Why do you hate left-handed people? :p

starbaronstarbaron Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42105Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">I can't bind the L key for anything.</div>I can't bind anything to the L key.

This is kind of a huge problem for left-handed players, as most of us use PL;' for movement or OKL; (instead of WASD for you righties out there).

Are other people having this problem? Can you bind your L key to anything?

Thanks!

If this isn't a universal problem I'll post more info about my specific system.
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  • Laosh'RaLaosh'Ra Join Date: 2011-12-09 Member: 137232Members
    that's an interesting keyboard layout. i am left-handed too but i learned to use my pc like a right-handed person (you need both hands anyway, right?).

    but as for your issue: have you checked all your other binds, maybe another one is overlapping?
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  • MaGicBushMaGicBush Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10378Members
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2001913:date=Oct 30 2012, 09:45 PM:name=Laosh'Ra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laosh'Ra @ Oct 30 2012, 09:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2001913"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->that's an interesting keyboard layout. i am left-handed too but i learned to use my pc like a right-handed person (you need both hands anyway, right?).

    but as for your issue: have you checked all your other binds, maybe another one is overlapping?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Same here lol, I just use the default layout. It's a right-handed world, I learned to cope with it because of my job.
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  • SuperflySuperfly Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3485Members, Constellation
    I believe that additional bind options will be coming at a later date.
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  • 1stToast1stToast Join Date: 2007-12-02 Member: 63067Members
    I'm left handed also and have to play as a wrong hander. That's why my stats are so bad. ;-}
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  • Heroman117Heroman117 Join Date: 2010-07-28 Member: 73268Members
    Haven't noted that problem, perhaps can be fixed later on, as i recall of lot of other bindings are also hard coded.

    As a lefty myself, i just adjusted to the way everyone else uses the keyboard and mouse.

    Like what was said before, we live in a righty world with 10 of them to 1 of us, its probably worth it to just adapt.
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  • rehreh Join Date: 2011-12-11 Member: 137450Members
    The "L" was already completely unbindable in 226b. What's interesting, with fsfod's menumod it works ok.
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  • starbaronstarbaron Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42105Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    So looks like "L" is just completely un-bindable at the moment.

    In the meantime (desperate to play) I'm trying to play with WASD. The results are comically bad, :p.

    I bound my mic to F. When I get attacked suddenly and excitedly go to press F with my pinky to call for some aid from nearby marines, half the time I hit G instead and throw my rifle on the ground in front of the advancing skulk. Ouch.

    How do you righties manage this silly WASD spot? In my normal position I've got [, ], and \ all close to my ring finger or pinky; all you get is Q and Tab. I feel for you.
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Try out the fsfmod for the Menus. It has some extra binding options.

    Dunno if unbinadble L is a root bug in the code or something messy with the binding interface.
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  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    Can you not just shift your keyboard over and use WASD with your right hand, and use your mouse with your left as normal?
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  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2007423:date=Nov 2 2012, 07:49 PM:name=starbaron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (starbaron @ Nov 2 2012, 07:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2007423"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How do you righties manage this silly WASD spot? In my normal position I've got [, ], and \ all close to my ring finger or pinky; all you get is Q and Tab. I feel for you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Q is also unbindable last I checked.
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  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2007439:date=Nov 2 2012, 07:54 PM:name=1dominator1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1dominator1 @ Nov 2 2012, 07:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2007439"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Q is also unbindable last I checked.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Do you mean re-bindable? Q is one of the default bound keys, unless I'm misremembering.
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  • starbaronstarbaron Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42105Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2007432:date=Nov 2 2012, 07:53 PM:name=Guspaz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Guspaz @ Nov 2 2012, 07:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2007432"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can you not just shift your keyboard over and use WASD with your right hand, and use your mouse with your left as normal?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Laptop, sadly. I do shift the whole laptop to the right and use my right hand on WASD but it's pretty awkward.
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  • XosteanXostean Join Date: 2012-02-17 Member: 146370Members
    If you are already left handed use the Directional Keys
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  • spaceturtlespaceturtle Join Date: 2012-08-03 Member: 154714Members
    Look up AutoHotKey, I believe it will let you do what you are looking for.
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  • TwiggehTwiggeh Join Date: 2010-09-24 Member: 74165Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2002039:date=Oct 31 2012, 05:04 AM:name=1stToast)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1stToast @ Oct 31 2012, 05:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2002039"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm left handed also and have to play as a wrong hander. That's why my stats are so bad. ;-}<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    As a left-hander, this is now my number 1 excuse for bads stats.


    Also, i use wasd anyway.
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  • more.cowbell.more.cowbell. Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166369Members
    I'm a lefty and i have never used WASD. try this layout instead... shift your hand down one row

    < is strafe left
    > strafe right
    alt backpeddle
    mouse1 move forward
    / reload
    M use
    mouse 2 fire

    bind alternate fire to anything comfortable for you... i use apostrophe (')

    the only major difference is that you use mouse1 to move forward instead of a keyboard button. i find this to be advantageous as you can strafe + move forward (and thus evade) easier. i know a lot of people use mouse1 to move forward so it's not that uncommon
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  • tarquinbbtarquinbb Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166314Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2001913:date=Oct 31 2012, 02:45 AM:name=Laosh'Ra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laosh'Ra @ Oct 31 2012, 02:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2001913"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->that's an interesting keyboard layout. i am left-handed too but i learned to use my pc like a right-handed person (you need both hands anyway, right?).

    but as for your issue: have you checked all your other binds, maybe another one is overlapping?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    me too.

    OP, don't tar all left-handers with the same brush :P

    not sure why you can't bind the key though, i have a similar problem with my desired push-to-talk 'v', whenever i talk as commander i accidentally cancel upgrades and recycle buildings.
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  • GISPGISP Battle Gorge Denmark Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27460Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester, Forum staff
    Key binds and stuff will be fixed.
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  • starbaronstarbaron Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42105Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Changelog for build 236 includes:

    * Fixed bug where L key couldn't be bound in the key bindings options.

    :D
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  • rehreh Join Date: 2011-12-11 Member: 137450Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2066061:date=Jan 24 2013, 08:35 PM:name=starbaron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (starbaron @ Jan 24 2013, 08:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2066061"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Changelog for build 236 includes:

    * Fixed bug where L key couldn't be bound in the key bindings options.

    :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I know. Made my day. :)

    This thread can die in peace now.
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  • WolvenbaneWolvenbane Join Date: 2012-11-09 Member: 168849Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2007423:date=Nov 2 2012, 06:49 PM:name=starbaron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (starbaron @ Nov 2 2012, 06:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2007423"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How do you righties manage this silly WASD spot? In my normal position I've got [, ], and \ all close to my ring finger or pinky; all you get is Q and Tab.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I use ESDF. It gives you a much wider range of accessible buttons.

    The only problem is that WASD feels completely awkward to me now, which is a problem for certain games which has WASD hard-coded because I forget that I'm not using ESDF.
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  • FrothybeverageFrothybeverage Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13593Members
    My left-handed friend uses the numpad instead of wasd.

    I used it for a time too, just to try it out.

    It feels more compact than WASD, and with the right bind spots, everything you need is right there.
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  • TroubleshooterTroubleshooter Join Date: 2012-11-15 Member: 171559Members
    edited January 2013
    <a href="http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads" target="_blank">http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads</a>

    For Cheaters, by cheaters. ;)

    Also...
    <a href="http://www.autohotkey.com" target="_blank">http://www.autohotkey.com</a>

    Fix this yourself. Don't wait for UWE to get around to it.

    Key-binds can be tricky... just make sure you're happy with what you have or make sure you know where you can go to fix that you're stuck with. Same goes for any piece of software.
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