Your In-game Goal.

Nupi · December 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Choose to Win or have fun?</div> Its time discuss which is the most important thing to you and how do you react when you cant achive that for some reason..

Why , you may ask. The deal is some players take the game dead serious and they just have to win on every round, i guess they put aside the fun factor and just agressively start the advance.

Not that is a bad idea at all, but when they start to yell at their team "you n00bs!" etc, it really gets out of control...the word fight will start etc. I'm sure you have seen this by now, on public servers too so how do you feel about it?.

Today at ns_hera i happened to join aliens, it was mid-game about. So, there was one dude yelling to everyone using excessive curse words, so i knew they were losing. He screamed to me also, he seemed to be having a bad day too <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Its everyones own choice how they play the game, of course i love to win (fuzzy feeling) but i like to have fun too, no matter if i'm a marine or alien. I would chose to have FUN instead of always winning. Nobody likes to lose, right?.

Maybe after a huge battle it would be ok to lose because you know you did your best and your team did theirs but are people trying too hard, too much pushing others around so they cant have any fun anymore?.

Fill in your thoughts..if you dare to share <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>.

MMZ_Torak · December 2002

I choose to have fun winning. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

That said, yes I rush as alien. IF the marine team can't defend against it, too bad. I will do my best to have an enjoyable game BUT I will not hold back or give the marines some breathing space for the sake of fun. I once had someone tell me "don't destroy the CC, let them rebuild". I don't think the opposing team is there for me to prune and culitvate into something I can almost eliminate then leave and return 10 mins later to repeat the process. I also do not engage in tatics like "Don't kill the IP, kill everything else". That is just lame. It goes the same for marines. I won't play in the "they only have one hive so lets take over every room on the map before we kill the last hive" games either. That too is lame.

Hang_Loose · December 2002

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Speed_2_Dave · December 2002

Hang Loose, those are awesome websites. I never thought Survivor would be considered cool by me!

KboT · December 2002

I want to have fun!!! I love being pinned down in the base while the enemy Fades lob Acid/Bile Bomb one after another as I hide behind the Armory Ammoing-up and then make a break for the vents and silently crawl thu them asking for the comm to drop me a Jet-Pak and a Comm chair and respwn point so we can get going again while I got Rambo on there hive and gut it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heheheh I love it!!!!!!
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Taskman · December 2002

Winning isn't important to me. Its the challenge. The more my team is losing the more fun it is. If were just slaughtering them like a turkey shoot it gets boring real quick. Fun for me is fighting an intelligent, resourceful, and devious enemy.

Taskman

Hang_Loose · December 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Speed 2 Dave @ Dec 20 2002, 12:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hang Loose, those are awesome websites. I never thought Survivor would be considered cool by me!</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yeah, as soon as I read through those pages, I gained a whole new level of respect for that stupid show... or atleast that the person who won it, as he seemed like a total tactical genius.

Kid-A · December 2002

FUN FUN FUN!!!
I like to win but that doesn't always happen in which case I go for the small victories, like killing a fade.

As for the articles posted by Hang Loose, whats the point in being 'teh winnar' if noone will play you more than once. I've played along side and under clan members who I'd never play with again due to the amount of abuse they gave out. OK they got things done but at what cost.

Also whose better the person that doesn't use cheap tactics and wins or the one that does and wins. I think you know...

Of course what you use should depend on the situation, sure in a clan war be as cheap as you like. But in pubs why bother?

Speed_2_Dave · December 2002

..it also gives me a good reason to be cheap to my friends when I play games with them. "It's not cheap, you just suck!"

or something. But they're all good points, it's like admins banning Siege turrets.

Kid-A · December 2002

I find it interesting it's alot more acceptable to be 'cheap' towards friends. If I beat a friend with a cheap tactic they can expect it next time and think of a counter.

Doombringer · December 2002

Fun is the whole process of working with your team, covering your buddies, building up your base, upgrading, taking resource nodes, fortifying positions, and finally winning. Fun is also having a plan go off without a hitch.. and a win result from it (like a rush), though admitedly is not nearly as fun as the first.

Unfortunately, the only games I've been in where the marines have won have been rush games.. where the entire squad (large games) goes to LMG the first hive to death, or the comm HMG-rushes (small game) and the squad annihilates everything in their path. It's a win, but it's not really fun.. very mechanical. Get IPs, get armory, stock up on ammo, defend against skulk rush, upgrade armory.. wait.. defend more.. armory finishes, distribute HMGs.. go to alien hive, spam health/ammo, kill hive. Beep. Beep. Beep. Game over. Team one has won.

Seems a lot of pub games have come down to this.. both sides rush, one wins out over the other. Not very fun, but slightly rewarding in that it's a win.

It's funny when an alien team gripe about the marine rush, though.. now they know how it feels <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'>

Excellent "play to win" articles up there, too.

Salaman · December 2002

What bugs most people about the marine rush is that you're forced to watch your team get decimated while waiting in a 6 person long queue, and when you finally come out, some spawn camping **obscenity** shoots you before you can even start moving..

skulk rush win = skill, marine rush win = respawn rate(80% of the time), we can take two of their guys for each of our skulks and they still come out ahead.

Personally the funnest(most fun?) games for me are limited HA+HMG or GL vs fades and lerks. A full squad of HA walks over everything short of a herd of onos(and theyre usually just pot shotting 1 hive aliens) while fades/onos vs light marines is just a slaughter. Finding the middle ground is tough, but those evenly pitched battles tend to be the best IMO.

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Shockeh · December 2002

There's 'cheap' and 'exploiting' and sometimes the line can be VERY fine.

Cheapness has nothing to do with it. Adren Parasiting a marine to death? Some might call that cheap, especially if you can find some silly dark corner & sit there doing it.

MMZ_Torak · December 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Adren Parasiting a marine to death? Some might call that cheap, especially if you can find some silly dark corner & sit there doing it. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I call that a stupid marine.

Shockeh · December 2002

You can fire em pretty fast with Adren ya know, AND if the marine thinks he can take you on, generally he doesn't notice the health drop until he's worryingly low.

Paranoia2MB · December 2002

I have fun by winning
You can have some fun in losing, but if you lose too much...it takes away the fun

Morrik · December 2002

I always want to have fun but, I do possess that rotten trait of always wanting to win. However, I've totally destroyed that trait recently. Allow me to explain.

Nobody wants to lose, that's a given fact. But, until you're on the losing side and learn to accept it, then the game will become totally fun and you will never have to worry about losing or winning. What I meant about destorying my trait recently is that I played in a server for about five hours and LOST every round. I played Marines and lost every single game during that five hour span. Now, that may not seem fun at all but, most of the game came down to everybody have HA / Gren Launchers and just holding out until the Aliens rushed with all Onos and Lerks (l33t combination). After I left the server, I realized that prior to that five hour binge, I would always get mad at people for not doing what I said. I almost hated myself after realizing that. It almost seemed that I was possessive and wanted to always win. *Morrik kicks himself*

Yes, it does suck to be on the losing side and totally get owned. But, buck up! The next game will come around and you can try again! If you win or lose, it's the amount of fun and laughter you can get out of the whole thing.

I now laugh at the people who take the game totally serious. It's nothing personal but, it seems funny to me now. Moreover, I really don't want to rub it into anybody's faces since it would label me hypocritical and I don't want that. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Xanieth · December 2002

I like winning, but I play for fun. Even if I'm a marine and I spawn to see a few onos rush through the door, I love to see that sight because it's fun and there's nothing like fighting futilely.

sekdar · December 2002

i play to win. all the time, every time, any game, any sport, any competition, EVERYWHERE.

Achieving absolute victory is fun <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Kotau · December 2002

You might think me odd, or worse, enlightened.

I play for both.

Some games I go in giving orders left and right, trying my hardest to win over all odds. Others, I go in, and work with other people... I get the greatest rush not by giving the orders that win the game, or by getting the aliens to wait and rush en masse, but by being a part of that mass(e). Simply put, I think working together as a team is the most fufilling/fun.

Dont tell me that just one time this has happened to you,
You're a fade, assaulting a marine expansion, and get hit pretty hard, you get on voice and start screaming for a gorge in the area, only to find that he was already there and started healing you...

Its not about the war, it's all about the battles...
I have just as much fun losing as winning, I'm just weird like that or something...

When I used to play RTCWolfienstein, I was ALWAYS the medic... it was the most fun for me.

I would be that gorge.

Selfless is a word that could be used to describe a team player

Kotau

ShuflY · December 2002

I play to win, but playing to win is fun for me. Also, in a game like NS where teamwork is everything, and a single player can effect the whole team's chances of winning, playing to win should be expected of your teammates. If you don't play to win, then team-based games are not for you. It is not fair to the other players on your team if you are not trying to achive victory.

Your In-game Goal.

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