"Natural Selection 2 sells 144,000 copies in first week"

SnazzSnazz Join Date: 2007-09-30 Member: 62482Members
edited November 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
Various websites are erroneously reporting that Natural Selection 2 sold 144,000 copies in it's first week of release.

- Beef Jack: <a href="http://beefjack.com/news/natural-selection-2-sells-144000-copies-in-first-week-on-sale/" target="_blank">Natural Selection 2 sells 144,000 copies in first week on sale</a>
- Euro Gamer: <a href="http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-10-natural-selection-2-earns-USD1-million-in-its-first-week" target="_blank">Natural Selection 2 earns $1 million in its first week</a>
- Joystiq: <a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/09/natural-selection-2-notches-up-1-million-in-first-week/" target="_blank">Natural Selection 2 notches up $1 million in first week</a>
- PCGamer: <a href="http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/08/natural-selection-2-infographic/" target="_blank">Natural Selection 2 by the numbers: 144,000 copies sold in first week</a>
- GamingBolt: <a href="http://gamingbolt.com/natural-selection-2-sells-144000-units-worldwide-1-mil-usd-in-first-week" target="_blank">Natural Selection 2 Sells 144,000 Units Worldwide, $1 Mil USD in First Week</a>
- Develop: <a href="http://www.develop-online.net/news/42471/Standalone-CS-mod-pulls-1m-in-first-week" target="_blank">Standalone Half-Life mod pulls $1m in first week</a>
- The Nexus News: <a href="http://thenexusnews.com/natural-selection-2-makes-over-2-5-million-in-its-first-week/853420/" target="_blank">Natural Selection 2 Makes Over $2.5 Million in Its First Week</a>

Apparently they saw <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/images/ns2/PostLaunchStatsRelease.jpg" target="_blank">this infographic</a> but failed to read the line below 144,000 saying "people who <b>own</b> NS2 (pre-orders + gifts + launch sales)".

At least 45,000 copies were pre-ordered before the game even appeared on the Steam store (on September 4th) and <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2012/9/natural_selection_2_pre_orders_on_steam" target="_blank">UWE gave away the same amount of copies for free.</a>
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  • Omar - The WireOmar - The Wire Join Date: 2012-11-01 Member: 165320Members
    edited November 2012
    Let them misreport it.

    It's their fault for not doing their due diligence as a news source.

    It's also positive publicity since UWE had nothing to do with their erroneous misinterpretation.
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  • cryptcrypt Join Date: 2004-04-22 Member: 28091Members, Constellation
    Yea, seems like they didnt know the gifts were free and there were so many of them.

    News could be worse though ;)
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  • SixtyWattManSixtyWattMan Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31404Members
    I don't know if you've noticed the news lately, but it turns out games journalism has the same standards as flipping burgers at McDonalds, probably much lower.
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  • SnazzSnazz Join Date: 2007-09-30 Member: 62482Members
    ^ Haha

    Also notice that some sites are reporting $1 Million in sales while another claims $2.5 Million.

    + One site calls NS2 a "Standalone Half-Life Mod"
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  • tarquinbbtarquinbb Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166314Members
    don't pre-orders always count in the first week stats though?

    yeah they obviously pulled the number from that image, but i reckon the pre-orders should fall into the first week sales category anyway.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    The 1mil figure is close to accurate, I'd say it's conservative actually...

    144000 - 85000 (the # of preorders and gifts approximately) = 59000 * 25 = 1.475 million doll hairs.
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  • SnazzSnazz Join Date: 2007-09-30 Member: 62482Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2018601:date=Nov 11 2012, 04:51 AM:name=tarquinbb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tarquinbb @ Nov 11 2012, 04:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2018601"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->don't pre-orders always count in the first week stats though?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The sites are saying "in first week" whereas NS2 has been pre-ordered since 2009.
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  • {GGs} Chicken{GGs} Chicken Join Date: 2011-11-22 Member: 134663Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=2018608:date=Nov 10 2012, 11:01 AM:name=Swiftspear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swiftspear @ Nov 10 2012, 11:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2018608"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The 1mil figure is close to accurate, I'd say it's conservative actually...

    144000 - 85000 (the # of preorders and gifts approximately) = 59000 * 25 = 1.475 million doll hairs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm pretty sure they said they had 40,000+ before steam, double that for free keys, and 20,000 on steam before release. So around 40,000 sold for the first week. Around a million, before valve's cut.
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  • MzMzMzMz Join Date: 2006-10-23 Member: 58087Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited November 2012
    Factual inaccuracy? Blasphemy!
    "We can start a fire, toast some marshmallows, and chant slogans."
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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    I love the part where it's cited as a HL mod.

    That's just so awesome.
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  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2018576:date=Nov 10 2012, 12:29 PM:name=Snazz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Snazz @ Nov 10 2012, 12:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2018576"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Apparently they saw <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/images/ns2/PostLaunchStatsRelease.jpg" target="_blank">this infographic</a> but failed to read the line below 144,000 saying "people who <b>own</b> NS2 (pre-orders + gifts + launch sales)".

    At least 45,000 copies were pre-ordered before the game even appeared on the Steam store (on September 4th) and <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2012/9/natural_selection_2_pre_orders_on_steam" target="_blank">UWE gave away the same amount of copies for free.</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Pretty sure pre-orders count towards day one/week one sales for every other game release...
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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2019195:date=Nov 11 2012, 05:10 AM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Nov 11 2012, 05:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2019195"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Pretty sure pre-orders count towards day one/week one sales for every other game release...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Ok, but yer not getting it.

    There was 45,000 pre-orders before Steam.

    That's 90,000 copies, half of which were free. So still, 45,000 copies sold.


    So...if 144,000 copies were sold...

    Lets see...

    Means roughly 99,000 copies were sold, really, or around that.
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  • ColeCole Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8392Members
    Impossible. Internet journalists and bloggers(how loose these terms have become) never make mistakes, and always do their research, always. Taking it a step further, internet enthusiasts always validate what they read, always. You heard it here first. I just heard on Facebook that Flayra has announced a new unit for the game. Its a skorpion that hovars without flapping. BELIEVE IT!
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  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    I've been watching the news posts with a mix of confusion and happiness. Confused because we haven't sold 144,000 copies, but happiness that the press are taking the time to write about NS2, even erroneously

    I should have made that infographic clearer!
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  • RuntehRunteh Join Date: 2010-06-26 Member: 72163Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I saw that NS2 is still doing well on steam :)

    UWE need more sales though, 1 million is great but when you consider salaries, equipment, rent, etc... It is not a lot.
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  • HamletHamlet Join Date: 2008-08-17 Member: 64837Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2018592:date=Nov 10 2012, 07:43 PM:name=SixtyWattMan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SixtyWattMan @ Nov 10 2012, 07:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2018592"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't know if you've noticed the news lately, but it turns out games journalism has the same standards as flipping burgers at McDonalds, probably much lower.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Same payment --> same work ethics :)

    Seriously: <a href="http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/natural-selection-2/user-reviews" target="_blank">http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/natural-...-2/user-reviews</a>
    NS2 MetaCritic score = <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro--><b>9.2</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->. Faith in humanity restored.
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  • SnazzSnazz Join Date: 2007-09-30 Member: 62482Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2019408:date=Nov 11 2012, 08:23 PM:name=Hamlet)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hamlet @ Nov 11 2012, 08:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2019408"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS2 MetaCritic score = <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro--><b>9.2</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->. Faith in humanity restored.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Although that's the user score, the metacritic score is still dragged down by the review Gamespot has pulled.

    The general response to NS2 does appear positive, which is as much as you could realistically expect.
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  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2019190:date=Nov 10 2012, 10:07 PM:name=Mkilbride)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mkilbride @ Nov 10 2012, 10:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2019190"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I love the part where it's cited as a HL mod.

    That's just so awesome.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lol best part.
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  • HamletHamlet Join Date: 2008-08-17 Member: 64837Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2019556:date=Nov 11 2012, 02:11 PM:name=Snazz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Snazz @ Nov 11 2012, 02:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2019556"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Although that's the user score, the metacritic score is still dragged down by the review Gamespot has pulled.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do you mean pulled-pulled?

    <a href="http://www.gamespot.com/news/natural-selection-2-review-pulled-6399748" target="_blank">http://www.gamespot.com/news/natural-selec...-pulled-6399748</a>
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hi GameSpot readers!

    Yesterday, we posted our review of Natural Selection 2--but unfortunately, it's come to our attention that the review contained several inaccuracies. We take our reviews seriously, and we stand by our reviewers' critical analyses and writing abilities. However, our greatest responsibility is to you, our readers and viewers. We own up to our mistakes, and in light of the errors in the Natural Selection 2 review, we have chosen to remove the review and assign it to another author.

    I apologize for the inaccuracies in the review. We look forward to publishing a replacement review once we have had a chance to fully explore Natural Selection 2.

    Sincerely,

    Kevin VanOrd, Senior Editor<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hilarity ensues :)

    I'm not surprised. It must've been a long time since they actually had to review a game instead of the usual slapping of the usual 10 on the usual suspects for the usual fee.
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  • AbcewaitwhatAbcewaitwhat Join Date: 2012-11-09 Member: 168579Members
    Honestly this game is so awsome that anything less than 2 million copies is just poor comercializing... I miss clicked on a link and thats how i found this game... never heared of it and never heared of NS 1 either tbh...
    Your commercial department should have tons of it out on youtubes most watched reviewers and so on.
    I heared the sales sky rocketed when Totalbiscuit got into it but theres plenty more reviews like him and imo alot better.
    Keep up the good work tho! i love the game!
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