Parasites are now useless
BloodyIron
Join Date: 2009-11-09 Member: 69321Members, Reinforced - Shadow
Join Date: 2009-11-09 Member: 69321Members, Reinforced - Shadow
First, I don't know if parasites are working as intended now, so this is assuming they are.
Second, I know that it is commonly used "are now useless" as a hyperbole, but there actually is no reason I have found to use parasites now.
Currently, parasites do nothing for buildings, they do not show buildings on the minimap, or on the HUD. Furthermore their effect on players is short term, about 30s IIRC.
Previously most people didn't parasite at all. Now, as someone who actually would parasite regularly, I find it as a liability. I have to not only expose myself, but for something temporary now, instead of something permanent.
I don't understand why this was done.
Second, I know that it is commonly used "are now useless" as a hyperbole, but there actually is no reason I have found to use parasites now.
Currently, parasites do nothing for buildings, they do not show buildings on the minimap, or on the HUD. Furthermore their effect on players is short term, about 30s IIRC.
Previously most people didn't parasite at all. Now, as someone who actually would parasite regularly, I find it as a liability. I have to not only expose myself, but for something temporary now, instead of something permanent.
I don't understand why this was done.
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<!--quoteo(post=1961749:date=Aug 12 2012, 12:06 PM:name=james888)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (james888 @ Aug 12 2012, 12:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961749"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The parasite does some damage. Most of the time I would parasite, they go attack just because I was able to kill them faster.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's talking about the, 1 para + 2 bites vs 3 bites to kill a armor lvl0 marine. Also the new place holder shader FX now makes it easier to keep track of the parasite marine.
About the parasite's usefulness, I'm not sure about it myself as I was a fan of the old mechanics. But the new Hive Sight isn't done yet either, so it might serve some different purpose down the line
<!--quoteo(post=1961775:date=Aug 12 2012, 12:39 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Aug 12 2012, 12:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961775"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hive sight is currently disabled. This is not permanent. Welcome to the world of a development where you get to see the game being built inside out :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Considering one of the major functions of parasite is to highlight the target in hive vision, I would think this question answers itself.
About the parasite's usefulness, I'm not sure about it myself as I was a fan of the old mechanics. But the new Hive Sight isn't done yet either, so it might serve some different purpose down the line<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for clarifying my comment
<!--quoteo(post=1961786:date=Aug 12 2012, 01:06 PM:name=Wormeck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wormeck @ Aug 12 2012, 01:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961786"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Considering one of the major functions of parasite is to highlight the target in hive vision, I would think this question answers itself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Next time you should start by asking rather than asserting, if you don't know better.
"First, I don't know if parasites are working as intended now, so this is assuming they are."
<!--quoteo(post=1961793:date=Aug 12 2012, 01:26 PM:name=Khyron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Khyron @ Aug 12 2012, 01:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961793"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Parasites are now <strike>useless</strike> less useful, but as some others have already said, we'll have to wait until the next build to see what's up with hivesight. In the meantime, check out <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Parasite" target="_blank">this</a>.
Next time you should start by asking rather than asserting, if you don't know better.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1961795:date=Aug 12 2012, 01:32 PM:name=Strayan (NS2HD))--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Strayan (NS2HD) @ Aug 12 2012, 01:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961795"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hive sight is integral to the functioning of parasite - As the parasite used to show marines up on the hive site. Until we get hive sight working, Parasite will, unfortunately, be effectively useless. We are sorry about the confusion this has caused... We should have clarified it much sooner.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The assertion to which i was referring was in the subject. It's no biggie.
<!--quoteo(post=1961813:date=Aug 12 2012, 01:52 PM:name=Khyron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Khyron @ Aug 12 2012, 01:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961813"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--coloro:#808080--><span style="color:#808080"><!--/coloro-->>First sentence of my first post<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
The assertion to which i was referring was in the subject. It's no biggie.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
By comparison, how about
Are parasites now useless?
Are parasites supposed to be useless?
What are parasites good for?
With hindsight, would you say these subjects are even <i>more</i> apt for discussion?
<!--quoteo(post=1961823:date=Aug 12 2012, 02:05 PM:name=Khyron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Khyron @ Aug 12 2012, 02:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961823"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The subject came across as 'fact', that you'd 'checked and confirmed'. Of course the disclaimers you made put that in perspective. Perhaps you were just tring to be provocative with the subject, I don't know.
By comparison, how about
Are parasites now useless?
Are parasites supposed to be useless?
What are parasites good for?
With hindsight, would you say these subjects are even <i>more</i> apt for discussion?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->