twilitebluebug stalkerJoin Date: 2003-02-04Member: 13116Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited January 2011
Old Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz 3GB DDR2 800 1GB HD 5750
Average FPS went up from 20 to 30 on rockdown, and up from 15 to 25 on Tram. Bloody good patch for me. ^^
I just bought a Pentium E6500 wolfdale chip for my old Asus P5B-E mobo, and it fails to POST... The fan cycles up and down. I put my old CPU back, and it works. Can anyone help?
Maybe I need to upgrade my BIOS? I tried googling about my mobo's compatibility, and couldn't find any cases. The best scenario is probably it's just a faulty chip.
[Edit]New CPU Pentium E6500 2.9 GHz
FPS went up to 30-60 on Tram(!!!) on an empty server.
Asus should have EZ-flash on that mobo (i have on p5n-e), so just get the newest bios from the asus site - MAKE SURE IT'S THE CORRECT ONE put it on a USB-flash and go into bios and choose it rest is auto
AMD Phenom II X4 955 4 GB RAM nvidia gtx 470 win 7 x64 1920x1080 high
in the com com chair / hive im getting 60 fps with a low of 40 - silky smooth gameplay.
outside the chair Im getting like 40-30 with a low of 25-20 depending on whats going on the screen. the game is very smooth in the com chair (aside from some glitches like the text for the items sometimes overlaps over the cost for that item, depending on the lenth of the sentence next to it.) cant wait for the game to finally get smooth enough where skulks and marines dont warp around like crazy.
I'm pretty sure I saw an improvement but I don't have good numbers saved. I played tram last night with about 50-60 FPS (last time before that must have had something like 30-40 FPS).
Running at 1600x900
Win7 Pro (64bit) Intel i7 920 @ 2.67 GHz Ram: 12.0 GB Video Card: Sapphire Radeon Vapor-X HD 4890 1GB Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
I will edit the post with better number later on. Posibly again with coming builds. We could all try to do this.
<!--quoteo(post=1827662:date=Jan 26 2011, 11:45 PM:name=cron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cron @ Jan 26 2011, 11:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827662"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Resolution: 1920*1080 No FSAA or AF (application controlled in the driver) Visual Detail: High
Frames: 9958 Time (ms): 300000 Min FPS: 6 Max FPS: 50 Avg FPS: 33.193
GPU: GeForce 8800GTS CPU: Q6600 RAM: 4GiB OS: Windows 7
This was in Rockdown, it felt okay to me, not significantly better than in B161. 33 FPS would be okay, not good but playable, if there weren't the frame spikes. It seems there is not much input lag, which is good, yet the drops below 25 FPS are very noticeable, they usually occur when running for a while from room to room.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what's the vram on your card? if it's less than 1gb then being on high detail settings is going to make your fps choppy and drop often.
Quality / Res: on high / 2560x1600 Version: Beta 162 System: OS = Windows 7 64bit CPU = intel i7 930 @ 3.52GHz GPU = amd hd6950 2gb RAM = 6GB @1520 MHz DDR3 map = rockdown
Fps in 162: Avg: 50.779 - Min: 38 - Max: 63
Fps in 160: Avg: 44.908 - Min: 23 - Max: 92
better min. fps, but still have slow downs in some areas. i have a second amd6950, but with crossfire got negative impact
<!--quoteo(post=1827486:date=Jan 26 2011, 03:38 PM:name=JaMrulezass)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JaMrulezass @ Jan 26 2011, 03:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827486"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i7 930 @ 2.8Ghz 5870 CF 4GB DDR 3 1600 ---------------------------------------- Rough estimate of about 50% increase, from about 30 fps to about 45-50 Idle server @ about 70fps<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1827876:date=Jan 27 2011, 03:35 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Jan 27 2011, 03:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827876"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what's the vram on your card? if it's less than 1gb then being on high detail settings is going to make your fps choppy and drop often.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
OS Windows 7 64bit CPU intel i7 960 GPU Sapphire ati hd5970 2g RAM 6g Resolution 1680x1050 On high On tram i get a lowest of 30 and a high of 81(looking out of window) But i mostly get around 40-65 when running around >< Still chugs abit when running into glitches.
Ns2 seems to be the only game i can hear it working away In 161 my average fps was about 35-40 so big increase D:
Posted yesterday by Max in topic: The OFFICIAL Twitter Discussion Thread:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't know of any significant stability issues (i.e. game crashing, etc.) so I'm not working on that. I'm also not working on any performance aspects at the moment<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I really hope that this was just a joke or only the work schedule for this week. The performance definitely needs urgent and intens adressing! The NetCode is still the biggest performance problem, which I see in this game so far.
Notes: b162 is much more "jittery" it hits the troth a lot more often and gives an overall less playable experience. Also, the peak fps seems lower, probably a side effect of the jittering. In comparison, b161 was more playable. My impression of this build is, as was with b161, still unplayable; perhaps more-so with b162. Remains perplexed on how NS2HD manages to sustain a playable, in-fact, near immaculate FPS <i>and</i> record the game at the same time.
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I upgraded my graphics card this week, and it made a huge difference.
Win 7 64 bit i5 2500k @ 4.2 GHz GTX 560 Ti (from a 9800 GTX)
FPS now 40-70 on tram, but server lag is the biggest factor now. But I've gone from having 1/1 K/D ratios to about 12/1 with the upgrade. I was even called a hacker in one game! haha
<!--quoteo(post=1827695:date=Jan 27 2011, 07:08 AM:name=ironhorse)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ironhorse @ Jan 27 2011, 07:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827695"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->first, to get an idea of where your card stands against others: <a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=GeForce+8800+GTS" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lo...eForce+8800+GTS</a>
then, to shop for a new one: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=48&name=Desktop-Graphics-Video-Cards" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.as...ics-Video-Cards</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1827876:date=Jan 27 2011, 10:35 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Jan 27 2011, 10:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827876"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what's the vram on your card? if it's less than 1gb then being on high detail settings is going to make your fps choppy and drop often.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Forget that, I'm an idiot, I have a GTX 260. When writing that post I turned around to look for the packaging of my graphics card (I have a wall covered with hardware packaging) and looked at the wrong package, wasn't really focused.
Practically no diffence in rockdown. Tram however is completely different, I used to have under 10 fps all the time, now it's nearly playable at ~20 fps.
I've been doing consistent benchmarks with FRAPS for every build. Since there is no demo feature, I've had to settle for clean runs. (ie. no extra buildings or players) This offers a decent look at a best case scenario performance level. Unfortunately, I started using Rockdown before I realized I should probably use Tram. (which I'll be adding later) The other caveat is that I only tested once per build using my two runs.
Athlon II X4 640 3.0Ghz 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM Geforce GTX 460 768MB OC Windows 7 x64 1680x1050 @ high settings, no AA/AF
TEST #1: Marine walks from spawn to alien spawn. (45s) TEST #2: Skulk runs from spawn to marine spawn and then back around the opposite side to spawn again. (60s)
Note that while I didn't get any noticeable improvement in any of the other builds, I got a good 4.5 - 7 FPS improvement in build 162. In fact, take a look at this graph for test #2:
Build 162 is purple, showing a convincing base performance improvement over all the other builds.
I still think performance has a long ways to go. I'd like to see averages get above 60FPS for recent computers as well as server ticks maintaining 30/s. I think that's when we'll really start seeing what's what.
Unfortunatly at this moment I can only speak about what PC specs result in an unplayable game.
Current Computer:
Windows 7 x64 Pro Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz (stock) 4Gbs DDR2 800Mhz Dual Channel RAM AMD Radeon HD 3450 - 256kbs (OC'd) <----- I am Laughing right now about the OC'd part! Standard Platter Drives
I have purchased a new NVidia GTX 560 Ti card to hopefully solve my issue with unplayability.
Updates as soon as I get my new Video card.... Crossing Fingers!!!!
<!--quoteo(post=1830126:date=Feb 6 2011, 08:51 PM:name=Furry_Gizzard)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Furry_Gizzard @ Feb 6 2011, 08:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830126"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->AMD Radeon HD 3450 - 256kbs (OC'd) <----- I am Laughing right now about the OC'd part!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm laughing at the kbs measurement...
<!--quoteo(post=1830095:date=Feb 6 2011, 10:34 PM:name=PseudoKnight)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PseudoKnight @ Feb 6 2011, 10:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1830095"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I Unfortunately, I started using Rockdown before I realized I should probably use Tram. (which I'll be adding later)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah. It helps to use a level which is much more detailed and intended for NS2 play with significantly more time spent on it :D
Good to see some sort of improvement is going on though, even if it is only on a smaller scale in Rockdown.
Will be looking forward to seeing how upcoming builds compare for you!
I went from a shoddy fps averaging 17-20 in combat in medium setting, r_shadows false to 40-50 fps in high - but - now I have sick rubber banding on 40 ping servers. The game is more or less unplayable, I'll have to do testing with medium when I get home from school
AMD Phenom II x6 2.8Gz ATI HD5770 1GHz 4GB RAM - OCZ Now I can play with 1680x1050 with High Quality and no problems. I noted a big difference in the FPS. The game it's more smoother.
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I wanted to update this thread with some benchmarking I did between 162 and 164. I basically did PsuedoKnights tests on tram.
Intel i5 2500k (OC'd 4.3GHz) 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM AMD HD 6950 Windows 7 x64 1920x1080 @ high settings, no AA/AF
TEST #1: Marine walks from spawn to alien spawn and then back through the tram tunnel. (60s) TEST #2: Skulk runs from spawn to marine spawn and then back through the tram tunnel. (60s)
In 163, I basically lost half of what was gained in 162. It's not too surprising since decals were added. I'm still ~3FPS (~7%) over 161 and prior builds, though.
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Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz
3GB DDR2 800
1GB HD 5750
Average FPS went up from 20 to 30 on rockdown, and up from 15 to 25 on Tram. Bloody good patch for me. ^^
I just bought a Pentium E6500 wolfdale chip for my old Asus P5B-E mobo, and it fails to POST... The fan cycles up and down. I put my old CPU back, and it works. Can anyone help?
Maybe I need to upgrade my BIOS? I tried googling about my mobo's compatibility, and couldn't find any cases. The best scenario is probably it's just a faulty chip.
[Edit]New CPU
Pentium E6500 2.9 GHz
FPS went up to 30-60 on Tram(!!!) on an empty server.
so just get the newest bios from the asus site - MAKE SURE IT'S THE CORRECT ONE
put it on a USB-flash and go into bios and choose it
rest is auto
4 GB RAM
nvidia gtx 470
win 7 x64
1920x1080 high
in the com com chair / hive im getting 60 fps with a low of 40 - silky smooth gameplay.
outside the chair Im getting like 40-30 with a low of 25-20 depending on whats going on the screen. the game is very smooth in the com chair (aside from some glitches like the text for the items sometimes overlaps over the cost for that item, depending on the lenth of the sentence next to it.) cant wait for the game to finally get smooth enough where skulks and marines dont warp around like crazy.
Running at 1600x900
Win7 Pro (64bit)
Intel i7 920 @ 2.67 GHz
Ram: 12.0 GB
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon Vapor-X HD 4890 1GB
Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
I will edit the post with better number later on. Posibly again with coming builds. We could all try to do this.
Visual Detail: High
Frames: 9958
Time (ms): 300000
Min FPS: 6
Max FPS: 50
Avg FPS: 33.193
GPU: GeForce 8800GTS
CPU: Q6600
RAM: 4GiB
OS: Windows 7
This was in Rockdown, it felt okay to me, not significantly better than in B161.
33 FPS would be okay, not good but playable, if there weren't the frame spikes. It seems there is not much input lag, which is good, yet the drops below 25 FPS are very noticeable, they usually occur when running for a while from room to room.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what's the vram on your card? if it's less than 1gb then being on high detail settings is going to make your fps choppy and drop often.
Version: Beta 162
System:
OS = Windows 7 64bit
CPU = intel i7 930 @ 3.52GHz
GPU = amd hd6950 2gb
RAM = 6GB @1520 MHz DDR3
map = rockdown
Fps in 162: Avg: 50.779 - Min: 38 - Max: 63
Fps in 160: Avg: 44.908 - Min: 23 - Max: 92
better min. fps, but still have slow downs in some areas.
i have a second amd6950, but with crossfire got negative impact
<!--quoteo(post=1827486:date=Jan 26 2011, 03:38 PM:name=JaMrulezass)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JaMrulezass @ Jan 26 2011, 03:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827486"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i7 930 @ 2.8Ghz
5870 CF
4GB DDR 3 1600
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Rough estimate of about 50% increase, from about 30 fps to about 45-50
Idle server @ about 70fps<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
try with cf off
i had the gts, it only has 320 mb of ram on it D:
CPU intel i7 960
GPU Sapphire ati hd5970 2g
RAM 6g
Resolution 1680x1050
On high
On tram i get a lowest of 30 and a high of 81(looking out of window)
But i mostly get around 40-65 when running around ><
Still chugs abit when running into glitches.
Ns2 seems to be the only game i can hear it working away
In 161 my average fps was about 35-40 so big increase D:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't know of any significant stability issues (i.e. game crashing, etc.) so I'm not working on that. I'm also not working on any performance aspects at the moment<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I really hope that this was just a joke or only the work schedule for this week. The performance definitely needs urgent and intens adressing! The NetCode is still the biggest performance problem, which I see in this game so far.
GPU: ATi Radeon HD 4890
RAM: 4GB DDR3 RipJaw Gaming RAM
MoBo: Gigabyte P55M-UD2
Res: 1280x1024 @75Hz
b162 FPS: 20fps avg | 40fps peak | 3fps troth
b161 FPS: 20fps avg | 50fps peak | 7fps troth
Notes: b162 is much more "jittery" it hits the troth a lot more often and gives an overall less playable experience. Also, the peak fps seems lower, probably a side effect of the jittering. In comparison, b161 was more playable. My impression of this build is, as was with b161, still unplayable; perhaps more-so with b162. Remains perplexed on how NS2HD manages to sustain a playable, in-fact, near immaculate FPS <i>and</i> record the game at the same time.
Win 7 64 bit
i5 2500k @ 4.2 GHz
GTX 560 Ti (from a 9800 GTX)
FPS now 40-70 on tram, but server lag is the biggest factor now.
But I've gone from having 1/1 K/D ratios to about 12/1 with the upgrade. I was even called a hacker in one game! haha
i7 920 D0 @ 4.0 GHz
GTX 580 SC
Driver 266.58
Forced Anti-Aliasing (16xQ)
Forced Anisoptric Filtering 16x
1920x1080
-
Frames are better, I don't have any particular numbers but the game is smoother depending on the server.
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=GeForce+8800+GTS" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lo...eForce+8800+GTS</a>
then, to shop for a new one:
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=48&name=Desktop-Graphics-Video-Cards" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.as...ics-Video-Cards</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1827876:date=Jan 27 2011, 10:35 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Jan 27 2011, 10:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1827876"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what's the vram on your card? if it's less than 1gb then being on high detail settings is going to make your fps choppy and drop often.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Forget that, I'm an idiot, I have a GTX 260. When writing that post I turned around to look for the packaging of my graphics card (I have a wall covered with hardware packaging) and looked at the wrong package, wasn't really focused.
The VRAM on the GTX260 is 896MiB.
4890
win7 64
30 - 40 fps, huge stuttering, unable to hit anything. GG
EDIT: Reducing graphics quality (including turning off of shadows) does not increase fps. GG<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same thing.
1055t @ 3.4
4850
win 7 x64
But 162 runs a bit smoother then older, i think it gave about +5-7 to averave fps.
2GB ram
Sapphire 2GB HD 6950
1024 x 768 High settings, 15-30 fps
1024 x 768 Ridiculously awful setting, 15-30 fps...
Something is not right here, graphics settings are not increasing fps at all...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Same but 8800 GT and 1680x1050 medium (high results in unsharp texts and a lot of errors), around 15-30 fps, mostly 25 Fps
5970 overclocked
6gb 1600 dominators
1920x1080
Feels a lot smoother however still a lot of room for improvement. I still have to turn shadows off to stop them flickering constantly (xfire problem?)
4870 1 gb
4gb ram
Practically no diffence in rockdown. Tram however is completely different, I used to have under 10 fps all the time, now it's nearly playable at ~20 fps.
Athlon II X4 640 3.0Ghz
4GB DDR3 1600 RAM
Geforce GTX 460 768MB OC
Windows 7 x64
1680x1050 @ high settings, no AA/AF
TEST #1: Marine walks from spawn to alien spawn. (45s)
TEST #2: Skulk runs from spawn to marine spawn and then back around the opposite side to spawn again. (60s)
BUILD / AVG FPS #1 / AVG FPS #2
155 / 40.4 / 44.4
156 / 38.7 / 44.2
158 / 39.1 / 42.8
159 / 38.2 / 42.8
160 / 39.4 / 45.3
161 / 40.8 / 45.4
162 / 45.4 / 52.4
Note that while I didn't get any noticeable improvement in any of the other builds, I got a good 4.5 - 7 FPS improvement in build 162. In fact, take a look at this graph for test #2:
<img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9856661/ns2-fps-162.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Build 162 is purple, showing a convincing base performance improvement over all the other builds.
I still think performance has a long ways to go. I'd like to see averages get above 60FPS for recent computers as well as server ticks maintaining 30/s. I think that's when we'll really start seeing what's what.
Current Computer:
Windows 7 x64 Pro
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz (stock)
4Gbs DDR2 800Mhz Dual Channel RAM
AMD Radeon HD 3450 - 256kbs (OC'd) <----- I am Laughing right now about the OC'd part!
Standard Platter Drives
I have purchased a new NVidia GTX 560 Ti card to hopefully solve my issue with unplayability.
Updates as soon as I get my new Video card.... Crossing Fingers!!!!
I'm laughing at the kbs measurement...
<img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5423146061_a4ee5b8680_o.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Yeah. It helps to use a level which is much more detailed and intended for NS2 play with significantly more time spent on it :D
Good to see some sort of improvement is going on though, even if it is only on a smaller scale in Rockdown.
Will be looking forward to seeing how upcoming builds compare for you!
2gb ram
8800gt -> radeon 5850
1680x1050
I went from a shoddy fps averaging 17-20 in combat in medium setting, r_shadows false to 40-50 fps in high - but - now I have sick rubber banding on 40 ping servers. The game is more or less unplayable, I'll have to do testing with medium when I get home from school
ATI HD5770 1GHz
4GB RAM - OCZ
Now I can play with 1680x1050 with High Quality and no problems.
I noted a big difference in the FPS. The game it's more smoother.
EDIT:
Windows 7 Pro x64
Intel i5 2500k (OC'd 4.3GHz)
4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
AMD HD 6950
Windows 7 x64
1920x1080 @ high settings, no AA/AF
TEST #1: Marine walks from spawn to alien spawn and then back through the tram tunnel. (60s)
TEST #2: Skulk runs from spawn to marine spawn and then back through the tram tunnel. (60s)
BUILD / AVG FPS #1 / AVG FPS #2
162 / 55 / 58
164 / 50 / 51
From what I can tell, performance has dropped about 5 fps from B162.
6gb ddr3
5970 @ 825/1080
No increase in fps. 20-40, 20 being in a room with DI and fire etc happening......unplayable.
1680x1050 max settings