Aged players vs. new players
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Join Date: 2012-09-04 Member: 157674Members
Join Date: 2012-09-04 Member: 157674Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Lets watch dvds again</div>Within the first 2 hours new players just ruined my game play. I have over 600+ hours on this game (many I know have 1k or more) but with the “wtf†and “what the†and “how†and “what’s this do†with the new players, it kills me. It’s no longer about smurfing competitive players vs. the others, it’s about “go there and shoot that or bite that.â€
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So don't play it if you don't like it. Go do some PUGs, organize some competitive scrims, or play something else.
Shockingly, the release of a game is often accompanied by a multitude of players seeking to learn it. I don't know what you expect UWE or anyone else to do about it, nor why they should care.
The game got released a few hours ago now. you cant expect everyone to pick it up without any questions.
Help them out the best, and wait till they understand the game more to become competitive players.
Don ruin the fun of a new game for others.
Don ruin the fun of a new game for others.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just expect each game to be a learning session and just muck around.
A lot of the new comers ive seen are old NS1 players
I spend more time explaining the difference between ns1 vs ns2
This is a joke right... You cannot be serious...
- Brags about his "playtime" - Check
- Complains that new players who are the foundation of NS2's survival are new - Check
- Thinks he is good when he is probably worst than most new players - Check
Seriously, help them out, be nice, or play on a server that Isnt "new player friendly". This thread makes my brain hurt.
When I command, I encourage new players to simply hit the H key if they do not know what to do, I always have something for somebody to do and I will just manually tell them where to go if they are confused. It isn't hard.
Way to handle your liquor, mate.
Enjoy your unsually high KD ratios while you can. Pretty soon I'll be online to crush you >:)
1.) Don't alienate newer players.
I'll go ahead and assume you've been playing most of the Beta by now and just say how deplorable it is to expect new players to pick up all these techniques that have been developed throughout that process. You shouldn't hold them to the same standard you hold Beta players, nor should you be hateful to them because of that. The way this game is developed will rest on the shoulders of these players, you cannot have a long lasting game that is based around solely elitist playstyle.
You're drunk so I really don't think you'll have the capacity to respond in something I'll find interesting or worth discussing further but do take what I said and think about it.
Give them a chance, it's been less than a day.
Sure, they had trouble responding to "phase through to (X) location as it's going down" or "everybody do a coordinated push on (X) location and get the hive down". I found most people didn't use the prototype lab either (probably weren't aware you could buy things from there) so I had to drop jps and exos manually.
But all in all, as long as I gave an instruction, at least some people would be proactive, try and figure out what I wanted (with little experience), and tried to follow those orders to the best of their ability to understand it. Eventually, a marine team consisting entirely of new players, confined to Terminal, was able to push out, and kill all the hives. Kudos to all the new players giving it their best shot and trying to grasp the essentials of a game with a very steep learning curve.
Sure, they had trouble responding to "phase through to (X) location as it's going down" or "everybody do a coordinated push on (X) location and get the hive down". I found most people didn't use the prototype lab either (probably weren't aware you could buy things from there) so I had to drop jps and exos manually.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
To be honest, Marines are perhaps the easiest.
Zing!
I kid, I kid.
Not really.
But I'm not surprised clans are team stacking already vs geenies either.
Zing!
I kid, I kid.
Not really.
But I'm not surprised clans are team stacking already vs geenies either.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't say that clans were doing that. It was just all white vs all green. I don't think any of the white players were clan members, and there's every possibility that some of the white players were new that day (just had played long enough for their name to turn white).
I just expected a lot more people to need babysitting and hand-holding.
Ah okay. Nevermind then. Was still good to see teamwork out of new players though! Even if it was likely against more new players.
edit: actually, I think I noticed the entire alien team was white when I was in the ready room. As that's why I joined marines in the first place. We did get one or two more white names as the game reached a conclusion though.
edit2: actually, i'm wrong. All names are white in ready room
Pro tip: Play on modded servers. They're filtered by default, many new players will never touch them.
I play the game with no add-ons and no scripts/macros. And while I will never get a high k/d ratio most players know my name (evil mines in vents, camper in vents or god damn that gorge).
Yes. I spent most of my time this evening helping new players learn how to play, especially in my server "Garfu's Pub Stomp (noobs only)"
Anyway, my GPU died, but that didn't stop me from joining the launch day festivities.
I just finished a round (half of it with bEEb) commanding aliens.
Besides beeb, the entire rest of the team were green newbies.
From what I can tell, they're competent players, they just don't know wtf is going on, and all the NS lingo.
We answered as many questions as we could, but when it came down to attacking the marine base, they simply had no idea how to get there.
Eventually, I decided to Fade and lead the team from the front, instead of just sitting in the hive and setting a waypoint.
This did the trick, as the players were able to follow me into the marine base, and then wreak havoc and ultimately win. Once they got into the base, they were great - it was GETTING them there in the first place.
Takes a bit of patience with newbies, but guide them toward the right direction and they'll be just fine.
Stacking against them does nothing but tarnish the game's reputation.
Just be helpful instead of being a jerk and the game is still a ton of fun. You couldn't play this game worth a damn your first time, either.