Good Intentions Gone Awry

PJJPJJ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9579Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Alien auto kill. This is what its become</div> <img src='http://www.ratemycase.com/ns/dork.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Now, anyone who knows me knows that I am the first guy to mess around at the end of a game. When Aliens are doomed, I'll build some Defense chambers in some corner or something and hide. Hell, I have even done it in that very room the picture was taken from. Here is where the problem comes in.

The room you are seeing, Port Airlock on ns_nancy was worked on by one gorge from the first minute of the game, until the end of the game. He did not help his team, he ran straight from spawn into that room, went gorge, and began building all that stuff for the sole purpose of hiding out there at the end of the game. While we were trying to secure our first hive, he built. While we were trying to secure our second hive, he built. As we were trying to get the Marines out of Mother Interface and keep them from Sieging, he built. Basically, he cost us the match. He slowed down our other two gorges resources to the point where we couldn't keep up. Plus, if he had built all that near one of our hives, we would have had the time to go Fades and fend off the attackers. Our entire team miss Fades by LITERALLY 2 seconds. The instant the first of us got 44, our first hive went down.

Anyway, the point of this thread was to ask if anyone else has noticed end of match holdouts getting worse since the 1.03 patch?

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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    (Fixing incorrect topic date due to server issue)
  • PJJPJJ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9579Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Dec 17 2002, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Dec 17 2002, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(Fixing incorrect topic date due to server issue)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know MonsieurEvil, I think you are just trying to increase your post count! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--PJ-+Dec 18 2002, 12:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PJ- @ Dec 18 2002, 12:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Dec 17 2002, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Dec 17 2002, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(Fixing incorrect topic date due to server issue)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know MonsieurEvil, I think you are just trying to increase your post count! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He's the board admin, he could make it 100000000 if he wanted to with some nifty php-editing.
  • PJJPJJ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9579Members
    edited December 2002
    I know. I was joking, hense <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Besides, he wouldn't need PHP editing. Just submit an INSERT SQL query specifying his userid and the post count whatever he wanted. Personally, I'd make my post count 31337 and lock it. =)
  • OkaboreOkabore Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9505Members
    Before the patch the only ones I have seen trying to hide at the end is marines and I didn't figure it a problem since aliens seems to be able to hunt them down quite fast.
    It was first after the patch I ever saw aliens trying to hide.
    In one game on tanith the marines had to build a human ladder <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> to get to the last skulk who was hiding in a vent. We were all decked out in our splendid HA suits so we couldn't just fly up.

    It might be that I'm on good pubs but I haven't seen much in the way of either hiding skulks or rambos.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Marines are screwed with hive 3 goes up, aliens are screwed when hive 1 goes down. Either take out the onos if the kill countdown is taken out, or leave it how it is.
  • BobTheDogBobTheDog Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9065Members
    I hate the auto kill thing for aliens if all 3 hives die. Marines dont have that.. why pick on the aliens? at least THEY have a freaking chance to rebuild! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--PJ-+Dec 18 2002, 01:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PJ- @ Dec 18 2002, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I know. I was joking, hense <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Besides, he wouldn't need PHP editing. Just submit an INSERT SQL query specifying his userid and the post count whatever he wanted. Personally, I'd make my post count 31337 and lock it. =)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It would be an UPDATE query he'd use, but it would be easier to just use the admin CP built into this forum to change it.
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--BobTheDog+Dec 17 2002, 09:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheDog @ Dec 17 2002, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hate the auto kill thing for aliens if all 3 hives die. Marines dont have that.. why pick on the aliens? at least THEY have a freaking chance to rebuild! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Did you even read my post?
  • SemperFiSemperFi Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1049Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BobTheDog+Dec 18 2002, 02:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheDog @ Dec 18 2002, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hate the auto kill thing for aliens if all 3 hives die. Marines dont have that.. why pick on the aliens? at least THEY have a freaking chance to rebuild! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    marines cant get every where the aliens can.....
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--|SemperFi|+Dec 18 2002, 03:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|SemperFi| @ Dec 18 2002, 03:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--BobTheDog+Dec 18 2002, 02:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheDog @ Dec 18 2002, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I hate the auto kill thing for aliens if all 3 hives die.  Marines dont have that.. why pick on the aliens?  at least THEY have a freaking chance to rebuild! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    marines cant get every where the aliens can.....<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    marine + jetpack should be able to get anywhere any alien can.
  • SovKhanSovKhan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7099Members
    only a problem on pubs.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    if you can't swim to 'em, siege'em! sieges will kill any hiding alien, especially since 1.03 kills anything with no hive.
  • sekdarsekdar Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9564Members
    someone who does that should be banned from the intarweb...
  • saberxsaberx Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3044Members
    edited December 2002
    I've only seen this once.

    Two guys were on my usual server, both were on the alien team. They went into a vent then both evolved into gorges and built a couple defensive chambers. Then they just sat in the vent the entire map sucking resources and not doing anything.

    Everyone saw what they were doing and ended up hitting F4. Next round they did the same thing - I left after that.
  • Dead_DragonDead_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10972Members
    A single gorge can only build 8 turrets in any one location. So it cant be that much of a big deal, surely?
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    the term "your damned if you do, damned if you dont" comes to my mind ...
  • KatsuroKatsuro Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4809Members
    I was on that server when he did that, i was spectating him and saying all sorts of naughty words to describe him.
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    Well it <i>is</i> a team game, and it <i>is</i> multiplayer on the internet, and we all know (or at least I've always said) that <i>only</i> jerks play online games. Jerks can ruin a team based game in any number of ways, I don't think the auto-kill removal will help this. What you need is a team vote kick command (admin mod?).

    Make it different than admin_vote_kick that everyone votes on, (because when I hear that someone on the other team is helping me win, I don't always want him to stop) make it team based. Aliens can vote out players on their own team only, ditto for marines. How's that sound?
  • The_Holy_GreyThe_Holy_Grey Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10977Members
    Well maybe he worked for the marines <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Have you noticed anyone quickly sliding him 50 bux after the game ?
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