The Best And The Worst Of Ns...
Larofeticus
Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1764Members
Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1764Members
<div class="IPBDescription">all in one game</div> I just left a game that had been going on for an hour and a half to two hours or so. The map was caged. It was triumphant! But then... slowly.. digressed to something pitiful... and capped off with the lamest thing i've ever seen a player do.
I chose random and i became marine. I had been toying a new strat in my mind, and this was my chance to try it out. See I hear and witness all these marines that rush for two empty hives, or rush the first hive, and almost never consider tech as an option.
So it was my idea that if only secured one hive, then went full out on static upgrades as soon as possible then i would have a quickly and cheaply renewable fighting force, that could be very effective. I monitor the second hive closely with scans, and when i see it go up, i dispatch all my marines there, and we take it out. Cost of this is 20 rp for a nearby phase. No fades. I save up a few hundred rp's like this then splurge on ha's/hmgs/gl's/welders and my suddenly equipped force marches to victory.
I ask politely, then assume the chair. Get up the standard 2 ip's, obs, armory, phase, and a earlier dispatched marine builds phase in generator. (first hive in sewer) I get up a nice turret trinangle in gen. Some rambos that couldn't be convinced to play otherwise build rt's around the map. To stimulate my renewable fighting force i build two additional ip's. I carefully monitor vent, and see the hive is going up there. Get as many marines together as I can (about 4 in a 7 man game <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ), build a phase, and weld the fence. They rush in with upgraded lmg's blazing, and upgraded armor blocking and take out the hive.
This is where things started to go a little wrong. They weren't fast enough, and the aliens got about 6 fades. Marines started to whine, and not fight they way i needed them to. "You are disposible! rush the fade, kill it or die, spawn, and repeat!" It works. Several of the fades are taken out. I've bought some time and I continute saving resources for the equipment splurge. The few guys that will listen (now 3) go past gen to supply tunnel. Yes we'll march in there again, and take that rebuilding hive down again and then we'll have even more time. Wrong. Some lame gorge builds oc's on the supply door and jams it. Ugh. So we stop, build a phase and some siege and an armory and blow it all away. Fades are returning. The hive is back.
I decide now is the time to spend and get a good squad together. Ha's, hmgs, welders, and a gl. The fades attacking main are repulsed, the umbra clouds grenaded and things are looking very good to the marines for a game with only one hive. A few wander off and waster their ha. Crap. Two stick together. With welding and the hmger covering the grenader and all sorts of wonderfulness, they push to the shipping room by vent. Phase goes up. I build a tf in the corner and upgrade it.... It disappears. I try again... it dissapears again... i build it nearby and it finally works. Ugh. The upgraded hmg's and ha's are able to hold back the fades, and get the hive down.
Woo hoo we are going to win... after two hives... i would be proving that tech'ed marines are better than two hive aliens! Things start to break down however... calls to phase back to main are ignored. The alien skulks rush into main and get a foothold... they get the phase there. I drop a CC in supply, and recycle the whole thing. They eat me. Battle ensues and finally one marine is left alive, in the vent hive.... I hear the aliens talking on voice: "Do they have a chair?" We yell and scream to the marine remaining alive "GET IN THE CC AND BUILD AN INFANTRY PORTAL!!!!" He goes to the armory and loads up on ammo.
Finally he gets in and drops one portal. He gets out and begins work. A skulk approaches... it was the most tense moment of my ns career watching him fight that skulk... but he did it he survived and finished the portal. Oh the relief! We spawned, built up In the supply tunnel. We still had a phase to gen and held it. We are set now we just need to get to sewer... but now no marine has any idea what is going on. They run around blindly and shoot any oc they see no matter how wastful of their time it is. I try and get a few siege expeditions near sewer, but can't round up enough marines to make it work. They pick away at gen, which somehow always has some brave soul to garrison who holds firm. Now the skulks are roving and I can't seem to get anyone to guard a rt for anything... the aliens have been doing the only thing they can do now, spamming OC's and DC's... Everywhere. We can still win, we just need a GL. I try to upgrade the armory, and it selects a turret instead. ARRGGGH. I recycle the turret, and try again. It selects a different turret. ARRETGETGASDFDSFS Marines are whining for gl's and health... aliens are whining this is taking forever and they can't win and we can't win and everything some such.
I try and give some jetpacks in hopes someone will get out and get to near sewer to build a phase.... they die in oc spam. We are in a bad stalemate... they can't break the endless horde of upgraded lmg'ers and we can't break through their defenses. Stalemate. I figure i can try anything now, so i drop myself a jetpack, and a phase in sewer vestibule... i'll take that vent between the annex and ventilation.... oops theres an oc in there! So I die.
Ok so we can still do it... we just need to turret and siege crawl.. from vent to sewer.. thats not so far... take the node in vent and it may only talk half an hour... yes we can do it if i can just get a few marines to listen... hmmm ... wait a second... why am I not spawning...
One of the people who had been complaining about the length of the game, jumped into the CC in my abscence, recycled the portals, and gave himself a shotty and ha. He then went off and was brutally struck down by a wall of oc's without accomplishing anything. We had spent two hours fighting, talking, laughing and being a team. I wanted to win. I knew we could win, it would just take time. And then some punk comes along and ruins what could have been a great game. I was, and am still, very angry.
So thats my bitter tale, the best teamwork i've seen from two random players who've never met, and the most aggrivating act of lameness by any selfish brat... all in the same 2 hour span. I guess I don't have a real point or anything... maybe next time you are alien and you start that second hive you'll be a little more cautious, and the next time you are marine you'll wait in spawn a little longer for orders instead of wandering off with the spiffy new hmg... oh well
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I chose random and i became marine. I had been toying a new strat in my mind, and this was my chance to try it out. See I hear and witness all these marines that rush for two empty hives, or rush the first hive, and almost never consider tech as an option.
So it was my idea that if only secured one hive, then went full out on static upgrades as soon as possible then i would have a quickly and cheaply renewable fighting force, that could be very effective. I monitor the second hive closely with scans, and when i see it go up, i dispatch all my marines there, and we take it out. Cost of this is 20 rp for a nearby phase. No fades. I save up a few hundred rp's like this then splurge on ha's/hmgs/gl's/welders and my suddenly equipped force marches to victory.
I ask politely, then assume the chair. Get up the standard 2 ip's, obs, armory, phase, and a earlier dispatched marine builds phase in generator. (first hive in sewer) I get up a nice turret trinangle in gen. Some rambos that couldn't be convinced to play otherwise build rt's around the map. To stimulate my renewable fighting force i build two additional ip's. I carefully monitor vent, and see the hive is going up there. Get as many marines together as I can (about 4 in a 7 man game <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ), build a phase, and weld the fence. They rush in with upgraded lmg's blazing, and upgraded armor blocking and take out the hive.
This is where things started to go a little wrong. They weren't fast enough, and the aliens got about 6 fades. Marines started to whine, and not fight they way i needed them to. "You are disposible! rush the fade, kill it or die, spawn, and repeat!" It works. Several of the fades are taken out. I've bought some time and I continute saving resources for the equipment splurge. The few guys that will listen (now 3) go past gen to supply tunnel. Yes we'll march in there again, and take that rebuilding hive down again and then we'll have even more time. Wrong. Some lame gorge builds oc's on the supply door and jams it. Ugh. So we stop, build a phase and some siege and an armory and blow it all away. Fades are returning. The hive is back.
I decide now is the time to spend and get a good squad together. Ha's, hmgs, welders, and a gl. The fades attacking main are repulsed, the umbra clouds grenaded and things are looking very good to the marines for a game with only one hive. A few wander off and waster their ha. Crap. Two stick together. With welding and the hmger covering the grenader and all sorts of wonderfulness, they push to the shipping room by vent. Phase goes up. I build a tf in the corner and upgrade it.... It disappears. I try again... it dissapears again... i build it nearby and it finally works. Ugh. The upgraded hmg's and ha's are able to hold back the fades, and get the hive down.
Woo hoo we are going to win... after two hives... i would be proving that tech'ed marines are better than two hive aliens! Things start to break down however... calls to phase back to main are ignored. The alien skulks rush into main and get a foothold... they get the phase there. I drop a CC in supply, and recycle the whole thing. They eat me. Battle ensues and finally one marine is left alive, in the vent hive.... I hear the aliens talking on voice: "Do they have a chair?" We yell and scream to the marine remaining alive "GET IN THE CC AND BUILD AN INFANTRY PORTAL!!!!" He goes to the armory and loads up on ammo.
Finally he gets in and drops one portal. He gets out and begins work. A skulk approaches... it was the most tense moment of my ns career watching him fight that skulk... but he did it he survived and finished the portal. Oh the relief! We spawned, built up In the supply tunnel. We still had a phase to gen and held it. We are set now we just need to get to sewer... but now no marine has any idea what is going on. They run around blindly and shoot any oc they see no matter how wastful of their time it is. I try and get a few siege expeditions near sewer, but can't round up enough marines to make it work. They pick away at gen, which somehow always has some brave soul to garrison who holds firm. Now the skulks are roving and I can't seem to get anyone to guard a rt for anything... the aliens have been doing the only thing they can do now, spamming OC's and DC's... Everywhere. We can still win, we just need a GL. I try to upgrade the armory, and it selects a turret instead. ARRGGGH. I recycle the turret, and try again. It selects a different turret. ARRETGETGASDFDSFS Marines are whining for gl's and health... aliens are whining this is taking forever and they can't win and we can't win and everything some such.
I try and give some jetpacks in hopes someone will get out and get to near sewer to build a phase.... they die in oc spam. We are in a bad stalemate... they can't break the endless horde of upgraded lmg'ers and we can't break through their defenses. Stalemate. I figure i can try anything now, so i drop myself a jetpack, and a phase in sewer vestibule... i'll take that vent between the annex and ventilation.... oops theres an oc in there! So I die.
Ok so we can still do it... we just need to turret and siege crawl.. from vent to sewer.. thats not so far... take the node in vent and it may only talk half an hour... yes we can do it if i can just get a few marines to listen... hmmm ... wait a second... why am I not spawning...
One of the people who had been complaining about the length of the game, jumped into the CC in my abscence, recycled the portals, and gave himself a shotty and ha. He then went off and was brutally struck down by a wall of oc's without accomplishing anything. We had spent two hours fighting, talking, laughing and being a team. I wanted to win. I knew we could win, it would just take time. And then some punk comes along and ruins what could have been a great game. I was, and am still, very angry.
So thats my bitter tale, the best teamwork i've seen from two random players who've never met, and the most aggrivating act of lameness by any selfish brat... all in the same 2 hour span. I guess I don't have a real point or anything... maybe next time you are alien and you start that second hive you'll be a little more cautious, and the next time you are marine you'll wait in spawn a little longer for orders instead of wandering off with the spiffy new hmg... oh well
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Comments
Still, it sounds like that if only everyone had followed orders, the game could've been finished sooner, with you as the victor. You're right, I almost NEVER see marines doing much upgrading, it's usually all about the rush.
we could make it so you couldn't recycle the inf portal, but then if you placed it in a bad spot that got everyone stuck, you'd be screwed.
could make it so only 1 person could enter the CC a game .. but .. ugh - I can just imagine the problems there
the only thing we can really do is hope the majority of people have enough honor and common decency to play like your supposed to ..
we could make it so you couldn't recycle the inf portal, but then if you placed it in a bad spot that got everyone stuck, you'd be screwed.
could make it so only 1 person could enter the CC a game .. but .. ugh - I can just imagine the problems there
the only thing we can really do is hope the majority of people have enough honor and common decency to play like your supposed to .. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
...How about you can't recycle the inf portal if it's the ONLY ONE left?
heh I've seen EGC do that.
Other than that this game rules.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the only thing we can really do is hope the majority of people have enough honor and common decency to play like your supposed to .. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If there is one thing I've learned from online games, its that there will ALWAYS be lamers. They are a fact of life. The thing to do is is reduce their ability to be lame without ruining the game itself. One thing I'd like to see server-wise instead of "admin_vote_kick"with which they can just come back until the next vote, how about "admin_vote_ban" for 1 hour? Then if someone gets too many of these they get banned for even longer.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...How about you can't recycle the inf portal if it's the ONLY ONE left? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, great solution! I've always thought recycling the inf portals to quit is stupid, as it lets one person decide for the whole team to quit.