Traitor / Cheater / Both?
MaximumSquid
Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72593Members
Join Date: 2010-07-20 Member: 72593Members
I noticed while comming aliens last night that for multiple games in a row all my cloaked drifters would die within the first minute or two of the game
I build usually 3 more at the start so watching 5-6 of them getting instantly gunned down all over the map cannot be a coincidence
What I can't figure out though is whether someone on my team was feeding information to the Marine side or if it was someone using cheats to either see cloaked units or run a maphack that revealed everything
Either way I'm putting it out there so people can start watching the game a little more closely and maybe write down some Steam IDs
<i>I've certain started. . .</i>
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I build usually 3 more at the start so watching 5-6 of them getting instantly gunned down all over the map cannot be a coincidence
What I can't figure out though is whether someone on my team was feeding information to the Marine side or if it was someone using cheats to either see cloaked units or run a maphack that revealed everything
Either way I'm putting it out there so people can start watching the game a little more closely and maybe write down some Steam IDs
<i>I've certain started. . .</i>
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Obs in area or scan excluded I assume as it related to all your Drifters?
or the commander is using scan on CD
or they saw them flying to their position
and so on ...
calling cheats without any proof is kinda ;)
myb ask a mate to command aliens for the next game and use the spectator mode to proof it b4 u post something like this.
<i>I've certain started. . .</i>
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I have become suspicious of this one as well as I watch parasited marines on my rmap as I hold shift and walk through vents to sneak up on them.... Well some actually track my every movement through a vent without a scan... It does make you suspicious.
Can you link a screenshot of what they look like on your machine?
To me Drifters are virtually impossible to spot, but this does raise some questions as I know from previous experience that the way a person's machine handles transparency can differ wildly
This probably also explains why in the few games that a Khammader gets cloak it seems to be virtually worthless against some marines, but almost flawless against others to the point where you can body block them and they still don't shoot
Example:
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/vHCnn.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/vHCnn.jpg</a>
I sent you a pm. . .
I thought of that and maybe 1 or 2, but not 100% of my drifters for multiple games in a row. . .
I'm probably just overlooking the most obvious solution that someone was just feeding info to a friend or group of friends from spectator
This theory also removes the burden of me needing to find proof since you cannot spectate a spectator. . .
As an added bonus the spectator could join the team they want to lose so that the other team goes +1 or +2 before they return to the RR
<i>(which also was going on along with some other gross sportsmanship, but I don't need to mention everything I saw during those games)</i>
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(Old) ATI driver sometimes made all cloak structs with a little border. (11.9, i'm outdated) ALWAYS.
Something like this (I know, kid drawing, sorry):
<img src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40319604/drifter_border.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Usually the alien-comm moves the drifter to well know locations (above the bigbox at elevator warehouse), and the little ghost effect gives you a chance to see them. In game the drifters are easier to see (a little movement). Also I play with a 1920x1200 and 90% of bright on my monitor and this helps.
actually all he/she would need to do is <i>toggle</i> wireframe.. (I think, haven't tested it because I can't get LAN working)
Come to think of it, this should probably be tied to cheats console command should it not? So people aren't using this in pubs?
It depends a lot on the lighting.
<img src="http://img.flashtux.org/upload/img13303c1b2eax1c2c6859.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Also, as mentioned, it can depend on the graphics card and drivers. I remember a specific game where cloaked people would just end up colored in a single color for me, rather than be translucent with a bit of lighting reflecting off them.
Used to be like that in NS1 as well with Radeon cards where you could change a setting and it would remove all shadows from the game (cloak counted as a shadow).
Original:
<img src="http://img.flashtux.org/img13303c12f637xb4befdab.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
link -> <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/drifter.png/" target="_blank">Original</a>
Paint!
<img src="http://img.flashtux.org/img13303c12f699xf3d2d034.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
link ..-><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/drifterpaint.png/" target="_blank">Paint</a>
I do not know why we can not see the images.. :/
I can spot them really easily... along with cloaked players. Gotta put drifters in corners or behind stuff if you want them to live.
and you goota remember every marine has their own scanner... lmg,pistol,hatchet, and running into them.
I personally scan with my gun all of the time, you know where I'd put the drifter if i was comm.
It is always possible like said before error, cheat, wireframe, or just knows how to find them.
oh cheaters... I feel pity for them.. obviously they suck at the game they gotta cheat most people would just learn how to play rather than cheat, but here we are :/
anyhoo,
that's whatever it is you were talking about for you..
:)