Did I come back at the wrong time?

DarkhandDarkhand Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3012Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Game still very laggy?</div>Hey All,

I took a break from NS while the lag issues got sorted out, the I had some things going on in my personal life. Last night I logged in to play and check out the game since I've been faithfully keeping up with the patch notes and to my dismay the game was basically unplayable on the two servers I tried. One wouldn't leave the lobby and the other was so laggy it was like when I first started playing.

Was some major bug released I didn't hear about?

Thanks :)

Comments

  • BalmarkBalmark Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3476Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Hopefully there'll be a quick week or so effort put into performance even just make beta a bit nicer to muck about with ;)

    possibly a 'absolute minimal' setting.. ?

    I know tho, once a little time is put into the performance, a few 'quick wins' will be found that would improve performance..

    Really hoping a mini performance cycle is done soon
  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members
    I dont know if it really is like this, but to me it feels like this build is laggier than the one before. Especially in alien vision mode in tram.
    There is a vent that went to 9 on the client thing in net_stats when I used alien vision, felt like 3 fps or something. I added an annotation, but dunno exactly how effective that system is, will the mapper be able to see it, or is it something more of a local thing that only exist on server I put it in?

    It is not as laggy as you described it tho (except for certain spots in alien vision), so maybe its your hardware or something? Or perhaps you just joined servers with bad hardware?
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1837652:date=Mar 18 2011, 12:57 AM:name=Balmark)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Balmark @ Mar 18 2011, 12:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1837652"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hopefully there'll be a quick week or so effort put into performance even just make beta a bit nicer to muck about with ;)

    I know tho, once a little time is put into the performance, a few 'quick wins' will be found that would improve performance..

    Really hoping a mini performance cycle is done soon<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wish this was true, but unfortunately that's not how it works. There are no "quick wins" that are going to improve performance that significantly, just a lot of programming time and effort to address a whole multitude of different optimizations, in many different areas of the game. Its not like we've been putting off the performance issues and working on other stuff, Max has been mainly focused on that for quite a while. One of those big tasks, the optimized LUA binding layer that is listed in the progress list, is what Max has been working on for the past few weeks, and is getting close to having it ready for release. We are hoping that will make a big difference, but again, there are so many variables and no silver bullet with this performance stuff, so its too early to know at this point.

    Don't worry, the game will get there, but it is going to take a lot of hard work, and some more time on Max's end but it still remains a key focus for us.

    --Cory
  • DarkhandDarkhand Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3012Members
    I'm not talking about performance.

    I get a lot of FPS.

    I'm talking about Lag as in One second a guy is standing in one spot, then the next he warps to another, then another, then another. It's like I'm missing packets or getting choke or something.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    That is performance darkhand.
  • DarkhandDarkhand Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3012Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1838046:date=Mar 20 2011, 08:24 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thaldarin @ Mar 20 2011, 08:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838046"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is performance darkhand.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I don't believe so.

    Balmark says "possibly a 'absolute minimal' setting.. ?" - That refers to graphics

    Feha says " Especially in alien vision mode in tram. There is a vent that went to 9 on the client thing in net_stats when I used alien vision, felt like 3 fps or something." - That refers to frames per second.

    I'm getting a solid 40 Frames Per Second, if not more with my graphics card. Despite me getting a good FPS rate I still experience where players will be standing in one spot, and then warp to the next.

    I'm not sure how this would equal "performance" can you please explain this to me? I'm either missing something or everyone else is not understanding exactly what I'm saying.
  • KisleKisle Join Date: 2006-12-25 Member: 59229Members
    I think with performance they just mean the overall playability of the game.
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    <b><u>Server</u></b>-performance. It's in the toilet at the moment.
  • jkflipflopjkflipflop Join Date: 2010-10-13 Member: 74423Members
    edited March 2011
    The networking performance should be your number one focus at the moment. My rig can peg this game at 60FPS constantly. It's the lag that's killing everything right now.
  • tyrael64tyrael64 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70551Members
    edited March 2011
    I had good matches lately.
    if the server where you are, is a good one and was restarted recently, going to work very well.
    I also have a solids 45fps



    i am very happy with the fps
    waiting for server fix
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    If you type net_stats into the console it will bring up relevant server info. Specifically, you want to watch the 'server rate' line. A server rate of >30 is good, 10-29 is playable, <9 is when you start getting serious rubberbanding or other lag. The only solution is to play on servers with really good hardware or with few people.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1838058:date=Mar 20 2011, 08:07 PM:name=Darkhand)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Darkhand @ Mar 20 2011, 08:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838058"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm not sure how this would equal "performance" can you please explain this to me? I'm either missing something or everyone else is not understanding exactly what I'm saying.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If the performance of the server is poor, then you will experience lag and warping, even if your machine is running at a good FPS. Our current focus, at the moment, is on improving server performance to reduce the lag. Once we have that more under control we will shift focus back to client performance, to increase FPS on local machines.

    --Cory
  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1838131:date=Mar 20 2011, 10:23 PM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Mar 20 2011, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838131"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If the performance of the server is poor, then you will experience lag and warping, even if your machine is running at a good FPS. Our current focus, at the moment, is on improving server performance to reduce the lag. Once we have that more under control we will shift focus back to client performance, to increase FPS on local machines.

    --Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    OMG, thank you, this is what I like to hear! The server lag is killing meeee.
  • ArchaicArchaic Join Date: 2008-03-30 Member: 64001Members
    lag literally killing me, i cant see well enough to place shots :(
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Some servers are far better than others. Unfortunately it is a matter of luck whether or not people have actually chosen to play on one of the good servers.
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