Tf Bugs Comms Should Know About

Praevus · December 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">ESP. when you can't upgrade</div> Ok, forgot what map name was (Like I ever remember). But its hives are mainteance, CC, and Eclipse. Some known 'can't upgrade TF' locations include South Loop (If you build Southwest-West of it). Also noteable is the Southern part of Triad.

Anything else?

Destro · December 2002

The map you are talking about is Eclipse, and yes you can't upgrade the tf at south loop, although if you place it right on or as near as possible to the resource node you should be able to.
The triad one i always place right near the node too so it upgrades for me, but yes these are definately some bugs that need to get fixed.

WarpZone · December 2002

This happens all over the place on ns_bast, and if you can talk your soldiers into it, holding the use key and "building" the advanced turret factory after it's finished upgrading will get it working. Or are we talking about two seperate bugs, here?

Destro · December 2002

that's a different bug

this one is you click on the factory and it has no upgrade option AT ALL
like you will click on the factory but instead you will be clicking on a turret like you can't select the factory at all
even if you recycle everything around it you still can't select it to upgrade.

in some cases if you upgrade a totally different factory the one you mean to upgrade will upgrade, however this does not work in the south loop on eclipse.

Evildwarf · December 2002

I've noticed this bug also, its a big drawback for the marines, once or twice it has screwed up whole games for me as i pump up a TF and some turrets near a hive and I cant upgrade to seige. Really frustrating.

sillY · December 2002

lost a game on eclipse today because of this, couldn't upgrade the one in s loop, then built tf near cc hive wall and couldn't upgrade, got sm1 else to get in cc chair and try it but he had same bug. i am not commanding on eclipse anymore until this gets fixed.

agentprop · December 2002

Yeah, although this doesnt just happen with TF, its happened to me when EVERYTHING couldnt be clicked on, except a phase gate, After recycling the phase gate, all we could select was a turret, even after recycling everything but the lab, we still couldnt upgrade. Building new stuff at cc allowed us to upgrade though. I think it might be level height, things under/over a certain level screw stuff up?

MrPink · December 2002

Lost a game awhile back because you can't upgrade anything in the eclipce hive. The skulks rushed our base mid-game (I was comm and kind of expecting it, but because it's better to have your main base in a hive, I just let it happen) and they killed all our things, so I spent a good 200 rp's rebuilding at the eclipse hive, then relized it was all worthless because I couldn't select ANY buildings. I spawned tripmines and shotties for all and waited to die.

MeOnCrack · December 2002

I too have trouble upgrading turret factory at eclipse hive. Usually I just gather up enough marines to defend the hive, while I recycle everything that gets selected until there is only the factory left. Either that or when you start building the TF, you keep it selected and when it gets built, immediately upgrade it. Though it's not much of an option if it's early in the game.

Bluee · December 2002

The upgrade bug is very annoying in the eclipse hive. One time in a scrim, we had a base there as marines (including one in Maintenance), and after them having been repelled from Maintenance, they made a strike for Eclipse. They spammed chambers and skulks, and among the low-FPS chaos, we couldn't do much. We wanted to upgrade the TF so we could siege there stuff, but the factory wouldn't upgrade.

So we busted out the HMGs instead. We won eventually. Then promptly lost to a marine-rush the next half <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

V_MAN · December 2002

Same thing happed to me when I built a tf near the cc hive on eclipse cost us the game because I had to build another tf which was fatal in terms of time wasted.

BlueGhost · December 2002

Almost lost a game like that earlier today, if anyone with alot of time on their hands can find the 'sweet spot' in eclipse hive where you can build a TF and still select it I'll be very greatfull. We'd grabbed Comp Core and Eclipse and had them gated and everything was peachy, my marines were ALL fluxing and I was just sitting back not taking any risks and waiting for HA/HMG to finish them off, I'm just about to start on the research when all of a sudden we have a load of offence chambers spammed on us in eclipse.....

EVERYBODY TO ECLIPSE HIVE! screameth I.

Everybody goes to eclipse and attempts to gun down the turrets that're just outside.
'Don't shoot the turrets we'll seige!' I attempt to siege but wtf I cannot select it, all I can select is the gate. *scratch head* and get as many people as poss there then cycle the gate, STILL can't select it, build new gate and new TF in eclipse, cannot select that eather..

At this point bubba one of my marines screams for a nade launcher, so I upgraded the armoury bubba gets the nade launcher and all is well, but it could have been a really really **obscenity** way to lose a game. Rest of the game went according to plan, slowly went up the tech tree while denying them any tech and then walked to their hive with 4HA/HMG and 1 HA/Grenade launcher and stormed it.

BlueGhost
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Metalizer · December 2002

Correct me if I'm wrong but...don't map creators have the option of making an area(s) NOT siegable? Maybe this is by design...

PeregineDive · December 2002

Lucky aliens if its by design!! But I highly doubt it...

-PD

Archzai · December 2002

Yes EXACTLY.. there is a bug like that on ns_eclipse

and it is f***ING annoying.... seriously..

my clan and i got totally humiliated beacuse we were in a pub server and i was trying to upgrade the TF near the middle hive... forgot the name... and i think it was south loop.. well nywayz... due to no seiege... we got raped.... by fades.... and that was F***ING annoying beacuse everyone on my team called me a n00b CO and my whole clan n00bs for not have seige turrets.... god.... i had eveyrthing perfect tooo.. like an outpost... 2-3 turrets... phasegate FIRST... i ended up making an armory even tho they couldve phased back to base... but i had over 300 RPs beacuse it the sieges weren't goin up.. -.-

so yeah... and the bug comes and goes... for eaxmple... the next round.. it worked and they seiged us... so stupid

i mean i had n00b teammates that told me a prototype and arms lab were needed to upgrade turret fac..
i knew for sure you didn't need arms lab or prototype... im quite sure.. even tho i dunno cuz i always make those two structures nywyaz...
i hope they can fix it..

WarpZone · December 2002

Wait a minute... south loop... ns_bast... OMG! The tfactory bug only pops up <i>in locations where a siege would be most useful!!</i> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'>

Now I'm wondering if perhaps it was even <i>intentially</i> coded into 1.03... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

DooM_Space_Marine · December 2002

I haven't won a game against better-than-newbie players as a Marine for about a week now, because of this noticeably. And because a lot of comms build 10 turrets around res tower at base, go to Horseshoe and make a TF that's easily destroyable then become hellbent on taking possession of Maintenance Access without caring about South Loop or the other hives, at all. *SIGH*

Nm3-Col_EcLiPsE · December 2002

Archzai same has happend 2 me many times on games with my clan but we have been training to not relie on seiges because of the bug. with the res you saved up you should of made to research points and had 1 research weapons and other research armor and then got HMG's & GL out. GL is the only subsatuit to seige.

Tf Bugs Comms Should Know About

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