A simple question...

ToadvineToadvine Join Date: 2012-10-15 Member: 162405Members
I know the release is just around the corner and I will find out the answer to this soon enough but after reading a great deal on the forums I wanted to ask this.

If I greatly enjoyed ns1 will I greatly enjoy ns2?

It's a simple question but most likely will have complicated answers, and I want to know if you vets enjoy the game and think a former player will too. I know forums for any game tend to highlight mostly flaws in game so I wanted to have a thread with pros as well as cons.

So will I have fun in ns2? Will you? Why/why not? What to you love/hate about ns2 when compared with the original?

(I haven't played beta, but I have preordered)

Comments

  • kastkast Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22791Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    yes, you'll love it
  • CodeineCodeine Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75155Members
    No, you will be frustrated and bored and forced to play aliens every round because of team stacking.
  • GirTurkeyGirTurkey Join Date: 2005-03-03 Member: 43040Members
    Yes, it's awesome. It is not perfect, but you have to remember the NS1 you know and love changed a lot over the years too. NS2 will get there too. With the cash infusion they will get when it truly gets released, you can expect UWE to be able to put a lot more resources in to making the game and even better experience.

    Watch some twitch.tv casted matches to get yourself pumped up and make sure you learn some basic changes before you come in.

    Then, make an account at ensl.org and do some gathers.
  • WackOhWackOh Join Date: 2004-07-25 Member: 30100Members
    Yes and no

    It takes a while to have to accept that this is a NEW GAME, it isnt simply NS1 with revamped graphics.
    If you hold onto all that made NS1 great you will find it quite hard to enjoy NS2

    But learn and adapt to the new features and gameplay mechanics (though a lot of it still needs tweaking imho) and you will come to like what UWE have produced

    For me personally, its still possible to have great matches and plenty of fun, but in the back of my mind i am always holding onto the even greater matches i have had from NS1

    With all that though, yes you can enjoy NS2 if you enjoyed NS1 =]
  • Onii-chanOnii-chan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7164Members
    Yes, you're going to like it quite a lot.

    It still a diamond in the rough with some balance issues, but still miles ahead of where NS1 was on launch, 10 year ago.
    I'd say it's somewhere between 2.0 and 3.0.
  • KhyronKhyron Join Date: 2012-02-02 Member: 143308Members
    A simple question gets a simple answer... "It depends". :D

    To elaborate slightly, it depends on your expectations.

    The biggest factor in that question is that you have aged, probably 7 to 10 years. If you were in your early teens when you played NS1, your expectations about games were probably pretty rudimentary. If you were in your 20s or older, your expectations have probably stayed in line with the advancements made to games in general.

    Also, some aspects of game development in general have matured a <i>lot</i> over the past 10 years, not just the technical improvements, but stuff like gaming psychology (rewards) and level design. So at some level you have to compare what you'd rather be playing across genres. That's comparison is made doubly tricky because although the core idea of a fps/rts hybrid seems to have a lot to offer, there haven't been many titles. It's hard to tell what works and what doesn't (compared to sports sims for example). The genre is still pretty immature.

    For the most part, gameplay is the same. If you were strongly attached to a particular mechanic, it could go either way (skulks still parasite & 2 bite kill in the early game; arcs are quite different to siege cannons).

    Another factor that brings me back to NS2 is the depth of gameplay and mastery. Some elitists might scoff, but for me there's a huge scope for mastery in NS2. If you're just plain really, really good at FPS, the importance of the RTS stuff crumbles. If you're like me, regularly outclassed by better twitch players, you can compensate through the RTS elements. Situational awareness, strategic counter-attacks, resource manipulation etc.

    Lastly, there are many roles to play and learn so NS2 has longevity in that sense. Combined with that, we're always playing 'catch up' to the moving goal posts offered through each new patch, and that's likely to continue post-release.
  • ImbalanxdImbalanxd Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104581Members
    Depends how much you enjoyed it, and how much of an idiot you are/are not. If you rate it higher than Shawshank Redemption on IMDB and still like to play it with bots for 5 hours a day, then chances are you won't like it because *GASP* it isn't a carbon copy of the original.

    If you liked the mechanics behind the first game, and the details which set it apart from other games, then yes, you will like it.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    I don't know. Play your pre-order on October 31st and find out.
  • Squirreli_Squirreli_ Join Date: 2012-04-25 Member: 151046Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    NS1 was for me simply the best game I've ever played. That being said, after the scene practically died I dropped the game, played other games and let NS1 become mostly just a memory for me. NS2 regularily frustrates me with flaws and bugs (as a beta is bound to do), so it does not reach up to the rosy memories of NS1, but still Steam says I've played NS2 for 600 hours. If I didn't like the game I think I might have gotten fed up at some point ;)
  • PowerfuryOAPowerfuryOA Join Date: 2012-03-07 Member: 148314Members
    It's a complete different game. If you are thinking you are going to jump into an updated NS1, you're going to be in for a rude awakening the second you see infestation and cysts. Ever single life form plays different than the life forms of NS1. Marines also play completely different as Marines have personal resources to buy weapons. There is *a lot* less diversity in NS2 than there was in NS1. Games still feel more static and there is less freedom (can't relocate to double, can't build yourself a nice little Marine/Alien base in vents).

    In the end, I was shocked by the amount of changes that there were from NS1. I loved NS1 and I probably have about 500 hours logged into NS2.
  • MangoMango Join Date: 2012-10-11 Member: 162061Members
    One thing I do miss from NS1 is gorges helping planting RT's too. Gorges had more comm like features in NS1. That is one thing I notice different.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1992179:date=Oct 16 2012, 11:33 AM:name=Mango)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mango @ Oct 16 2012, 11:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992179"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One thing I do miss from NS1 is gorges helping planting RT's too. Gorges had more comm like features in NS1. That is one thing I notice different.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In a good team they actually still do, gorges can speed up building.
  • B1llyB1lly Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26653Members
    *

    i think gorges are (in pubs at least) underrated.
    if you go fast 2nd hive, they are really helpful.
    if you need res fast, they are really important.

    I often go gorge after the 1st scouting as skulk to help commander. This way, the res tower is built faster, thus helping all the team to evolve early. then if needed I change to skulk again: the price is not so high, like 2 welders if i'm not wrong.
  • XariusXarius Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24630Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    It may not be as great (yet) as NS 1, but none the less it takes a lot of what made the original so great, so if you're a big fan of NS 1 it's very likely you will like NS 2 just as well. And even if you don't, there's always NS2C, an NS 1 mod for NS 2. So either way, you'll get to enjoy NS 2 whichever way you want. Get it :)
  • bERt0rbERt0r Join Date: 2005-03-23 Member: 46181Members
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1992178:date=Oct 16 2012, 10:29 AM:name=PowerfuryOA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PowerfuryOA @ Oct 16 2012, 10:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992178"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In the end, I was shocked by the amount of changes that there were from NS1. I loved NS1 and I probably have about 500 hours logged into NS2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I would be cautious with this kind of statement. I played Diablo 3 >100 h and now i hate it because it is such a letdown compared to it's predecessor. It is not just because of the RMA but also because they cut so many cool features that were there in D2.
    I dont expect NS2 to turn out similarly, after all UWE is doing excessive beta testing.
  • swalkswalk Say hello to my little friend. Join Date: 2011-01-20 Member: 78384Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1992085:date=Oct 16 2012, 04:37 AM:name=Codeine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codeine @ Oct 16 2012, 04:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992085"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No, you will be frustrated and bored and forced to play aliens every round because of team stacking.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's no different from NS1.
  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    If you played comp, you'll get frustrated as soon novelty wears off, if not you wont be tell the difference.

    It is going to mix of fun, hope and frustration regardless.
  • ToadvineToadvine Join Date: 2012-10-15 Member: 162405Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1992214:date=Oct 16 2012, 07:01 AM:name=Xarius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xarius @ Oct 16 2012, 07:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992214"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It may not be as great (yet) as NS 1, but none the less it takes a lot of what made the original so great, so if you're a big fan of NS 1 it's very likely you will like NS 2 just as well. And even if you don't, there's always NS2C, an NS 1 mod for NS 2. So either way, you'll get to enjoy NS 2 whichever way you want. Get it :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Great point, and yeah I saw ns2c, ill have to keep an eye on it. I hope in time the bugs/annoyances get ironed out.

    Great comments so far though guys, Im getting a pretty well rounded/wide view of peoples thoughts.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    I played NS1 A LOT and loved it, but it didn't start out that way. There were many changes that got it to its glory.
    Now NS2 it is a fun game but not yet to were NS1 was. But it is still a work in progress and hopefully will because just as great if not greater than NS1.
  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    I thought ns1 was considerably better. But I still enjoy NS2, if not so much the last couple of patches.
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