FBI Admits Roswell was Extraterrestrial

ByekaByeka Name changed from Freak83Toronto Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14484Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Interesting news for Unknown World fans</div>Yeah, just digging through UFO reports for April and came across this gem. There are multiple sources, I'm just linking this one.

<a href="http://www.dailycognition.com/index.php/2011/04/09/fbi-accidentally-admits-roswell-ufo-incident-was-in-fact-a-ufo.html" target="_blank">http://www.dailycognition.com/index.php/20...fact-a-ufo.html</a>

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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    edited May 2011
    I think the timestamp on the memo is three days early.
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    BOOM


    also this is just FOIA type stuff, it's not really the smoking gun it's made out to be


    besides it's mathematically impossible (even assuming life HAS to be carbon based) for aliens not to exist
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    It's also impossible to build a spaceworthy craft which can be knocked out by terrestrial radar emissions. What with every single thing in space emitting massive amounts of radio waves and other forms of radiation.
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Wow, its actually there too.
    <a href="http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/" target="_blank">http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/</a>
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    maybe it's magic radio ;o
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    If it's been covered up once, it can be covered up twice.
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  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members
    I got a feeling that either someone decided to troll people and forged that thing, or its a arpil fools joke, which maybe was a tad late.

    There is ofcourse also the option that what he described were weather baloons, with some corpses of childrens inside, put there by someone who wanted to get attention, and someone shoot the baloons, making them fall over that place described.
    Unlikely as this is, I find it more likely than the whole ufo idea :P.
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  • ByekaByeka Name changed from Freak83 Toronto Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14484Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1843570:date=May 1 2011, 10:52 PM:name=Feha)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Feha @ May 1 2011, 10:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843570"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I got a feeling that either someone decided to troll people and forged that thing, or its a arpil fools joke, which maybe was a tad late.

    There is ofcourse also the option that what he described were weather baloons, with some corpses of childrens inside, put there by someone who wanted to get attention, and someone shoot the baloons, making them fall over that place described.
    Unlikely as this is, I find it more likely than the whole ufo idea :P.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    As Drfuzzy already pointed out, it's also listed for public viewing directly on the FBI website - <a href="http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/" target="_blank">http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/</a>
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    edited May 2011
    I did more reading on this earlier also, its rumored that it was a report of a con artist using that story as a way to try to get investors to drill for oil in the area at the time, telling them that he had alien technology that could see underground. Could possibly be why it says they had nothing further to report at the end.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Yes, it's a real report.

    No it doesn't actually say anything. It just says that some informant gave this information to an FBI guy, who then has to make an official document out of it, that is all.
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  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1843686:date=May 2 2011, 02:04 PM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thansal @ May 2 2011, 02:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843686"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, it's a real report.

    No it doesn't actually say anything. It just says that some informant gave this information to an FBI guy, who then has to make an official document out of it, that is all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pretty much.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Here is an example of more fun things in their files:
    <a href="http://vault.fbi.gov/Animal%20Mutilation" target="_blank">Animal Mutilation Any One?</a>
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  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    hah, thats actually interesting stuff to read.

    Makes me wish they make a lil program about alot of those unsolved cases. The REAL unsolved cases :P
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1843729:date=May 2 2011, 07:53 PM:name=Tykjen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tykjen @ May 2 2011, 07:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843729"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hah, thats actually interesting stuff to read.

    Makes me wish they make a lil program about alot of those unsolved cases. The REAL unsolved cases :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's a joke, right?

    There have been a million shows on those. They range about from "OMG ALIENS!" to "Look, it was a couple of blokes with a plank and a piece of twine".
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  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1843739:date=May 3 2011, 02:49 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thansal @ May 3 2011, 02:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843739"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That's a joke, right?

    There have been a million shows on those. They range about from "OMG ALIENS!" to "Look, it was a couple of blokes with a plank and a piece of twine".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I did NOT mean those fantasy shows. Id rather take a documentary. Whats the official story on cattle mutilations? I still dont know. Cult or UFO? hah I cant lean towards either.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited May 2011
    That's the second group of shows. I was specifically talking about crop circles (the actual explanation is 2 guys with some twine and a board, it's all sorts of awesome tbh as it's basically just applied mathematics). Hell, the first set are also 'documentaries' they are just bad, full of bad 'science' and filled with idiots.

    As for cattle mutilation, the answer has ranged about a lot, generally because each instance of mutilation is relatively different. Some are attributed to humans, some to scavengers, and some are unknown. That said, the number of instances of Cattle Mutilation is fairly damn low. Read the FBI stuff I linked if you really want to know (it covers a fairly big FBI investigation into it a while back).

    These shows were really popular about 10-15 years back (when I was in HS). Or just watch random episodes of Penn and Teller's BS (They have covered aliens a few times and cryptozoology)
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    And there are still people who believe in crop circles and think that at most the rope & board thing is a clever way to fake "real" ones. As Long John Silver said, "the world wants to be fooled."
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  • ByekaByeka Name changed from Freak83 Toronto Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14484Members, Constellation
    Thansal, some crop circles are man-made. That has been proven, admitted to and demonstrated.

    Others are extremely elaborate, appear miles away from any civilization overnight with no light or any way to work out a ground plan, and are HUGE. These are the ones that are still a mystery today.

    Also, I like how your sig still has a TWG quote in it :P
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2011
    So no Stargate or interstellar ship then just some "gibs"?
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1843803:date=May 3 2011, 04:50 PM:name=Byeka)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Byeka @ May 3 2011, 04:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843803"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Others are extremely elaborate, appear miles away from any civilization overnight with no light or any way to work out a ground plan, and are HUGE. These are the ones that are still a mystery today.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    All crop circles are created by the inhabitants of Earth. Whether insects or an animal or whatever manages to destroy or eat it and leave it in a "rough shape" of something, or whether people are creating these with some pretty cool techniques it doesn't matter. No form of life would communicate that way, not when there are much simpler and better ways for them to do so. As someone mentioned fooling, only a fool would believe in alien crop circles.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    Bored teenagers in rural areas with nothing better to do

    vs

    Lifeforms that are so advanced we have no physical proof of their existence except that they leave cryptic geometric 'communications' in crop fields, but never actually present themselves to us

    I think Occam's razor makes pretty quick work of this
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  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1843810:date=May 3 2011, 01:26 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thaldarin @ May 3 2011, 01:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843810"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->All crop circles are created by the inhabitants of Earth. Whether insects or an animal or whatever manages to destroy or eat it and leave it in a "rough shape" of something, or whether people are creating these with some pretty cool techniques it doesn't matter. No form of life would communicate that way, not when there are much simpler and better ways for them to do so. As someone mentioned fooling, only a fool would believe in alien crop circles.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Maybe it is the alien equivalent of tagging. <img src="http://www.purpleboard.net/forums/images/smilies/037.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1843999:date=May 4 2011, 04:11 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xyth @ May 4 2011, 04:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1843999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Bored teenagers in rural areas with nothing better to do

    vs

    Lifeforms that are so advanced we have no physical proof of their existence except that <b>they like to troll us</b> with cryptic geometric 'communications' in crop fields, but never actually present themselves to us

    I think Occam's razor makes pretty quick work of this<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fixed :P
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    edited May 2011
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