Will this laptop run ns2 like a champ?

MisterYoonMisterYoon Join Date: 2012-08-18 Member: 155747Members
<div class="IPBDescription">need advice!</div>
Geforce GTX675MX
i7-3630QM
8G

According to the ranks of notebook's cpu and graphic cards, it seems this is not that bad.
This will cost 1000Euro by the way.

How do you think? Is it on both performance-cost wise enough good? or not?
Otherwise, can you please recommend me one? The lower spec with good price is also welcome(I would like to have 40~60fps on medium setting)

Comments

  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    Desktop with highly overclocked cpu with ssd is your best bet.
  • TacotaTacota Join Date: 2009-10-12 Member: 69027Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2010672:date=Nov 5 2012, 01:23 AM:name=TrC)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TrC @ Nov 5 2012, 01:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010672"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Desktop with highly overclocked cpu with ssd is your best bet.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I imagine there is another reason he is needing a laptop, thus should just answer his original question.

    Also, why an ssd? There are other things you can spend your money on if you're on a budget, in order to run the game well.
    ssd will not improve in-game performance - just your load times.

    I can't same much for the cpu, though, I don't know much about mobile cpus. However, that seems like a pretty decent mobile gpu. High in the ranks fo the mobiles, so you wouldn't be able to get much better. I think that is a fine laptop, as far as the gpu is concerned.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    there are plenty of people running worse laptops that can play the game just fine.
  • Dark_DragonDark_Dragon Join Date: 2007-12-21 Member: 63229Members, Constellation
    edited November 2012
    The CPU should be sufficient to avoid being a bottleneck, the GPU is *roughly* equivalent to the GTX 580 desktop graphics card, in all its pretty good for a laptop.

    You would probably have no problem playing on a mix of medium and mostly high at 60 FPS, dynamic infestation may drag your FPS down to around the 50ish FPS range, in areas where it is heavily at.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2010677:date=Nov 4 2012, 09:27 PM:name=Wheeee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wheeee @ Nov 4 2012, 09:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->there are plenty of people running worse laptops that can play the game just fine.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This.

    Those specs are well above the minimum so the game should run fine. The biggest issue I've seen people who have modern Nvidia GPU gaming laptops is that Optimus doesn't detect NS2 automatically. You'll have to go into the setting and manually set the laptop to use the GTX675MX for NS2 to ensure its using the dedicated GPU in-game.
  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2010675:date=Nov 5 2012, 01:26 AM:name=Tacota)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tacota @ Nov 5 2012, 01:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010675"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, why an ssd? There are other things you can spend your money on if you're on a budget, in order to run the game well.
    ssd will not improve in-game performance - just your load times.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    An SSD wouldn't help with gaming performance, but it's the single biggest upgrade you can make to a PC. It makes an enormous difference in the overall responsiveness of the system.
  • DavilDavil Florida, USA Join Date: 2012-08-14 Member: 155602Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2010736:date=Nov 4 2012, 10:26 PM:name=Guspaz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Guspaz @ Nov 4 2012, 10:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010736"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->An SSD wouldn't help with gaming performance, but it's the single biggest upgrade you can make to a PC. It makes an enormous difference in the overall responsiveness of the system.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I use a small 80gb SSD for the OS only since they're so expensive and have somewhat of a short lifespan. A pair of 2tb drives in raid 0 gives you pretty similar speed and A TON more space and will last a few years.

    As for the OP question, yea that laptop looks like it should run the game fine.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=2010736:date=Nov 5 2012, 07:26 AM:name=Guspaz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Guspaz @ Nov 5 2012, 07:26 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010736"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->An SSD wouldn't help with gaming performance, but it's the single biggest upgrade you can make to a PC. It makes an enormous difference in the overall responsiveness of the system.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And for NS2 specifically it would make loading of maps significantly quicker.
  • B1llyB1lly Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26653Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2010726:date=Nov 5 2012, 07:19 AM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Nov 5 2012, 07:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010726"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This.

    Those specs are well above the minimum so the game should run fine. The biggest issue I've seen people who have modern Nvidia GPU gaming laptops is that Optimus doesn't detect NS2 automatically. <b>You'll have to go into the setting and manually set the laptop to use the GTX675MX for NS2 to ensure its using the dedicated GPU in-game</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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  • ThorondorThorondor Join Date: 2004-07-06 Member: 29745Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2010656:date=Nov 5 2012, 06:54 AM:name=MisterYoon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MisterYoon @ Nov 5 2012, 06:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010656"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Geforce GTX675MX
    i7-3630QM
    8G

    According to the ranks of notebook's cpu and graphic cards, it seems this is not that bad.
    This will cost 1000Euro by the way.

    How do you think? Is it on both performance-cost wise enough good? or not?
    Otherwise, can you please recommend me one? The lower spec with good price is also welcome(I would like to have 40~60fps on medium setting)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have i7 3610QM + GT670M, and I run NS2 with everything on high except ambient occlusion on medium.
  • MisterYoonMisterYoon Join Date: 2012-08-18 Member: 155747Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2010893:date=Nov 5 2012, 04:28 AM:name=Thorondor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thorondor @ Nov 5 2012, 04:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010893"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have i7 3610QM + GT670M, and I run NS2 with everything on high except ambient occlusion on medium.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh cool. Then i consider about getting same spec of laptop that you get.
    Then how much fps do you get? Anywa, then your laptop must be relativ older/lower performing than the one that i wrote, isn't it?
  • SjNSjN Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I have an i7 2600k with 550 ti and I am able to run NS at 720 resolution, all high graphics, and it runs super smooth (constant 50-60fps). I haven't tried 1080 resolution though.
  • guitarxeguitarxe Join Date: 2012-11-02 Member: 166148Members
    I'm curious why are you getting that laptop for 1,000Euros when you can get something so much better and a nice big screen for the same amount if you build a desktop?
  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2011235:date=Nov 5 2012, 12:25 PM:name=guitarxe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (guitarxe @ Nov 5 2012, 12:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2011235"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm curious why are you getting that laptop for 1,000Euros when you can get something so much better and a nice big screen for the same amount if you build a desktop?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's rather difficult to fit a desktop in a backpack. Even one as small as my shuttle.
  • guitarxeguitarxe Join Date: 2012-11-02 Member: 166148Members
    Well how do you expect to play NS2 when you're on the go since you're not going to have an internet connection?
    Mind you, I'm just curious. I genuinely do not understand why people buy laptops for gaming. I see a whole lot of reasons to buy a laptop, but playing games isn't one of them...
  • MisterYoonMisterYoon Join Date: 2012-08-18 Member: 155747Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2011235:date=Nov 5 2012, 08:25 AM:name=guitarxe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (guitarxe @ Nov 5 2012, 08:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2011235"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm curious why are you getting that laptop for 1,000Euros when you can get something so much better and a nice big screen for the same amount if you build a desktop?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually i am happy that i don't buy kind of gaming laptop with 2,000 Euros. If you study on the other side of the earth from home, i don't think you'll buy a desktop.
  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2011479:date=Nov 5 2012, 03:23 PM:name=guitarxe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (guitarxe @ Nov 5 2012, 03:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2011479"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well how do you expect to play NS2 when you're on the go since you're not going to have an internet connection?
    Mind you, I'm just curious. I genuinely do not understand why people buy laptops for gaming. I see a whole lot of reasons to buy a laptop, but playing games isn't one of them...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Most people these days have an internet connection on the go. If you're at school, you've got the school connection. If you're at a LAN party, you've got the LAN party's connection. If you're in a random place, you probably have a 3G or 4G connection.

    It's also not as big a deal as when I went to LAN parties with giant Viewsonic CRT monitors, but it's also a heck of a lot easier to carry a laptop to a LAN party than a desktop.
  • MisterYoonMisterYoon Join Date: 2012-08-18 Member: 155747Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2011479:date=Nov 5 2012, 11:23 AM:name=guitarxe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (guitarxe @ Nov 5 2012, 11:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2011479"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well how do you expect to play NS2 when you're on the go since you're not going to have an internet connection?
    Mind you, I'm just curious. I genuinely do not understand why people buy laptops for gaming. I see a whole lot of reasons to buy a laptop, but playing games isn't one of them...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sorry, i must be aggresive.
    I got annoyed cos of comments like yours. I asked about gaming laptop, but why are you telling me that desktop's better, or even asking me why people are buying laptop for gaming? If you do stay at home for whole life, maybe you wouldn't understand. But my life hasn't let me stay at home since i was 13. What i decided to do made me travel, move a lot and be on the plane for 20 hours to visit my home at the short vacation. I have good desktop at my home, but i can't even touch it till next summer. And out of my work i need something to entertain and relax myself. I can't just wait for a year to turn my desktop at home on and play natural selection 2. And although i'm personally super big fan of football, but i cannot play everyday football, cos my body hurts and there's no time. I can't also just wait without doing nothing but work for whole week to watch one spanish football match or champions league. So i wanna just buy laptop to play ns2 and have fun anytime i got stressed. So i asked for information about laptop, but people like you staying whole day at home and think that everyone can play game with desktop at comfortable lovely home make me more stressful. Thanks.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2011428:date=Nov 5 2012, 10:43 AM:name=Guspaz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Guspaz @ Nov 5 2012, 10:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2011428"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's rather difficult to fit a desktop in a backpack. Even one as small as my shuttle.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Where there's a will, there is a way!
    <a href="http://imgur.com/j4FlE" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/j4FlE.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
  • MisterYoonMisterYoon Join Date: 2012-08-18 Member: 155747Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2011515:date=Nov 5 2012, 11:45 AM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Nov 5 2012, 11:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2011515"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Where there's a will, there is a way!
    <a href="http://imgur.com/j4FlE" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/j4FlE.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    haha but that one would never run ns2! :)
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=2010749:date=Nov 5 2012, 01:39 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Nov 5 2012, 01:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010749"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I use a small 80gb SSD for the OS only since they're so expensive and have somewhat of a short lifespan.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    10K writes for bog-standard MLC NAND flash is roughly equivalent to writing over your entire SSD once per day for 27 years. SSDs use load leveling to prevent a program from wearing out a spot. There were lots of teething problems and firmware issues, but they're getting very solid now.

    Read as many times as you like.

    <!--quoteo(post=2010749:date=Nov 5 2012, 01:39 AM:name=Davil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Davil @ Nov 5 2012, 01:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2010749"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->A pair of 2tb drives in raid 0 gives you pretty similar speed and A TON more space and will last a few years.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, not even remotely close.

    Seek time on a harddrive: 5-10 ms
    "Seek time"(access latency) on flash: 0.05-0.1 ms

    Read two thousand files(e.g. load a level in NS2) and you waste a good 10-20 seconds, <i>even if each file were 1 byte long</i>.
    Read two thousand files on an SSD, and it adds only 100-200 ms.

    Note, lots of small files is the typical case. Harddrives spend most of their times moving the needle back and forth rather than reading and writing.
  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    MLC SSDs haven't done 10k writes for quite some time; die shrinks took them down to in the ballpark of 3k these days. Doesn't really change anything.

    The point about IOPS is really true. Two big spinning rust disks in a RAID might get you 0.5 MB/s in random read performance, but a single decent SSD should be about two hundred times faster than that.

    Two. Hundred. Times. Faster.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    Don't forget that SSD's have no moving parts.

    Moving parts are a bad thing in portable equipment.
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