Rate that server!

MahmuttiMahmutti Join Date: 2010-05-25 Member: 71854Members
edited January 2011 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Ratings for NS2 servers</div>I thought we should be able to rate servers somehow so players can easily tell the good servers from the bad ones. So I made this thread where you can rate servers on a scale of 1 to 5 and I will use my incredibly complicated system (thanks AJPST) to calculate the average rating for each server. Also, please specify the location of the server so players can find the best servers on their own area. It would also make my job a lot easier if you would use the full name of the server. I will try to update the OP at least once per day for now. Feel free to post suggestions on how to improve the servers (or this thread) as well. <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=112536&view=findpost&p=1827569" target="_blank">Camron's post</a> with additional server info.

Example:

EU:
ArmoryChamber.net #1, rating 3 (I used to play there all the time but lately there have been some issues)

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Ratings (Server Name (IP) | Max slots | Average Rating)
EU:
Team #156 DEDI b.162 (188.40.126.85:27020) | 8 slots | <b>5</b>
ArmoryChamber.net #2 (188.40.104.242:27030) | 14 slots | <b>4</b>
ArmoryChamber.net #1 (188.40.104.240:27020) | 10 slots | <b>3,5</b>

USA:

Oceania:
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  • AJPSTAJPST Join Date: 2011-01-12 Member: 77159Members
    edited January 2011
    EU:
    ArmoryChamber.net #1, rating 4
    ArmoryChamber.net #2, rating 4

    E1 (26.1.):
    EU
    Team #156 DEDI b.162, rating 5
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  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Add build numbers! Or do you plan to make a new thread/wipe the numbers every patch?
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  • MahmuttiMahmutti Join Date: 2010-05-25 Member: 71854Members
    edited January 2011
    I'm not quite sure how I will handle that, if I wipe the numbers with every new build, people will have to re-vote every 2 weeks or so.. I guess people could just change their ratings later if they change their mind (they'd have to say what their previous rating was though so I can change it).

    Perhaps this thread wasn't such a great idea, only 1 person rating so far and that's only because I told him to =D
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Give it some time.
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  • CamronCamron Join Date: 2011-01-06 Member: 76356Members
    Since the scoreboard doesn't display the server name (like in other games), I usually forget which server I am playing in. Also since there's no region info for the server (aside from it rarely being in the title), it's hard to tell if the server is just laggy, or if it's just really far. Sometimes I play in "Aus RADAGAST SUCKS" which I believe is an Australian server. My ping is high(~220) because I'm US-East but the game runs much smoother for me in that server. I usually see more hitches/game freezing when playing in US-East or other US servers than when playing in that Aus one.

    The Lunixmonster #2 - Build 162 (10 slots) : 68.232.181.110:27015
    NS2 Server (10 slots) : 108.0.134.106:27015
    Suomi servu FI (12 slots) : 84.249.253.9:27015
    GameArena NS2 #02 [Fast CPU] (12 slots) : 203.46.105.13:27015
    ArmoryChamber.net #1 (10 slots) : 188.40.104.240:27020
    Team #156 DEDI b.162 (8 slots) : 188.40.126.85:27020
    [C.A.P] NS2 Beta Server! (10 slots) : 216.66.69.83:27015
    www.exit1.at :: no escape. no way out. (10 slots) : 178.63.0.100:27015
    [IAM-Clan.com] The Gorges Hideout (8 slots) : 69.65.63.251:27015
    GameArena NS2 #01 [Fast CPU] (16 slots) : 203.46.105.17:27015
    [IAM-clan.com] The School of Darwinism (10 slots) : 69.65.63.250:27017
    Build 162 | TWMF Corporation NS2 | Dedicated Linux/Wine (16 slots) : 64.62.244.42:27015
    ArmoryChamber.net #2 (14 slots) : 188.40.104.242:27030
    NS2UK.com | Server 2 (10 slots) : 213.229.106.212:27045
    Skulkrush.com | Public Server (10 slots) : 89.255.130.166:27015
    3AMGamers Dedicated bv162 (14 slots) : 216.246.49.180:27015
    NS2 Dedicated Server (12 slots) : 205.170.190.122:27015
    UK | ClanPlanet #1 | B162 (16 slots) : 193.200.158.26:27015
    UnknownWorlds Dev Server #1 (16 slots) : 74.86.151.156:27015
    HostedGameServers.comtestserver (8 slots) : 208.83.233.90:27015
    Lerk Off! (TX) (10 slots) : 74.124.31.217:27015
    NPA NS2 Passworded bv:162 (16 slots) : 216.246.49.179:27025
    AusNS2.com - Natural Selection 2 Server (8 slots) : 111.223.237.100:27015
    ns2.leach.yi.org:1028 Caligo's Server (12 slots) : 71.163.7.188:27015
    NS2UK.com | Server 3 (10 slots) : 213.229.106.212:27075
    NS2UK.com | Server 1 (10 slots) : 213.229.106.212:27015
    FakkelBrigade's Selection b162 (10 slots) : 83.83.15.186:27015
    [SEK2000]Testsystem (14 slots) : 213.23.199.131:27015
    KnX NS2 (12 slots) : 99.12.219.62:27015
    GER | Weaselserver (12 slots) : 84.200.0.56:27015
    ns2.leach.yi.org:1028 Caligo's Server (12 slots) : 72.205.47.70:27015
    UK | ClanPlanet #2 | B162 (16 slots) : 193.200.158.27:27015
    thefragile NS2 (4 slots) : 88.195.82.37:27015


    Here's the IP country lookup (may be inaccurate)

    68.232.181.110 US UNITED STATES NEW JERSEY SAYREVILLE CHOOPA LLC
    108.0.134.106 US UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES VERIZON ONLINE LLC
    84.249.253.9 FI FINLAND LAPLAND KEMI BROADBAND ACCESS POOL
    203.46.105.13 AU AUSTRALIA VICTORIA MORNINGTON TELSTRA INTERNET
    188.40.104.240 DE GERMANY - - HETZNER ONLINE AG
    188.40.126.85 DE GERMANY - - HETZNER ONLINE AG
    216.66.69.83 US UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MILPITAS EGIHOSTING
    178.63.0.100 DE GERMANY - - HETZNER ONLINE AG
    69.65.63.251 US UNITED STATES ILLINOIS ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ECOMDEVEL LLC
    203.46.105.17 AU AUSTRALIA VICTORIA MORNINGTON TELSTRA INTERNET
    69.65.63.250 US UNITED STATES ILLINOIS ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ECOMDEVEL LLC
    64.62.244.42 US UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA RANCHO CORDOVA LAFRANCE INTERNET SERVICES (FORMERLY NEW MEDIA)
    188.40.104.242 DE GERMANY - - HETZNER ONLINE AG
    213.229.106.212 UK UNITED KINGDOM - - CANONICAL RANGE FOR BS2-HP1-RI
    89.255.130.166 UK UNITED KINGDOM - - OOSHA LTD
    216.246.49.180 US UNITED STATES NEW YORK BUFFALO COLOCROSSING
    205.170.190.122 US UNITED STATES MISSOURI ST. LOUIS QWEST COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY LLC
    193.200.158.26 UK UNITED KINGDOM - - CLANPLANETSERVERS.COM - NETWORKS SERVERS AND MORE
    74.86.151.156 US UNITED STATES TEXAS DALLAS SOFTLAYER TECHNOLOGIES INC

    IP lookup websites have limits so here's a badly formated list of the missing ips from above.
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    208.83.233.90 UNITED STATES PENNSYLVANIA LANGHORNE 40.174554
    -74.922666 19047 -05:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL GROKTHIS.NET GROKTHIS.NET
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    1 215/267 USPA0864 - LANGHORNE
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    74.124.31.217 UNITED STATES TEXAS CELINA 33.324559
    -96.784442 75009 -06:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL EBL GLOBAL NETWORKS INC COREXCHANGE.COM
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    1 214/469/972 USTX0228 - CELINA
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    216.246.49.179 UNITED STATES NEW YORK BUFFALO 42.886447
    -78.878369 14201 -05:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    COMP COLOCROSSING VELOCITY-SERVERS.NET
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    1 716 USNY0181 - BUFFALO
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    111.223.237.100 AUSTRALIA - - -35.28204
    149.12858 - +10:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL MICRON21 MELBOURNE DATACENTRE CO-LOCATION DEDICATED SERVERS WEB HOSTING MICRON21.COM
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    61 - ASXX0095 - QUEANBEYAN
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    71.163.7.188 UNITED STATES VIRGINIA BURKE 38.793447
    -77.27165 22009 -05:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL VERIZON ONLINE LLC VERIZON.NET
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    1 703 USVA0110 - BURKE
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    213.229.106.212 UNITED KINGDOM - - 54.166997
    -4.482106 - +00:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    COMP CANONICAL RANGE FOR BS2-HP1-RI AS29550.NET
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    44 - UKXX0233 - ESKMEALS
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    213.229.106.212 UNITED KINGDOM - - 54.166997
    -4.482106 - +00:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    COMP CANONICAL RANGE FOR BS2-HP1-RI AS29550.NET
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    44 - UKXX0233 - ESKMEALS
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    83.83.15.186 NETHERLANDS UTRECHT UTRECHT 52.091262
    5.122748 - +01:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL CASEMA NV CASEMA.NL
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    31 - NLXX0018 - UTRECHT
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    213.23.199.131 GERMANY RHEINLAND-PFALZ MAINZ 49.995123
    8.267426 - +01:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    COMP IBM DEUTSCHLAND GMBH IBM.COM
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    49 - GMXX0080 - MAINZ
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    99.12.219.62 UNITED STATES TEXAS SPRING 30.07994
    -95.41716 77354 -06:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    COMP AT&T INTERNET SERVICES SBC.COM
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    1 281/936 USTX1290 - SPRING
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    310 090/410/560/680 AT&T

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    84.200.0.56 GERMANY - - 52.523405
    13.4114 - +01:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL WWW.GAMESERVER48.DE -
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    49 - GMXX0007 - BERLIN
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    72.205.47.70 UNITED STATES VIRGINIA ANNANDALE 38.83039
    -77.19637 22003 -05:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL COX COMMUNICATIONS COX.COM
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    1 703 USVA0094 - BRISTOW
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    193.200.158.27 UNITED KINGDOM - - 54.166997
    -4.482106 - +00:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL CLANPLANETSERVERS.COM - NETWORKS SERVERS AND MORE CLANPLANETSERVERS.COM
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    44 - UKXX0233 - ESKMEALS
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
    - - -

    IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
    Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
    88.195.82.37 FINLAND SOUTHERN FINLAND HELSINKI 60.169812
    24.93824 - +02:00
    Net Speed ISP Domain
    DSL BROADBAND ACCESS POOL INET.FI
    IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
    358 - FIXX0002 - HELSINKI
    MCC MNC Mobile Brand
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    I think it would actually be pretty easy to modify the server browser to show the country location. The hard part is finding an accurate and free geo-ip website/service. I don't think just checking an IP's range is accurate enough but I haven't really looked into it. Maybe we could just make a wiki page of servers so the server ops can list the correct location, as well as some other info (like rules or any server mods).
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  • MahmuttiMahmutti Join Date: 2010-05-25 Member: 71854Members
    Thanks for the list! Do you think I should add all of those servers to the OP or just add new servers when they get rated (to keep it clean)? Going to add the IP and max slots of each server to the list.
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  • CamronCamron Join Date: 2011-01-06 Member: 76356Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1827580:date=Jan 26 2011, 05:11 PM:name=Mahmutti)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mahmutti @ Jan 26 2011, 05:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827580"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks for the list! Do you think I should add all of those servers to the OP or just add new servers when they get rated (to keep it clean)? Going to add the IP and max slots of each server to the list.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only when they get rated.
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  • NikkelNikkel Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9781Members
    NS2UK Server 1 - 5v5 - tick rate above 20 and no lag issues - I am based in the UK.

    also a game on the clanplanet server but that had 12 players, ping was okay but tick rate below 10
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  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    So this is to show what servers perform better? I would say any server other than a listen server performs to the current performance of the server build that is released.

    What i am trying to ask here is....can you really rate servers when the software is still buggy as most systems will handle it differently returning inaccurate information to witch the ratings will be based on?

    I just don't understand. Should we not look for lower pings and look for servers with more muscle and try to find a happy medium within those results?

    Not complaining here, just looking for clarification as my brain is having troubles processing how the results at this point in the development make a difference in what server gets better ratings as client side problems will effect the result also.



    "arghhhh"....*must drink.....more....beer...."
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  • FroggerFrogger Join Date: 2010-07-31 Member: 73377Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1827537:date=Jan 26 2011, 08:49 PM:name=Mahmutti)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mahmutti @ Jan 26 2011, 08:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827537"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not quite sure how I will handle that, if I wipe the numbers with every new build, people will have to re-vote every 2 weeks or so.. I guess people could just change their ratings later if they change their mind (they'd have to say what their previous rating was though so I can change it).

    Perhaps this thread wasn't such a great idea, only 1 person rating so far and that's only because I told him to =D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Easy, ask people to say what build it was they were playing (as well as what country they are in and which country the server is in).

    If someone plays on a server on build 160 for rough example and it lags to hell and then later on down the line 162 they try it again and its much improved then when they submit a score on it then it'd be something like build 160 - laggy, build 162 - smooth, etc you could probably plot some rough graphs or something to show if a server is consistently poor or something.

    Personally i can't rate as i don't really pay attention to server names, just which have players on atm if it lags bad then i just look for another, when things are more stable it'll be easier to rate.
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  • kingmobkingmob Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3650Members, Constellation
    Wassup with "The Lunixmonster"
    I used to play there all the time and lately (last 3 builds maybe Builds 160-162)

    I just never can connect.

    anyone else have this happen?
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  • CamronCamron Join Date: 2011-01-06 Member: 76356Members
    I went ahead and made a 'server list' wiki page like I mentioned above. That page will not have any ratings though.

    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=112545" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=112545</a>
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Can't we develop some kind of method for people to send in ratings for a server and aggregate the scores on the Wiki?
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1827690:date=Jan 26 2011, 09:49 PM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Jan 26 2011, 09:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827690"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can't we develop some kind of method for people to send in ratings for a server and aggregate the scores on the Wiki?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This.

    Also, its hard to give servers anything but an arbitrary rating right now. Pretty much every server I play on is less laggy, but less fun with fewer people and more laggy, but more fun with more people. Without any custom plugins or other goodies distinguishing them, I can only really give servers I can connect to or play on regularly a 5.
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1827617:date=Jan 26 2011, 07:52 PM:name=kingmob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingmob @ Jan 26 2011, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827617"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wassup with "The Lunixmonster"
    I used to play there all the time and lately (last 3 builds maybe Builds 160-162)

    I just never can connect.

    anyone else have this happen?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's probably due to the memory leak.. the server gets restarted every morning at 8AM, you should be able to connect after that happens. If not, shoot me a PM about it.
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  • twilitebluetwiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2011
    Whatever happened to "aus radagast sucks"? Endar? Are you there?

    [Edit] I just googled, seems like the server changed its name to "Australia-Pure NS2", which still has the best ping to me. :D
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  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1828309:date=Jan 29 2011, 01:53 PM:name=twiliteblue)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (twiliteblue @ Jan 29 2011, 01:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1828309"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Whatever happened to "aus radagast sucks"? Endar? Are you there?

    [Edit] I just googled, seems like the server changed its name to "Australia-Pure NS2", which still has the best ping to me. :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Just renamed the server after receiving C&D's from Radagast, nothing else changed.
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    Wtf is Radagast?
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  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    Australian NS1 player
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  • CamronCamron Join Date: 2011-01-06 Member: 76356Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1828546:date=Jan 29 2011, 07:30 PM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Jan 29 2011, 07:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1828546"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just renamed the server after receiving C&D's from Radagast, nothing else changed.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    <!--quoteo(post=1828598:date=Jan 30 2011, 04:11 AM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Jan 30 2011, 04:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1828598"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Australian NS1 player<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Radagast is a fictional character from LOTR. That guy can't stop you from using that name in your server title.
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