Graphical issues

kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
I'd like to start by apologizing, as I don't know if this is the right area, but I'm pretty desperate. I installed NS2 (yay!), and upon joining a server, most models minus the backdrop of the map are either completely seethrough :Read invisible:, or completely black. I can see the letters for each team, and certain lights, and even a water fall on one of the maps ready rooms, however everything else including player models are completely missing.

I've attempted to verify file integrity, which came out 100% fine.
I've changed all manner of settings, and resolutions to no avail.

I have an ATI 4870, with a 3.2 dualcore hyperthreaded, with 4 gigs of ram. So I don't believe I'm unable to play this game, and my gfx card is up to date, so im unsure what the problem is.

Suggestions please? I've waited a long time like a lot of people have, and I just want to play D:

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  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited October 2012
    This isn't the right area, but we should be able to help. Are you running the latest ATI drivers?

    NS2 doesn't use OpenGL, right guys?
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    Indeed I am up to date on all the ATI drivers, I'm actually in the process of reinstalling them right now, so I'll let you know how that worked out in a few minutes! Thanks for the quick reply
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited October 2012
    My first instinct is to say that this is an ATI compatibility issue; most of the complaints like this that I've seen across many games turn out to be because of that. As far as I know, though, we have plenty of ATI users on the Playtesting team, so any wide-spread compatibility bugs should have been noticed and addressed before shipping.
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    Are there others with this same problem? Or just similarities
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2001729:date=Oct 30 2012, 08:21 PM:name=kombine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kombine @ Oct 30 2012, 08:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2001729"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are there others with this same problem? Or just similarities<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hard to say for both, but statistically speaking, probably.
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    Its actually finishing uninstalling now, I'll reboot, and install the latest ATI drivers I already downloaded, and give it another go. More back when I figure out if it changed anything.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    If the problem persists, open your console with ~ and look for errors. Post any that you find here.

    Your log file from your last game session is in %AppData\Roaming\Natural Selection 2 as log.txt.
  • HimselfHimself Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164747Members
    edited October 2012
    I was just in a game, and had a problem where certain graphics weren't loading - and I checked the console, and it was saying invalid format, and they seemed to be .dds files.

    I also had a problem where pressing "esc" makes me crash.

    Edit: This*

    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/unitstatus_alien.dds' (invalid format)
    Error: Couldn't open file ''
    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/black_screen_borders.dds' (invalid format)
    Chat Team 2 - Himself: hallo.
    Chat Team 2 - Himself: wtf
    Chat Team 2 - Himself: ogod
    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/alien_commander_textures.dds' (invalid format)
    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/alien_commander_tabs.dds' (invalid format)
    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/health_circle.dds' (invalid format)
    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/health_circle_alien.dds' (invalid format)
    Main Menu Initialized at Version: 227
    Error: Couldn't load 'ui/menu/logo.dds' (invalid format)
    Error: Sound 'common/menu_loop' couldn't be loaded (Not enough memory or resources. )
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    edited October 2012
    I'm going to be posting a few pictures in a minute here, but in the console it gave me a lot of "Could not open .model" errors. Including the the floors and what not. Not sure whats causing that.

    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3021-50-10-57.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...21-50-10-57.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3021-48-11-98.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...21-48-11-98.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3021-50-08-89.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...21-50-08-89.jpg</a>

    And here is the errors in the console it gave me exactly
    <img src="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3021-50-19-27.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • elodeaelodea Editlodea Join Date: 2009-06-20 Member: 67877Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    try turning off forced aa. Put it to application specific.
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    That fixed it! The forced AA was messing something up! good call, but I have to ask, what made you think it was that?
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    I have another question, and to prevent another thread, I figured i'd just ask it here. Since i've been in game, I notice random fps drops, and I couldn't figure out why.

    I wouldn't look around, and it would go from 50 fps to 17 randomly, then shoot back up. I looked in console and found quite a few errors, and was wondering if someone could tell me why they're there and if I can fix them somehow.

    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3022-20-07-35.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...22-20-07-35.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3022-20-34-93.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...22-20-34-93.jpg</a>
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    Half of those are PhysX errors. Why is NS2 trying to run that on an ATI card?
  • elodeaelodea Editlodea Join Date: 2009-06-20 Member: 67877Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2001836:date=Oct 31 2012, 01:11 PM:name=kombine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kombine @ Oct 31 2012, 01:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2001836"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have another question, and to prevent another thread, I figured i'd just ask it here. Since i've been in game, I notice random fps drops, and I couldn't figure out why.

    I wouldn't look around, and it would go from 50 fps to 17 randomly, then shoot back up. I looked in console and found quite a few errors, and was wondering if someone could tell me why they're there and if I can fix them somehow.

    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3022-20-07-35.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...22-20-07-35.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/kombin3/ns22012-10-3022-20-34-93.jpg" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/komb...22-20-34-93.jpg</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The ambient sound errors are normal and should not affect your fps. I have not seen those particle errors before though so they're probably related to build 1.0 - whether they are the cause of the fps drops i'm not sure.

    However, if you're getting fps drops/spikes, one good diagnostic is net_stats in console ~. Check to make sure the server tickrate is stable (30 ticks), and check to make sure that fps drops arn't happening because of choke going above 0%. If these are fine, i think its more probably a bug and theres nothing you can really do except bug report it and wait for a patch :(.

    The aa bug is old old (when ns2 was still in early beta over a year ago), and it looks like it's still around :p.
  • youwooyouwoo Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164785Members
    i also having that problem with TS, even when i turn off AA also having that problem. any help ?
  • kombinekombine Join Date: 2012-10-30 Member: 164671Members
    I find that when I disable multi-core it seems to help with that fps dropping issue, although i'm still not sure why it happens.
    As the game goes on it stops all together, and i saw a good question, why is physx trying to run on my ATI Card?
  • Highlander92Highlander92 Join Date: 2012-10-13 Member: 162257Members
    I'm having similar issues actually. not sure what the cause is but no matter what settings i have it on, there are certain sections of the map where it is see through and some objects are invisible. glad im not the only one.
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