ns2_basic

yimmasabi · December 2010

<div class="IPBDescription">a performance map</div><u><b>EDIT: Updated For The Build 161 ! Enjoy It ! (13.01.2011)</b></u>

Map Name : ns2_basic
Map Version : 0.3
Editor Version : 161
Size : 112 KB (.level file) , 34 KB (full pack .rar)
Author(s) : yimmasabi
Download Link :<a href="http://www.yyoru.com/ns2/ns2_basic/ns2_basic.rar" target="_blank">http://www.yyoru.com/ns2/ns2_basic/ns2_basic.rar</a>

Version History:
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v0.1 :
+ New relase
v0.2 :
+ No egg bug fixed
+ Added way points
v0.3 :
+ "Error:lua/PowerPoint_Server.lua:196:attempt to indec local 'team' (a nil value)" bug fixed (somebody says it works but I had this bug)
+ Spectate and Random walls added, Join texts added

3 Hives and 4 RTs in the same room plus 3 Command Centers and 4 RTs in the oppside site and a central RT.
Totaly I can say I spend 1 of my day, not more !

Please post your comments here :)

3 Command Stations with 4 RTs
<img src="http://www.yyoru.com/ns2/ns2_basic/ns2_basic_crt_v1_base.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

a RT and Central Cargo
<img src="http://www.yyoru.com/ns2/ns2_basic/ns2_basic_crt_v1_center.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

3 Hives with 4 RTs
<img src="http://www.yyoru.com/ns2/ns2_basic/ns2_basic_crt_v1_hive.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

What do you think about this map? Any ideas?

yimmasabi · December 2010

yimmasabi · December 2010

Ok now download link is updated. You can test on your servers :) Please comment here if you find any bugs or if you have any ideas?

aetschi · December 2010

nice :)

Thaldarin · December 2010

It was only inevitable we'd see a "siege" map.

woody · December 2010

No Overview = No comm control LOL please put up all the files bty its running at 69.90.189.30:27015 KustomKarnage.com

yimmasabi · December 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (woody @ Dec 27 2010, 12:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1819593"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>No Overview = No comm control LOL please put up all the files bty its running at 69.90.189.30:27015 KustomKarnage.com</div>

You can generate by Overview.exe command.

Anyway i upload the .rar version including overviews and a simple info text

yimmasabi · December 2010

Thank you so much woody, I just played this map on your server.

And I want to report those below if it is helpfull for you or for UWE

1. When I joined there were 2 Command Stations probably someone tested and I sold the other one. But somehow when I put an IP it disappaers or sanks I dont know. Normaly in my LAN test there were no problem. And just checked and no problems.

2. I ate the base as an alien and game didnt finished, I cant restart map by myself. When I join as a marine there is no base now :) .

3. Server seems is a bit laggy then others, but pings are good. I connect from Turkey I dont know where the server is. But also USA servers are fine from here.

Thanks

Kouji_San · December 2010

Things wrong with the map:

<ul><li>Your navigation_waypoint are wrong and also lack their related group to work properly</li><li>You don't have a minimap_extends</li><li>There should be only one tech_point set to a team (meaning one alien only and one marine only) I think this is the reason the map doesn't reset</li><li>You have two power_points in one location entity, I probably will not work. Haven't tested it, but I guess it would produce some kind of conflict...</li><li>Siege map? :P</li></ul>

Maybe have a look at <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Ns2_sample" target="_blank">ns2_sample</a> to see how things work

yimmasabi · December 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Dec 28 2010, 04:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1819794"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Things wrong with the map:

[*]Your navigation_waypoint are wrong and also lack their related group to work properly</div>

Right, I have problems about stupid bots, probably it is.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[*]You don't have a minimap_extends</div>

No there is, some objects are hidden, you should open minimap layer from the layers window

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[*]There should be only one tech_point set to a team (meaning one alien only and one marine only) I think this is the reason the map doesn't reset</div>

tech points were also hidden

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[*]You have two power_points in one location entity, I probably will not work. Haven't tested it, but I guess it would produce some kind of conflict...</div>

It works fine. no conflicts right now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[*]Siege map? :P

Maybe have a look at <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Ns2_sample" target="_blank">ns2_sample</a> to see how things work</div>

Thanks for all, I tested it yours too. Can you put your map here as shown below ? I can do it too but its own authors would be better

<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=112124" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=112124</a>

yimmasabi · January 2011

Updated For The Build 161 ! Enjoy It ! (13.01.2011)

FuzionMonkey · January 2011

Good work. Any chance of a version that has a more traditional layout, to allow for better gameplay testing?

Kouji_San · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yimmasabi @ Jan 13 2011, 10:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1823930"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Updated For The Build 161 ! Enjoy It ! (13.01.2011)</div>
Pretty odd though, the old build of ns2_sample (build160_01) is fully compatible with 161...

SN.Wolf · January 2011

I'm thinking cross compatible because there where no changes to models,textures or entities.

yimmasabi · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FuzionMonkey @ Jan 13 2011, 11:02 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1823932"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Good work. Any chance of a version that has a more traditional layout, to allow for better gameplay testing?</div>

This will be a performance map and will be less upgrades because of it is a performance map. And we didnt play in this map with 16vs16.
So no traditional version of this map. But there is my another map (ns2_thedron) still working (it is version 131 now) on it, I need some Spark Editor upgrades and waiting for it.

Btw version history of ns2_basic is added on the top .

Thaldarin · January 2011

What kind of Spark editor upgrades were you looking for?

yimmasabi · January 2011

Most of them are listed here and also I agree some of your new additions too.

<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=111608" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=111608</a>

Normaly mostly I finished this playable map except vents. But there are less trims and some triangulation bugs because of a lot of small polygons in large faces, and also, 3 long halls waiting to remake them.

My real problem is there are some rooms rotated 30 or 60 degres with the ref. of. global X,Y,Z. So It is really hard to trim or make changes on those walls.
I really dont know how you trim, but I really sux. Facing rectangles is also dificult for me. Sometime I have to swap each of them. Line tool and welding need to be improved.

In example try this in this ns2_basic map, select all and rotate everything 30 degres, now try to move walls, objects, try to add vents etc. It is realy hard to position them correctly.

Thaldarin · January 2011

As in props and faces selected together don't match up? I think that's going to be an always their problem as the modeler defines global position of 0 and XYZ axis. Just takes a little more time but like you said, with practice, you'll get there.

hookeyed · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yimmasabi @ Jan 14 2011, 12:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1824228"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>My real problem is there are some rooms rotated 30 or 60 degres with the ref. of. global X,Y,Z. So It is really hard to trim or make changes on those walls.
I really dont know how you trim, but I really sux. Facing rectangles is also dificult for me. Sometime I have to swap each of them. Line tool and welding need to be improved.

In example try this in this ns2_basic map, select all and rotate everything 30 degres, now try to move walls, objects, try to add vents etc. It is realy hard to position them correctly.</div>
the extrude tool is probably your best bet. sometimes it's better to make a wall with the normal angles and then rotate it to fit.

Thaldarin · January 2011

The problem with the extrude tool is everything is automatically welded. I only ever use the face tool to create a face, if I need more than 4 sides I then shape it with the line tool.

yimmasabi · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hookeyed @ Jan 14 2011, 10:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1824294"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>the extrude tool is probably your best bet. sometimes it's better to make a wall with the normal angles and then rotate it to fit.</div>

Yess, extrude is good. That is the only thing working on rotated walls.

And how do you rename locations it sux too. Cuz it uses short-cut keys while typing location name. So what am i do, open notepad, type name of location, select all, cut, go to location name edit box, paste there, enter to confirm. Roflll !

I think UWE is using a better Spark Editor. In example in the last maps u can see meshes in hives, probably they used a mesh tool which is not exist yet !
<img src="http://www.yyoru.com/ns2/meshs.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Kouji_San · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yimmasabi @ Jan 17 2011, 03:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1825002"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>And how do you rename locations it sux too. Cuz it uses short-cut keys while typing location name. So what am i do, open notepad, type name of location, select all, cut, go to location name edit box, paste there, enter to confirm. Roflll !

I think UWE is using a better Spark Editor. In example in the last maps u can see meshes in hives, probably they used a mesh tool which is not exist yet !</div>
Indeed, notepad rules!

Also

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Jan 13 2011, 11:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1824153"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>He used the none public displacement tool, I guess...</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Max @ Jan 15 2011, 04:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1824537"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Jan 14 2011, 04:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1824229"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>
Pfsha, if you wannah do it the hard way when they hog all the cool tools :P</div>

That's actually supposed to be in the public build, I'll have to check on that.
</div>

So says the Max!

ns2_basic

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