Natural Selection 2 News Update - NS2 Build 220 released

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  • deaglecrazydeaglecrazy Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73106Members
    edited September 2012
    Yay update time!!! :D

    Gonna try this sucker out once its all updated, feedback to come
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  • LocklearLocklear [nexzil]kerrigan Join Date: 2012-05-01 Member: 151403Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Yay new build:)
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  • snooggumssnooggums Join Date: 2009-09-18 Member: 68821Members
    Smooth, and I like the rookie feature.

    The new LMG sound comes across like a baby Exo along with the high pitched whine. :sadface:
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  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited September 2012
    Look forwards to the Lerk changes, but Exos are going to get smashed by BB now. Glad to see Carapace is better, but I'm worried about the decreased Marine upgrade cost.
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  • RockyMarcRockyMarc Join Date: 2009-11-24 Member: 69519Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Man always at work when the updates come out :(
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  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    Skulk nerf :(
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  • FlipperFlipper Join Date: 2012-08-08 Member: 155120Members
    VSync reverts to off when toggled on?

    Anyone else get this?
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Members
    Logged in, saw I was green, saw I had 48 fps, logged out.
    Maybe another time...
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  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1979946:date=Sep 19 2012, 02:22 AM:name=internetexplorer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (internetexplorer @ Sep 19 2012, 02:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979946"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Logged in, saw I was green, saw I had 48 fps, logged out.
    Maybe another time...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hahaha. Wow...just...wow.

    Making this game for you guys is sooo much fun sometimes :p

    --Cory
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  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    edited September 2012
    ummm

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Changed arms lab upgrades to cost 15/25/35.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Marine weapons and armor research costs reduced from 20/30/40 to 10/20/30.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    which is it?

    /edit also, ignore him guys, i love the constant updates and interaction, so do a lot of others
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  • MadTreeMadTree Join Date: 2012-09-04 Member: 157608Members
    Is anyone else getting worse performance this build?

    Also,

    + like the better Lerk spike accuracy
    + like how Skulk walljumping actually works now
    + like the new "scan" effect for aliens
    - dislike the new alien HUD
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  • BicsumBicsum Join Date: 2012-02-27 Member: 147596Members, Reinforced - Gold
    I like the new rifle sounds, but the level 3 muzzle might be a bit too bright.
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  • Laosh'RaLaosh'Ra Join Date: 2011-12-09 Member: 137232Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Logged in, saw I was green<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    everyone starts as rookie now as there is no backtracking for your game-hours. you can simply turn it off.

    in case anyone is wondering about
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Changed arms lab upgrades to cost <b>15/25/35</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Marine weapons and armor research costs reduced from 20/30/40 to <b>10/20/30</b>. Weapons/Armor1 time increased by 20 seconds, Weapons/Armor2 increased by 10 seconds (reducing increased res. usage of marine economy and promoting dual Arms Labs).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the 15/25/35 is correct for rescost.
    times are now 80/100/120.

    i also found a change in SporesDustCloudRadius, it is increased from 1.5 to 2.0

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lerk Celerity effect reduced a bit, Fade Celerity bumped up a bit.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    in detail, this is 0.25->0.2 for lerk and 0.35->0.45 for fade.

    minor thing: EXO now gives +20 score instead of +15.



    looks like a great patch, gonna try it out now.
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  • RockyMarcRockyMarc Join Date: 2009-11-24 Member: 69519Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1979953:date=Sep 19 2012, 10:33 AM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Sep 19 2012, 10:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979953"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hahaha. Wow...just...wow.

    Making this game for you guys is sooo much fun sometimes :p

    --Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    We still <3 you guys.
    Patch every week (pretty much), damn fine work I say.
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  • elodeaelodea Editlodea Join Date: 2009-06-20 Member: 67877Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Great patch UWE and you know i don't say that often...

    Chock-full of great changes including the following outstanding ones.
    -Slowdown with Carapace removed (drawbacks are implicit in choices, not within traits themselves).
    -Tightened Lerk spike accuracy (supposed to be in 219).
    -Adjusted walljump vertical speed to be closer to b216.
    -Adrenaline upgrade now increases total energy pool by 200% instead of energy regeneration.
    -Recycling structures now count as inactive.

    Concerned about
    -bilebomb/exo
    -5tres shade/crag
    -very cheap armslab upgrades
    but we shall see.

    Great patch again. I think the rookie system is going to prove to be very well implemented. No changes to gameplay - simply relying on the social pressure of being that "non-green" player.
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  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    Thanks for making adrenaline useless guys.
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  • SatanLovesYOuSatanLovesYOu Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28410Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    So bilebomb is basically acid rocket now. At least against exos.
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  • KopikatKopikat Join Date: 2012-09-06 Member: 158170Members
    edited September 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1979962:date=Sep 18 2012, 07:41 PM:name=ChickenOfWar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChickenOfWar @ Sep 18 2012, 07:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979962"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks for making adrenaline useless guys.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah, double energy is so useless. Game ruined. /sarcasm

    Edit: Should expound on this a bit. When was the last time anyone ever picked anything but Adrenaline (provided that Adren was up)?
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  • snooggumssnooggums Join Date: 2009-09-18 Member: 68821Members
    edited September 2012
    Skulk bite reduction has made me useless as a skulk, I went from even K/D to 0/27 tonight :(
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  • deaglecrazydeaglecrazy Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73106Members
    edited September 2012
    -Ok played a bit now and daaaamn the skulk is completely worthless now, thats crazy! -20 percent for the skulk bite range is suuuch a huge amount :'( adren seems worthless now as well ><

    -Also when you bite a blue power node(w/e u wanna call it) it just keeps popping up -0 (for the damage) every time you bite

    -Not sure if this was part of the update or just a coincidence but I connected to the server a lot faster than usual :P

    EDIT:

    Just wanna say besides that theres tons of great updates here, I remember playing alpha (although I sometimes wish I didn't lol) and its amazing how great this game has become, can't wait for the 1.0 release
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  • BurdockBurdock Join Date: 2012-08-27 Member: 156553Members
    Yeah - i can say about everyone has seen a fps drop of 10-50%, and some strange screen glitches!
    Just fyi something went wrong, other then that all great stuff XD!!
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  • VirsoulVirsoul Join Date: 2012-05-13 Member: 151977Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Onos
    I can't bite anything.
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  • stinghawkstinghawk Join Date: 2005-07-30 Member: 57159Members
    ive only played marines in the new patch but i must say i LOVE the draw damage feature omg its so goooooooooooood. also thank god for reduced upgrade costs. it was always so difficult to balance between map control and upgrades! in NS1 in any body (32 slot servers) i could easily have map control and do upgrades simultaneously. in ns2 i felt so constricted between picking one or the other. i like.
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  • GarfuGarfu Join Date: 2012-02-12 Member: 145170Members
    Good patch, good job. The draw damage thing is implemented amazingly well, love it. Mostly positive changes so far.
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  • Know painKnow pain Join Date: 2012-09-04 Member: 157674Members
    So you fu**ers were the reason my steam crashed! New patch haven't played yet but I'll love to find all the new exploits I can, since I best when drunk hur hur. Updates/patches are coming faster and faster now but something I have learned from this game 1 patch fixes 2 things and brakes another.
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  • IndustryIndustry Esteemed Gentleman Join Date: 2010-07-13 Member: 72344Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    Really liking the changes so far. Adrenaline on Fades definitely feels way less ridiculous which is a good thing. Plus the fact that it doesn't just overwrite the shift passive is kinda nice. It is also nice to have the faster regen start time back. The only thing that worries me was the 20% skulk bite range nerf. I don't think performance is tight enough to draw it back in that much. Perhaps a 10% reduction would have been better to start with.
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  • Know painKnow pain Join Date: 2012-09-04 Member: 157674Members
    edited September 2012
    When clicking the "Name" section when looking for a server doesn't do anything. "Broken".

    Woah do not alt+tab when looking at the servers list, can I say glitch or I will say every server appears in the same line.
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  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    You guys do realize that the first time you load up a new build it will have low frame rate at first because its still precaching.... Just play around for 10 minutes then restart your client and you will see a noticeable improvement.
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  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES&#33; FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS&#33; Australia Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff
    Can we have a useful form of turrets back next build please? still a useless venture, cheap or not.
    Turrets should not be offensive, marines have absolutely no defensive capabilities atm and with their stats, they wont contribute much to an end game scenario (i.e turtles)
    NAmely because the marines do that, increase marine spawn time and increase turret usability please.
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  • ChickenOfWarChickenOfWar Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15352Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1979970:date=Sep 18 2012, 11:04 PM:name=Kopikat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kopikat @ Sep 18 2012, 11:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1979970"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, double energy is so useless. Game ruined. /sarcasm

    Edit: Should expound on this a bit. When was the last time anyone ever picked anything but Adrenaline (provided that Adren was up)?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Uh, yeah. It is useless. You'd have to be a complete fool now not to take celerity in every case.
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