Why not let lerk lift Gorge?

Classic319Classic319 Join Date: 2010-11-06 Member: 74789Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">instead of giving bilebomb completely to lerk over.</div>
I've once seen that lerk will bilebomb instead of gorge, i love that idea, but why don't you just let them lift gorge and let them need to be more organic?

Lerk alone bilebombing would cause more self-playing to aliens. Lerk+Gorge bilebomb would look nice, and function nice as a teamplay.
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Griefers. Gorge building, picked up, dropped into marine group, or deathpit.
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  • Gravity GraveGravity Grave California Join Date: 2012-03-10 Member: 148556Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1912438:date=Mar 12 2012, 04:29 PM:name=Classic319)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Classic319 @ Mar 12 2012, 04:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1912438"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've once seen that lerk will bilebomb instead of gorge, i love that idea, but why don't you just let them lift gorge and let them need to be more organic?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No idea where you heard that Lerks will get bile bomb... that seems like it would be pretty OP. However, assuming that's true, allowing Lerks to carry Gorges around instead would be pretty cool.
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    The problem with lerklift is, that a gorge can heal the lerk all the time and because he is below the lerk he's also a fat absorber.

    Right now a gorge with bilebomb is a mobile and selfhealing that has double the DMG/s that a ARC has, but is cheap and agile. Also gorge can sit in vents and bile a base down, what the Lerk can't because he needs to fly to drop a BB. And the effective price for BB is increased to 30res.

    And the biggest pro, Lerk = B52 w corpduster
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited March 2012
    The main reason is that the marines aren't ready for it!
    <a href="http://www.existence-unknown.com/_gallery3/comic/page48.html" target="_blank">http://www.existence-unknown.com/_gallery3/comic/page48.html</a> - Well they do have jetpacks now, so my point might be moot :P
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1912450:date=Mar 12 2012, 05:33 PM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Mar 12 2012, 05:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1912450"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The problem with lerklift is, that a gorge can heal the lerk all the time and because he is below the lerk he's also a fat absorber.

    Right now a gorge with bilebomb is a mobile and selfhealing that has double the DMG/s that a ARC has, but is cheap and agile. Also gorge can sit in vents and bile a base down, what the Lerk can't because he needs to fly to drop a BB. And the effective price for BB is increased to 30res.

    And the biggest pro, Lerk = B52 w corpduster<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This can be solved if the Gorge is turned into an egg while Lerklift is in effect, and only the Gorge would be able to trigger lift/drop (+use perhaps) to avoid Lerk griefing, unless he plans on double suicide :P
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1912466:date=Mar 13 2012, 05:31 AM:name=PsiWarp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsiWarp @ Mar 13 2012, 05:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1912466"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This can be solved if the Gorge is turned into an egg while Lerklift is in effect, and only the Gorge would be able to trigger lift/drop (+use perhaps) to avoid Lerk griefing, unless he plans on double suicide :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    never seen a drowning one drag someone else down with him?
    never seen a zombie hord jump a survivor?
    Piranhas in a frenzy?

    Bad idea. Very bad.
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    edited March 2012
    Not sure what you mean by that, Lerk lift has always had grief potential (mostly Lerk side). If you wanna hitch a ride as Gorge, you should know when to ditch :P

    Also:
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->only the Gorge would be able to trigger lift/drop (+use perhaps)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    As in Gorge exclusive ability, and NOT by Lerk (dohoho teammate devour)
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1912502:date=Mar 13 2012, 11:43 AM:name=PsiWarp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsiWarp @ Mar 13 2012, 11:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1912502"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not sure what you mean by that, Lerk lift has always had grief potential (mostly Lerk side). If you wanna hitch a ride as Gorge, you should know when to ditch :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Storytime.
    Imagine hiveroom.
    Door is blasted away.
    From the darkness steps an exo in, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgnIjJexut4&t=470" target="_blank">RAPTEIME</a>

    Gorges panic. Everyone rushes to the <strike>escape chopper</strike> single lerk and trys to get <strike>in</strike> on.

    Lerk lifts off and crys "over weight" as it explodes into lucky charms as the exo's miniguns rip it apart like a cat shredding your favorite book.
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    I don't expect lerks to teammates that much. It is hilarious to watch lerks lifting marines, then dropping them to their deaths though - but this is not the topic of this thread.

    I like the idea of gorges pressing 'e' to attach to lerks, rather than the other way around. Might go the other way though - lerks not wanting to be attached to and getting stuck because they cannot enter vents or cannot stick to walls while holding tubby.
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  • AnticeptAnticept Join Date: 2006-12-03 Member: 58875Members, Constellation
    Does this make a lerk a teli-tubby? *crickets*

    Must press E on each other and HOLD IT until gorge is grappled. Disable all abilities on both lerk and gorge. Fixes all problems, gives a little more mobility.
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  • LV426-ColonistLV426-Colonist Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
    This has been talked about numerous times.

    It's possibly one of the stupidest ideas ever.
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  • AnticeptAnticept Join Date: 2006-12-03 Member: 58875Members, Constellation
    edited March 2012
    You never played it when it was a plugin for an admin mod in the original game. Was useful for getting already morphed gorges to high up places to put down hydras as a counter to nadespam.
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i played it in the original ns and was allways cussing at the lerks trying to get me somewhere "safe".
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  • AnticeptAnticept Join Date: 2006-12-03 Member: 58875Members, Constellation
    edited March 2012
    Sounds like me when I'm getting mad enough to rage at the rambo marines... (at which point I'm ready to just quit the game).

    Can we get votekick? :D
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  • Soul_RiderSoul_Rider Mod Bean Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29388Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Either way it fails.

    Gorge has to use lerk...

    Lerk doesn't want to lift gorge, doesn't want to help gorge, gorge ends up half a map away from where he wants to be.

    Lerk has to use gorge...

    Gorge is building, he doesn't want to be moved, gorge ends up half a map away from where he wants to be.

    This is just one simple example for each use scenario, there are too many reasons why this doesn't work in the long run. It is a mechanic that is open to constant griefing and there isn't anything that can be done to counter it.
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  • LV426-ColonistLV426-Colonist Space Jockey Join Date: 2011-08-05 Member: 114269Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1912805:date=Mar 14 2012, 01:24 AM:name=Anticept)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anticept @ Mar 14 2012, 01:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1912805"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You never played it when it was a plugin for an admin mod in the original game. Was useful for getting already morphed gorges to high up places to put down hydras as a counter to nadespam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I've seen it used in game for myself. How can you much such assumptions?

    I stand by what I've said: this is the stupidest idea ever.
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  • AnticeptAnticept Join Date: 2006-12-03 Member: 58875Members, Constellation
    edited March 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1912985:date=Mar 14 2012, 05:47 PM:name=LV426-Colonist)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LV426-Colonist @ Mar 14 2012, 05:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1912985"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've seen it used in game for myself. How can you much such assumptions?

    I stand by what I've said: this is the stupidest idea ever.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You called it an idea, which is why I had assumed you never done it.

    Besides, I'd like to understand why you are calling it a bad idea, rather than just insulting it... :)
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