I Am Tired Of Accusations Of Cheating
Taskman
Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9613Members
Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9613Members
Ok I know I am gonna get flamed but I Dont care
After I read the most recent posting about a guy complaing about "uber" players coming on board and somehow owning everyone because they MUST use an aimbot or wallhack. How else can they shoot so good or seem to know where you are?
I am here to say here and now that this is total BS. Every time I get on a server after 5min or so I am accused of cheating or using an aimbot. I happen to be good at FPS games and unlike you newbs who complain about me cheating and other like me. I use my BRAIN!
Since I have more room to type I am going to actually teach you accusers exactly how us "UBER" players manage to own you so easily.
First of all I have been playing for YEARS. I have playes CS for over 2 years. My mouse sensistivity is beyond what your could comprehend. I use an everglide mousepad combined with mouse skatez. If you dont know what that stuff is then you are never going to rise above.
Now you accusers(newbs) would say that even with all that I am able to hit you to easily. Have any of you heard about dodging? Or 'GASP' strafing. The skulks who accuse me of cheating run straight at me. A child can hold down the mouse button and kill them. When I am a skulk I am jumping, dodging, running up walls, anything but going straight at a marine.
Ok Next is the accusers who say I wallhack. one word SOUND. Sound is everything. Before CS sound wasnt worth sqaut. However after a couple years of CS I can have devoloped better hearing. In the middle of a gun fight I can hear a skulk trying to charge my flank. As an alien I can hear a marines footsteps from a significant distance. Marines and aliens make different sounds except for the gorge who makes one similiar to the marines when going over metal. Didn't know that did you newbs?
Now in case none of this sunk in and I am sure for some you are still doubting me I will do one more little explanation.
I am not a big sports fan so I will just go by the big names. Michael Jordan. I am sure many of you have played basketball. I am sure there are several of you on a school team or play at the Y or something. Do any of you even approach his skill? Does he use an aimbot to get the ball in the basket? does he have 360 degree motin sensoning ability to know where the other players are. No way, Jordan is good because of years of practice and a natural ability for the game.
Now I am in NO WAY comparing myself to Michael jordan. I am just trying to explain to you that there is a wide range of skill levels in everything that involves competition.
Oh and one more thing. You newbs might call me a cheater but you have no idea what skill is. I would be considred minor leages to those who truly have skills. I know some of you know what I am talking about. I am talkin about PRO players. Guys who only play in hardcore clan matches for money. These guys make me look like the child. Count your stars newbs that I and people like me are all you have to deal with.
For all you guys who are in the same boat as me know your not alone. I always pay respect to players on a server who show they actually know tactics and how to use a gun or maw in this case. Pay respect to fellow players who show skill. Let them know they are not alone.
*Disclaimer*
Just so you know I am not usually this harsh but I just cant stand it when people dont respect skill. Oh and for you cheaters out there. I have somethin to say.
I have seen your kind before and I will see it again and everytime I will show you that all the aimbots and all the wall hacks in the world wont save you from me! For I have the skill. I know the game. And you are a newb.
Taskman
After I read the most recent posting about a guy complaing about "uber" players coming on board and somehow owning everyone because they MUST use an aimbot or wallhack. How else can they shoot so good or seem to know where you are?
I am here to say here and now that this is total BS. Every time I get on a server after 5min or so I am accused of cheating or using an aimbot. I happen to be good at FPS games and unlike you newbs who complain about me cheating and other like me. I use my BRAIN!
Since I have more room to type I am going to actually teach you accusers exactly how us "UBER" players manage to own you so easily.
First of all I have been playing for YEARS. I have playes CS for over 2 years. My mouse sensistivity is beyond what your could comprehend. I use an everglide mousepad combined with mouse skatez. If you dont know what that stuff is then you are never going to rise above.
Now you accusers(newbs) would say that even with all that I am able to hit you to easily. Have any of you heard about dodging? Or 'GASP' strafing. The skulks who accuse me of cheating run straight at me. A child can hold down the mouse button and kill them. When I am a skulk I am jumping, dodging, running up walls, anything but going straight at a marine.
Ok Next is the accusers who say I wallhack. one word SOUND. Sound is everything. Before CS sound wasnt worth sqaut. However after a couple years of CS I can have devoloped better hearing. In the middle of a gun fight I can hear a skulk trying to charge my flank. As an alien I can hear a marines footsteps from a significant distance. Marines and aliens make different sounds except for the gorge who makes one similiar to the marines when going over metal. Didn't know that did you newbs?
Now in case none of this sunk in and I am sure for some you are still doubting me I will do one more little explanation.
I am not a big sports fan so I will just go by the big names. Michael Jordan. I am sure many of you have played basketball. I am sure there are several of you on a school team or play at the Y or something. Do any of you even approach his skill? Does he use an aimbot to get the ball in the basket? does he have 360 degree motin sensoning ability to know where the other players are. No way, Jordan is good because of years of practice and a natural ability for the game.
Now I am in NO WAY comparing myself to Michael jordan. I am just trying to explain to you that there is a wide range of skill levels in everything that involves competition.
Oh and one more thing. You newbs might call me a cheater but you have no idea what skill is. I would be considred minor leages to those who truly have skills. I know some of you know what I am talking about. I am talkin about PRO players. Guys who only play in hardcore clan matches for money. These guys make me look like the child. Count your stars newbs that I and people like me are all you have to deal with.
For all you guys who are in the same boat as me know your not alone. I always pay respect to players on a server who show they actually know tactics and how to use a gun or maw in this case. Pay respect to fellow players who show skill. Let them know they are not alone.
*Disclaimer*
Just so you know I am not usually this harsh but I just cant stand it when people dont respect skill. Oh and for you cheaters out there. I have somethin to say.
I have seen your kind before and I will see it again and everytime I will show you that all the aimbots and all the wall hacks in the world wont save you from me! For I have the skill. I know the game. And you are a newb.
Taskman
Comments
The thing is what many players don't realise is that NS was made with anti cheating in mind. Thats why there is cone fire on guns Hive sight, motion tracking etc
There are cheats but they arn't as useful in NS as CS
Good Post though
The original post, in itself, is a flame. What you've said won't stop the accusations, it will only cause more.
I knew all the stuff you said, and I've been accused, but telling people like that won't help matters.
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As is your grammar mate.
I am a really nice guy. I just hate being pushed, kicked, and banned because I happen to be good at the game. I help out new players all the time and defend anyone who gets accused of being a newbie but I have to draw a line somewhere. Its no fun when I somehow come out of an incredible battle and instead of a comment like "Nice fight" or that was "impressive" I get "cheater" and "hacker." It gets so the game is just not fun and I am forced to to another server.
Taskman
It's easy to label someone a cheater. It's not easy accepting that you aren't the best player on the server.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Regards,
Savant
Skills are important in NS, yes... however, I think the ability to get along and work well with others is far, far more important. We "newbs" as you put it aren't just your enemies - we're your teammates, too. Play nice, k?
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ive seen a Skulk do something totally awesome before...instead of stupidly running in a straight line towards me, the skulk ran up a wall, onto the ceiling and landed perfectly, it was awesome to look at because i was firing at it and my shots were closely following the skulk (dam lag)
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all i could say was "that was awesome"
"youve been watching the matrix too much"
slighty off topic...but it was cooooool.
Example:
Vecdran headshots [1manclan]n00b1e
Vecdran headshots =VPN=Chicumba
Vecdran kills BOOBIES! with M4A1
[1manclan]n00b1e: OMG! HACKER!!!!!!
Vecdran: ??
[1manclan]n00b1e: NO ONE CAN GET THAT MANY HEADSHOTS IN A ROW!
BOOBIES!: ban the hacking **obscenity**
=VPN=Chicumba: goodbye vec
*You have been banned from the server*
And there you go, another typical day in CS where my "hacking" gets me banned
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Regards,
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Yeah and I can't wait until 1.05 gets all those gamma and brightness above 1 cheaters and those mouse sensitvity above 3 cheaters.
it's the new face of multiplayer games and its best to just ignore them.
So, that'll be me stuffed, seeing as I have
A) A duff monitor, so gamma has to be set by me
B) I play on Sensitivity 20. All the time.
recently my clan got accused of cheating in a clan match because mm well we was playing a clan match how it should be speed harsh'ness and no chances we had control of 3 hives b4 the marines even left there base and when we attcked with onos skulk and fade combo they was still working on there base. same with marines we took 2 hives and they ws still for some reason having everyone defend there hive. when we atackeed they banned 2 of my members including me who was commanding so when i whent they had no coordination or infomation about wot was happening on the battle field and then claimed they won the match.... mmm llamas not gonna say wot clan it was but u know who you are !
they weere being stupid, you do realize that, yes?
Also Vecdarn and [Nm3]-Col.EcLiPsE I tottaly feel for you guys.
Again I apologize for my harshness and I was only accusing people who all to quickly accuse people without looking at the facts.
Taskman
P.S. Anyone know any serious clans I can try out for? I really want to experience an organized match.
I am here to say here and now that this is total BS.
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*Disclaimer*
Oh and for you cheaters out there. I have somethin to say. I have seen your kind before and I will see it again and everytime I will show you that all the aimbots and all the wall hacks in the world wont save you from me! For I have the skill.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You say there is no cheating and then you close with a message to cheaters.
It seems you're a bit uncertain yourself. The question is not whether or not YOU are cheating. The question is whether or not it goes on. And although you initially assert that it doesn't happen, that it's all based on skill, you end up saying that there is cheating going on.
In essence, you destroy your own argument.
so thinkk in that
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and yes I know ppl are tools and try to use the lame argument that b/c both drawviewmodels and mous sens are variables then yiu can;t label one a cheat with out labeling them all, thus none of them are cheats"
meh, getting tired of stupid arguments, can't wait till r_drawviewmodels is locked so that these stupid freakingfalme wars will DIE!!!
then we only have to worry about the tools who will simply dell the sprites
5 consecutive kills in Q3: EXCELLENT!
5 consecutive kills in UT: MONSTER KILL!
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5 consecutive kills in CS: kicked by console
All i'm saying is alot of cheaters have ruined it for freakishly good players and don't blame the newbs of calling u a cheat if ur too good, coz most of the time players that get stupidly good scores are.
I understand that there are ppl that are really good, I look at there pings and settle that they are better then me but sometimes players get ridiculous scores and no matter what they say its hard to imagine you have this other player that has a faster re ction time then any other on a server. Although on Ns i'm alot more understanding. Its not really abouts scores thank goodness.
I can see what you are saying about listening thats probably why I don't get the scores I could as I don't have the patience.
But being banned in that short time sounds really strange by the sounds of it ur better off being banned as ur too good to play on that server anyway.
Look for a servers with skilled players or clans etc or poke urself in the eye or something.
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Whenever anyone starts doing well, above the norm, the first thought is not "wow, he/shes good!" or a pub chat "nice shootin".
No, the first thought is: "Are they cheating ?".
It's sad but also a fact of multiplayer life. I find myself doing it and kick myself and try to be less suspicious. As difficult as it may be to take in, you me be having your butt handed to you by a simply superior player.
It's also far easier to accuse someone of cheatin rather then think, "hang on, he probably heard me a mile off and I just ran in a straight line at him, of course i'm LMG food", especially when your already having a bad night.
You've got to think why you keep getting killed by that same player, and adjust your playing style to beat him/her.
"nice shootin biatch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->" is my highest form of praise to an opponent! I usually get a smile back or a thanks. Makes the game more enjoyable and fun for everybody when you get a friendly rivalry with somebody, especially when I bite that same players head off moments later <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Much better then an ill-thought snap response of accusing someone of cheating.
On the other hand... Anyone who cheats in a multiplayer game is just pathetic... Sure, they get the sense of power, but it's downright rude. [/off-topic-rant]
Now then... Back on topic... I, too, know the feeling... Even way back in the QWTF days... That's QuakeWorld Team Fortress... There was tons of cheating on the insecure Quake 1 engine... Every public server seemed to have at least 1-2 wallhackers or speedhackers, so any player with any skill would inevitably be accused of cheating and banned from dozens of servers... ESPECIALLY THE SNIPERS!
Then of course iD released the source code to the Q1 engine, and everyone with the brains to open up a text file, change a number, and copy-paste a command to run a compiler could make their very own hack. By that point, anyone who knew the meaning of the word "strafe" MUST have been using some sort of speedhack, because they weren't walking in a straight line!
Well, time to leave Quake 1... So off to Half-Life! TFC paled in comparison, but hey, what's this? It's CS! Let's try it out.... Get owned for a few days, then get the hang of it and learn the nuances... Suddenly I'm getting high kill ratios, and voila! I'm a cheater again! I got banned from dozens of servers because I used my BRAIN.
Wait, what's a brain? What are tactics? What is sound? I thought we were supposed to turn around in circles until we see someone, then click the mouse button while looking in their general direction!
NS hasn't been around long enough for this to get really bad, especially since the anti-cheat stuff is holding back some of the weaker cheaters... But t's only a matter of time...
Gee, I've been ranting for a while now...
So let me conclude with this... HOW TO WIN IN A MODERN FPS:
1) Get a good mousepad. Felt pads have too much friction, and force you to clean your mouse every few days for good movement. Vinyl/plastic mousepads tend to slip and slide, so your all-important quick 180-degree turn-and-frag becomes a 90-degree turn-and-die. Personally, I use a leather mousepad, and it works wonders. Obviously this doesn't apply to optical mice, but I prefer a good old balled wheel-mouse. My wireless optical mouse is gathering dust in the closet.
2) Wear headphones. A good pair of studio-quality headphones (Big ones that muffle outside noise and give a good frequency range), combined with an EAX/A3D-capable sound card can give you near-perfect directional audio. What does this mean? It means you can hear a single skulk footstep, and know EXACTLY which direction to turn, possibly even wasting him before you see him. If this isn't working right for you, check your mixer/speaker settings, and make sure it's set up for headphones. Turn off the radio or the TV, and listen intently to every sound the game makes.
3) Think before you move. Every decision has benefits and consequences. Do you pursue that skulk around the corner, or do you stay back and guard your friend, who's building a TF? Do you follow your team to the next waypoint, or pause to engage an offense chamber? Decisions like this can be the difference between life and death, and can cost your team valuable resources and time. Unfortunately, only tactical insight and experience will help you in this department.
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So, that'll be me stuffed, seeing as I have
A) A duff monitor, so gamma has to be set by me
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That's me too.. I play with sensitivity of 15.
As for the gamma thing, that is just foolish.
People should set it at a proper level. Some people though only want to play a game to win. Nothing in there about enjoying it. Has anyone actually been able to hide in the darkness? It seems people would rather severely cripple the feel of the game.
Use the gamma setup that comes with NS to get it set properly foo!
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As for opticals... Like I said, I have a wireless optical mouse which I don't use... It's a first-generation one, and it tends to miss quick movements, assuming it was just picked up... This is a disaster when you need to make a quick turn to shoot a flanking skulk... I'm not sure if that's a problem with the sensor (It's a single-sensor, not a dual like the newer ones), the communication to the wireless receiver, or the driver coding...
Regardless... My good old-fashioned, wheeled, balled intellimouse works fine for now...
Oh and regarding hiding in the darkness. Seen lots of skulks do it. I do it too. There are several places on any map. Funny thing is that its all worthless. Because when I am about to go near one of those dark spot I turn on my flashlight! Surprise! Instant kill for me and I have yet to see one marine do this before I did on a map. I actually had one player tell me to turn it off. He was later eaten in the darkness of a hallway.
Taskman
Now as for the first post that started this off:
[FLAME] After reading the post. I must ask if the writer is trying to compensate for a lack of something? [/FLAME]
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