light if they see a marine with nightvision) and take a sec or two to power up/down with complete black screen. Otherwise I think it would destroy the gameplay.
But thats just me ;D
How about we keep that... like in ns1's motion tracking.
besides in the video at 45-53 seconds it makes it look stupid that he has goggles: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9STE1m2ug</a>
You'd have to create a new model, texture and effect for the game.
Plus as stated above,
it would ruin the aliens ability to hide,
which they need,
because they aren't carrying guns.
No. Just <b>no</b>.
Night vision? Not just for special edition orders. Otherwise, eh. Whatever. It's a gimmick. I'm neutral on the subject.
if you think about it, its completely different if you played with it. That is all.
No automatic on/off, anything that takes away control is annoying as hell.
Yes if the actual night vision narrows fov and only works to a medium-close distance. This way you sacrifice your wide perception for specific parts in the dark near you. Lerks can still hide far away and snipe you etc. Think of the grainy counter-strike googles.
motion tracking was overpowering in ns1, and we really do have to agree with this guys. As marines I loved it but as alien it pretty much ruined it all, and aliens had very little ways to countering it, wasn't too happy.
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Yes, it was a "huge aspect" of NS1. I only play with scent of fear if my alien team SC rushes.
And it's overpowered. It takes away loop-around counter attacking from the game and in general <i>exactly mimics wall hacking</i>. It's hugeness is exactly why is should not be in NS2. NS1 was a mod, and overpowered gimmicky cool stuff could be put in because nothing mattered. NS2 is a game, so "Hey, it looks cool" is insufficient.
Only motion tracking I would be ok with is one that is limited to a range around the observer, and each observer you build you will have to upgrade to a "advanced observatory" before it can track. This way the only place marines will have the advantage is in their home space like it should be.
Night vision could be ok if it was its own upgrade and the cost, for the commander and the marines buying it, was balanced with it's overall effectiveness. It would seem off that marines wouldn't use some sort of night vision at some point.
I'm sure you could make it balanced.
okay no problem as i stated you can shape it in any way you want.
also post like a normal person. if you have to highlight something, make it bold. im pretty sure most people just ignore your suggestions and just look at the title of the thread
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the obs can be used to ping locations of the map, and protect the base to uncover hidden aliens.
And it can be built in other places to do the same.
the marines can detect movement so not only does this make it very GOOD FOR THEM but it also makes them DEPENDABLE:
if they went around a corner they wouldnt expect anything because they didnt see any blips: but a bunch of skulks and a onos were cloaked so they all got raped and ravaged.
see my point? that was a awesome factor of ns1, it was so cool and the suspense about it was great, it also makes the marines think twice when entering a room if something really is there.
motion tracking: only when you move
sent of fear: 24/7 all the time
if MT doesnt get implemented they why should sent of fear now.
I like how you said MT, only when you move. :P
I have two proposals for Motion Tracking: Either
1. Implement MT as a temporary ability activated by the commander, so it cannot be on all the time, or
2. MT covers only 1.5 rooms radius around the Observatory, and warns aliens that are detected by it as well. (like in SC2).