Will I be able to run it?

LRMAN0989LRMAN0989 Join Date: 2012-11-12 Member: 170130Members
Hey, I've been thinking about buying NS2, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to run it smoothly (on max). My monitor only supports up to 1280x1024 so it should be able to run on my "max" a lot easier than on 1920x1080.

Specs:

AMD Phenom II 945 (3.0 GHZ quad)
8 GB RAM (800 MHZ DDR2)
AMD Radeon HD 6770

Comments

  • Marty123Marty123 Join Date: 2012-09-06 Member: 158055Members
    You won't be able to run it at an acceptable frame-rate on max. It looks good on medium settings though. I think this might be the most demanding game ever made, which is absurd for a $25 indie game but whatever.
  • Metal HandkerchiefMetal Handkerchief Join Date: 2012-11-09 Member: 168697Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2021474:date=Nov 12 2012, 06:34 PM:name=Marty123)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marty123 @ Nov 12 2012, 06:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2021474"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You won't be able to run it at an acceptable frame-rate on max. It looks good on medium settings though. I think this might be the most demanding game ever made, which is absurd for a $25 indie game but whatever.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    What? I haven't ever seen my FPS under 60 and I have an Nvidia GTX 470. (Which is exactly the same as a 560Ti except for power consumption, heat and noise) Everything at max except atmospherics off... Maybe it's a radeon issue. (which is often the case with new games)

    Or maybe it's more CPU intensive than GPU intensive, my Intel i5-3570K @ 4.8 GhZ might be the deciding factor.
  • Marty123Marty123 Join Date: 2012-09-06 Member: 158055Members
    It is a lot more CPU intensive. A LOT more. With r_stats on it says there is 0 delay coming from my GPU, it is my processor bogging everything down. I think 3 GHZ is the MINIMUM requirement and it won't get you playing on max settings. It looks quite good on low settings though and it is more about the great gameplay than the the graphics. You should still get it even though you can't run it on max settings.
  • OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
    edited November 2012
    Heh, I'm upgarding from a 2.6GHz Ph x3 to a 3.6GHz Fx x4 this week, specifically for this game.

    Can we get a max/dash heads up on how important the levels of cpu cache are to the equation?

    (PS: I currently play @ 1080 vertical resolution, low texs and all options off except anisitropic and bloom, again max/dash, those 2 effects are still GPU bound yes? LUA doesnt do much other than signal a need for them?)

    OP: I get 43-54 FPS stationary in ReadyRoom alone, I'd guess 10fps max late game in a full room, which is plenty for myself, not so for alot of people.

    Be interesting to see what an 1GHz difference makes.
  • Marty123Marty123 Join Date: 2012-09-06 Member: 158055Members
    3.6 GHZ sounds great it should run pretty well after that. I've also noticed something really weird which is that tweaking resolution and a lot of the graphical settings doesn't really affect my FPS at all. I put it on super low and I still get around 15 and at pretty high settings I get the same. Maybe because my graphics card is fine but my CPU just can't keep up with the very lengthy and unoptimized code?
  • Metal HandkerchiefMetal Handkerchief Join Date: 2012-11-09 Member: 168697Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2021592:date=Nov 12 2012, 08:21 PM:name=Marty123)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marty123 @ Nov 12 2012, 08:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2021592"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->3.6 GHZ sounds great it should run pretty well after that. I've also noticed something really weird which is that tweaking resolution and a lot of the graphical settings doesn't really affect my FPS at all. I put it on super low and I still get around 15 and at pretty high settings I get the same. Maybe because my graphics card is fine but my CPU just can't keep up with the very lengthy and unoptimized code?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have noticed in alien-vision that each mesh has many vertices, and don't look very game optimised. To me that is a good thing, but... Progress and all that.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2021596:date=Nov 13 2012, 03:27 AM:name=Metal Handkerchief)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Metal Handkerchief @ Nov 13 2012, 03:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2021596"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have noticed in alien-vision that each mesh has many vertices, and don't look very game optimised. To me that is a good thing, but... Progress and all that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is something funky with the alien shader and the actual vertexes not being completely on grid that cause those "vertex heavy" lines, the actual triangles on the mesh is not affected by that :)
  • sushia11sushia11 Join Date: 2012-10-12 Member: 162112Members
    I actually think the system req. on steam should be modified. Everything is fine, except for the cpu req. The Core 2 Duo part is fine (Even though more cores is indeed better). What isn't okay, is the ghz it says is needed.

    2.6 ghz is barely enough to play mid-game. As of now, people might look at this and say,"Well, I've got 2.5 ghz, so I should be fine!" Not good. 2.6ghz is on the knife's edge of being okay on maybe a 12-16 player server.

    I think it should be changed to say, "Dual Core 3.0 ghz" for the minimum. Max should be "Quad Core 4.0 ghz," or something along those lines.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Type of C2D is also important as a third generation C2D (E8xxx) would be more powerful per CPU cycle then a second generation (E6xxx).
  • OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
    Er, I play on mostly 24 and 18 player servers with a 2.6Ghz and usually if we won it's because we were in the right place doing the right things.

    It's only when alot of the good NS1 players coming out of the woodwork recently with their serious gaming rigs all join Marines that fps seems to actually have any effect on the game outcome.
  • ChalarieChalarie Join Date: 2012-05-03 Member: 151459Members
    Hey, I had a similar system before I upgraded my GPU to a 660 TI. I generally got between 30-40 FPS early game, down to about 20 late game. (This was on all max graphics)

    Keep in mind though that this was also earlier in beta when I had this configuration, and there have been plenty of performance improvements since.

    So, short answer, yes! This will run decently on your system. Hope to see you around!
  • Lev SteelLev Steel Join Date: 2012-10-13 Member: 162274Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2012
    With that CPU you could just give it a shot. So try out the game and see for yourself, if you like the gameplay or not. If so, you better upgrade your CPU to an i5. I also advise an overclocking-friendly mainboard with it. You probably wont need to upgrade your GFX, since NS2 is just very CPU intense.

    For a quick comparison:
    - on my "old" Phenom X4 @ 4 GHz i got between 20 and 60 FPS. Whenever i entered areas with a lot of infestation or many action going on, my FPS dropped below 30, wich made me having hard times hitting well with a shotgun or in melee combat as a skulk. So my own performance was nerfed by my FPS... no fun :(

    - on my new i5 3570K @ 4,2 GHz i get between 40 and 110 FPS. So even in heavy situations my FPS stays far above 30 and i got a decent gameplay now with nice graphics on 1920*1080. Since i really love NS it was worth the about € 450,- (i5 3570K + MSI Z77 MPower Board + 8GB 1833 MHz RAM) upgrade for me!

    My GFX is an 7950, so its pretty recent. But i think you should do just fine with yours as well on mid detail levels.
  • tarquinbbtarquinbb Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166314Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2021492:date=Nov 13 2012, 01:56 AM:name=Marty123)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marty123 @ Nov 13 2012, 01:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2021492"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It is a lot more CPU intensive. A LOT more. With r_stats on it says there is 0 delay coming from my GPU, it is my processor bogging everything down. I think 3 GHZ is the MINIMUM requirement and it won't get you playing on max settings. It looks quite good on low settings though and it is more about the great gameplay than the the graphics. You should still get it even though you can't run it on max settings.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    the graphics look really good though... there's something about it which makes it more aesthetically pleasing than crysis 2 or battlefield 3.

    those 'realistic'-style games always end up looking like half-life 2 with better lighting, where NS2 is more stylized... half-life 2 isn't a bad thing, but i appreciate different styles as what they are... a stylized sketch is not necessarily worse than a realistic sketch.

    NS2 has more eye candy than most games, it's just not in a 'realistic' sense.
  • tarquinbbtarquinbb Join Date: 2012-11-03 Member: 166314Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2024418:date=Nov 15 2012, 11:23 AM:name=Lev Steel)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lev Steel @ Nov 15 2012, 11:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2024418"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->With that CPU you could just give it a shot. So try out the game and see for yourself, if you like the gameplay or not. If so, you better upgrade your CPU to an i5. I also advise an overclocking-friendly mainboard with it. You probably wont need to upgrade your GFX, since NS2 is just very CPU intense.

    For a quick comparison:
    - on my "old" Phenom X4 @ 4 GHz i got between 20 and 60 FPS. Whenever i entered areas with a lot of infestation or many action going on, my FPS dropped below 30, wich made me having hard times hitting well with a shotgun or in melee combat as a skulk. So my own performance was nerfed by my FPS... no fun :(

    - on my new i5 3570K @ 4,2 GHz i get between 40 and 110 FPS. So even in heavy situations my FPS stays far above 30 and i got a decent gameplay now with nice graphics on 1920*1080. Since i really love NS it was worth the about € 450,- (i5 3570K + MSI Z77 MPower Board + 8GB 1833 MHz RAM) upgrade for me!

    My GFX is an 7950, so its pretty recent. But i think you should do just fine with yours as well on mid detail levels.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    wtf are you sure your older processor wasn't overheating and throttling back? are you using an aftermarket cooler?
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