Performance Issues
waflz
Join Date: 2012-09-07 Member: 158459Members
Join Date: 2012-09-07 Member: 158459Members
Mobo
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DisplayPort USB3.0 Motherboard
RAM
58165 Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9 Vengeance 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1866 CL9-10-9-27 Memory Kit
PROC
70540 Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked Quad Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.5GHZ Ivy Bridge 8MB Retail
GRAPH
Zotac GTS 450
The system was just reformatted with a fresh install of Window 7
Yes the graphics card is not the best.
- This system should run the game on max without issues.
I was able to play the game just fine until 3-4 days ago, i believe after the patch?
Now after ive been playing the game for sometimes just a few min, i get Chop running through the hallways, I can put up a video of what im experiancing if it would help.
As a skulk running the hallways, not even in the big room i get little "jumps" and delays. (Infestation is on Min)
What is going on with this game?
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DisplayPort USB3.0 Motherboard
RAM
58165 Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9 Vengeance 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1866 CL9-10-9-27 Memory Kit
PROC
70540 Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked Quad Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.5GHZ Ivy Bridge 8MB Retail
GRAPH
Zotac GTS 450
The system was just reformatted with a fresh install of Window 7
Yes the graphics card is not the best.
- This system should run the game on max without issues.
I was able to play the game just fine until 3-4 days ago, i believe after the patch?
Now after ive been playing the game for sometimes just a few min, i get Chop running through the hallways, I can put up a video of what im experiancing if it would help.
As a skulk running the hallways, not even in the big room i get little "jumps" and delays. (Infestation is on Min)
What is going on with this game?
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That's not how it works though. You can't just arbitrarily switch different sorts of computations from GPU to CPU.
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+420&id=1420" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?...420&id=1420</a>
But if the game used to run fine, the card isn't the issue obviously.
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Have you tried turning off Hyperthreading? It isn't of much use in games and has been known to cause issues like stuttering in some.
- I run BF3 on MAX (Different engine but still)
Hyperthreading is not something i know how to control, is their a process to eliminate this? You used a great word to describe whats happening "Stuttering"
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rscmqrFWac) found it, Ill try it out
<a href="http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1325010&mpage=1" target="_blank">http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1325010&mpage=1</a>
Ill try both games
BF3
and
NS2
*another note, checked my temps after long periods of gaming and they are fine.
- Turned graphics and ingame settings to zero, still was getting stuttering effects , It seems to happen later in most games...
- I can get more exact numbers.
I used to run the game flawlessly at max settings without any hiccups...
Core i7 2.6 GHZ
6GB DDR3
Gforce 580 GTX Twinfrozr.
I can max out BF3 with zero lag, and same with this game, well that was before the patch...
- This has to be an ingame issue.....
It's obviously an issue with the game since I was running it fine before the patch..
@waflz take some screenshots (f12 key) of r_stats turned on in the console (~ key)
Interested to note if the "X ms waiting for GPU" is ever anything other than 0.
If it is.. then you are indeed bottlenecked by that low budget card.. which sells for under 40 bucks right now..
@waflz take some screenshots (f12 key) of r_stats turned on in the console (~ key)
Interested to note if the "X ms waiting for GPU" is ever anything other than 0.
If it is.. then you are indeed bottlenecked by that low budget card.. which sells for under 40 bucks right now..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I will once i get home from lunch, ill take some ss for you
:D
EDIT: Could it be possible by the developers or modders to create some setting/mod to strip down EVERYTHING. Like the walls being one grey color, models really simple and everything reduced to nothing that possibly can? I love the gameplay and couldn't care less about the graphics.
No amount of CPU power can make up for a lacking GPU, and vice versa.
I'm not suprised your frame rates are low with that GPU, myself and others with GPUs 3-4x as powerful are also experiencing frame rate issues in certain scenarios.
Suggestions: Make sure AA is off, textures no higher then medium (looks almost the same) and infestation probably will need to be set to simple. Most of all, make sure Ambient Occolusion is set to off, as setting this to medium or high can eat 50% of your FPS in low performance areas.
*I have to confirm now, Its the Zotac GTX 460
Thanks, The graphics on every other game are maxed and tapped, no reason why this game should be any different. *besides the point tho*
Even with everything set to ZERO, High prioirty... all the little ###### set to zero....
I still get stuttering effects, multiple people get this issue .
I will be upgrading my card very shortly :D so ill bring back ethier a yes or no to the problem fix with the upgraded card :D
*I have to confirm now, Its the Zotac GTX 460
Thanks, The graphics on every other game are maxed and tapped, no reason why this game should be any different. *besides the point tho*
Even with everything set to ZERO, High prioirty... all the little ###### set to zero....
I still get stuttering effects, multiple people get this issue .
I will be upgrading my card very shortly :D so ill bring back ethier a yes or no to the problem fix with the upgraded card :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your most likely wasting your money. NS2 is really heavily dependant on CPU and upgrading graphics card won't help much if CPU is the bottle neck.
Incorrect.
His CPU:
Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked Quad Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.5GHZ Ivy Bridge 8MB Retail
He'll be better off than 90% of people playing this game with that cpu..
Though if in fact he DOES have a 460, and not a 420 , i would agree that upgrading wouldn't produce that better of results
- I was unable to recreate the stuttering effect even with max graphics set. (something to do with full server?)
TO CONFIRM GRAPHICS CARD( GTS 450 )
<a href="http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00005.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffl..._00005.jpg.html</a>
- Settings at start
]http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00001.jpg.html
- In rr graphics set to nothing
<a href="http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00003.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffl..._00003.jpg.html</a>
- In game (wall view)
<a href="http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00006.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffl..._00006.jpg.html</a>
- In game Saturated view
<a href="http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00009.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffl..._00009.jpg.html</a>[
- Graphics on High
<a href="http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00010.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffl..._00010.jpg.html</a>
- WallView
<a href="http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffles8/media/2012-11-22_00017.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/waffl..._00017.jpg.html</a>
- Saturated View
As for what may have suddenly made your FPS drop, did you update your drivers? Or did windows update automatically do it? Sometimes with older cards, newer drivers perform worse, or exhibit odd behavior, but that GPU is going to have issues no mater what.. I've tested multiple GPUs with NS2 and most of them struggle at one point or another.
I will look for stuttering effects, see if i can recreate them. * we did just patch again... not sure if that had anything to do with it.
That means your CPU is waiting on your GPU everytime.. in all those screenshots. You are definitely bottlenecked by that card.
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTS+450&id=1" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lo...TS+450&id=1</a>
Ensure that Vsync is OFF in your settings, btw.. it can create stuttering. (i saw in ur SS that it was off)
edit: something besides drivers to consider..(latest is 306.97) ns2 may not be using your card - when u open ns2 and ur sitting in the menu, hit the console and see what "Render Device" says?
And always disable ambient occlusion.. it eats up to 20 fps.
*I have to confirm now, Its the Zotac GTX 460
Thanks, The graphics on every other game are maxed and tapped, no reason why this game should be any different. *besides the point tho*
Even with everything set to ZERO, High prioirty... all the little ###### set to zero....
I still get stuttering effects, multiple people get this issue .
I will be upgrading my card very shortly :D so ill bring back either a yes or no to the problem fix with the upgraded card :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Glad to hear you have the 460 that's a much more capable card, and even above the GT 450 recommended requirements posted by UWE.
I have to imagine this is a driver issue, new Catalayst and nvidia drivers are coming out constantly and with automatic updates people are more likely to have the latest versions which UWE may not be able to test for.
C2D @ 3.8ghz + 5850 @ 1080p, FPS is generally fine (60+) until late game scenarios on populated servers. Also after playing for some time performance seems to drop, possibly memory leak related.