Performance Issues (All Info Included)

Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
edited November 2012 in Technical Support
<div class="IPBDescription">p_logall, log, dxdiag, and profiler included</div>Hello there. I am here to explain the issues I'm having and hopefully submit all the information necessary for the developers to see what's wrong and help others as well. If there are any users who take it upon themselves to read this information and can offer a suggestion that would be greatly appreciated as well.

<b>1.</b> I've been having crash problems. It will either crash to black screen and then to my desktop like nothing was ever running or it will freeze and I will have to manually terminate the process. <u><b>Note: This has only been happening since build 232. It didn't do this in 229-230.</b>
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<b>2.</b> My FPS has dropped since the recent update to build 232. My overall FPS has dropped by 10-15 frames. I'm not sure why but that's the case.

<b>3.</b> Running the game in lower resolutions increases FPS dramatically but performance is still poor. When I play on native 1920x1080 the game is nearly unplayable. I've lowered the resolution down to 1024x768 and the performance increase is gigantic but still runs somewhat poorly in heated situations. You can see my comparison below.

<b>4.</b> My ping has been spiking for no reason. I joined a west coast server and I live in California. I averaged about a 30-35 ping. I noticed my ping spiking up to 100 at random. I immediately checked my connection, ran a speed test, tried running another game to see if the problem persisted. But I came to find out my internet is perfectly fine.
<u><b>As you can see here:</b></u>

<img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/2334268067.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

<b>5.</b> NS2 and Steam are the only things running in the background when I play besides necessary drivers. Other than that I make sure I dedicate my full system to NS2 when I play. Also I've tried every work-a-round in the stickied threads and nothing has helped.

<b>6.</b> It's not my overclock either. I went into the bios and reset everything to default and performance got worse. So at this point my OC is helping in the slightest. I've checked my temperatures on my system and everything is proper and cool.

<b>demo w/ r_stats:</b> <a href="http://www.filedropper.com/replay_1" target="_blank">http://www.filedropper.com/replay_1</a>
<b>p_logall:</b> <a href="http://www.filedropper.com/client-1127-032221" target="_blank">http://www.filedropper.com/client-1127-032221</a>
<b>net_log 3:</b> <a href="http://www.filedropper.com/netlog3" target="_blank">http://www.filedropper.com/netlog3</a>
<b>log:</b> <a href="http://www.filedropper.com/log" target="_blank">http://www.filedropper.com/log</a>
<b>DXDIAG 64-bit:</b> <a href="http://www.filedropper.com/dxdiag_1" target="_blank">http://www.filedropper.com/dxdiag_1</a>
<b>NS2 Profiler Output:</b> <a href="http://postimage.org/image/k1xp1lrtt/" target="_blank">http://postimage.org/image/k1xp1lrtt/</a>
<b>r_stats 1024x764:</b> <a href="http://postimage.org/image/y5h7ebyzj/" target="_blank">http://postimage.org/image/y5h7ebyzj/</a>
<b>r_stats 1920x1080:</b> <a href="http://postimage.org/image/z8biaknct/full/" target="_blank">http://postimage.org/image/z8biaknct/full/</a>

<u><b>Notice how waiting for GPU is 0ms.</b></u>

<u><b>My Specifications:</b></u>
Windows 7 64 bit
AMD Athlon II x4 640 @ 3.40 GHz
XFX Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 (overclocked: 930 gpu clock, 1250 memory clock)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power Supply
Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

<u><b>Game Configuration:</b></u>
Resolution: 1920x1080
Texture Quality: Low
Infestation: Minimal
Anti-Analising: Off
Bloom: Off
Atmospherics: Off
Anistropic Filtering: Off
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Shadows: Off
Texture Streaming: Off
Multicore Rendering: On

<u><b>In-Game Performance:</b></u>
Out of combat: 25 FPS
In combat: 15-20 FPS
Late game: 10-15 FPS

<u><b>Game Configuration:</b></u>
Resolution: 1024x768
Texture Quality: Low
Infestation: Minimal
Anti-Analising: Off
Bloom: Off
Atmospherics: Off
Anistropic Filtering: Off
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Shadows: Off
Texture Streaming: Off
Multicore Rendering: On

<u><b>In-Game Performance:</b></u>
Out of combat: 55 FPS
In combat: 35-40 FPS
Late game: 25-35 FPS<u></u>
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    edited November 2012
    Also, this is what system requirements lab says about my computer being able to handle the game. I meet both the minimum and recommended requirements. Even though it says my video card doesn't meet the recommended, it does. Because The drivers are for 5700 series so that's how it displays. I have an HD 5770 and that's what it says for recommended.

    <b>Minimum Results:</b>

    <img src="http://s12.postimage.org/gtxfu6xvh/sys_req1.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://s12.postimage.org/xvq9wacql/sys_req2.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    <b>Reccomended Results:</b>

    <img src="http://s18.postimage.org/c7on56ca1/sys_req3.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • CoTTonCoTTon Join Date: 2005-02-28 Member: 42773Members
    edited November 2012
    56MB used for video texture?

    On mine I am using at least 750 MB

    However also the avail Virtual memory is around usually 4k

    <a href="http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/1136293535487925212/0B634AC98C54AB1967EBD4BDEA747C5FADD0D44D/" target="_blank">http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/11362935...747C5FADD0D44D/</a>

    But I am currently using 2x 560's on SLI
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  • -FLH--FLH- Join Date: 2012-11-07 Member: 168077Members
    edited November 2012
    I just ran mine through that and while it's a few years old does more or less the same as you in high action with everything off. Are you using the start high info here > <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117259" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=117259</a>

    This helped me out and while I'm still having random crashes from ARC fire and huge fps drop off in heavy action, this has been the single biggest thing that helped me see through all the stupid graphic spam and have a hope of hitting anything. Good luck.

    <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25397707/ns2.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2035677:date=Nov 27 2012, 02:19 AM:name=-FLH-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (-FLH- @ Nov 27 2012, 02:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2035677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just ran mine through that and while it's a few years old does more or less the same as you in high action with everything off. Are you using the start high info here > <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=117259" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/in...howtopic=117259</a>

    This helped me out and while I'm still having random crashes from ARC fire and huge fps drop off in heavy action, this has been the single biggest thing that helped me see through all the stupid graphic spam and have a hope of hitting anything. Good luck.

    <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25397707/ns2.png" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes I am using the start NS2 as a high priority batch file. I mean it helped barely. But it's not significant. I'm curious whats your video card?

    I'm intrigued because your setup isn't that much different than mine. You're on a Phenon 2 and I'm on an Athlon 2. My clock is .2 higher than yours. We have the same amount of ram. Just wondering what your video card is. For it to yield that much of a significant increase is weird don't you think?
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  • -FLH--FLH- Join Date: 2012-11-07 Member: 168077Members
    I was running 2*HD4890 on release day at 1920*1200 everything off, one died and on build 229 ish I moved to a HD6870 which run it just the same till build 230+ when the fps dropped as per what a fair few are seeing and I dropped res from 1920*1200 down to 1600*1200 everything off to get it half decent, which it isn't but hey ho, it'll get better.

    If I get a sec tomorrow I'll plug the HD4890 in and see what it does on the current build versus the HD6870.
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2035643:date=Nov 26 2012, 11:27 PM:name=CoTTon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CoTTon @ Nov 26 2012, 11:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2035643"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->56MB used for video texture?

    On mine I am using at least 750 MB

    However also the avail Virtual memory is around usually 4k

    <a href="http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/1136293535487925212/0B634AC98C54AB1967EBD4BDEA747C5FADD0D44D/" target="_blank">http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/11362935...747C5FADD0D44D/</a>

    But I am currently using 2x 560's on SLI<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I just saw what you were insinuating. That is pretty weird. It allocates more memory to textures when the resolution is lower. Is there some way to edit the amount of memory allocated to the game both RAM and Video Card Memory? I think that might solve a lot of the FPS problems. It seems to be under-utilizing the video card.

    <!--quoteo(post=2035920:date=Nov 27 2012, 11:31 AM:name=-FLH-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (-FLH- @ Nov 27 2012, 11:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2035920"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was running 2*HD4890 on release day at 1920*1200 everything off, one died and on build 229 ish I moved to a HD6870 which run it just the same till build 230+ when the fps dropped as per what a fair few are seeing and I dropped res from 1920*1200 down to 1600*1200 everything off to get it half decent, which it isn't but hey ho, it'll get better.

    If I get a sec tomorrow I'll plug the HD4890 in and see what it does on the current build versus the HD6870.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Cool man. I just think it's fairly weird how far apart the difference in performance is between your setup and mine. They're virtually the same in terms of performance except your videocard. I doubt the difference between Phenom 2 and Athlon 2 has anything to do with it really. My HD5770 should be holding up fairly well but the game doesn't seem to think so.

    Any Developers or helpers able to check out my issues at this time?
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    Senor Bumpy Bumpington
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  • kalakujakalakuja Join Date: 2012-09-11 Member: 159045Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter
    Check your pcie bus settings in bios. My friend had his 5770's pcie bus set to 1x instead of 16x.
    Dem silly motherboards :)
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2036437:date=Nov 28 2012, 02:56 AM:name=kalakuja)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kalakuja @ Nov 28 2012, 02:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2036437"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Check your pcie bus settings in bios. My friend had his 5770's pcie bus set to 1x instead of 16x.
    Dem silly motherboards :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Are you talking about HT Link Width? I can't find any pcie bus settings.
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  • kalakujakalakuja Join Date: 2012-09-11 Member: 159045Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=2036670:date=Nov 28 2012, 01:01 PM:name=Jarl Ballin')--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jarl Ballin' @ Nov 28 2012, 01:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2036670"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are you talking about HT Link Width? I can't find any pcie bus settings.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then it can be slot locked. Maybe one of your pcie slots is not 16x by default. Try other slots and check the speed with something like gpuz.
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    edited November 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2037053:date=Nov 28 2012, 10:33 PM:name=kalakuja)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kalakuja @ Nov 28 2012, 10:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037053"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Then it can be slot locked. Maybe one of your pcie slots is not 16x by default. Try other slots and check the speed with something like gpuz.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have gpuz. And this is what it shows. I believe everything is running accordingly. The reason the GPU clock is at 400 is because it's idle. I have it OC'd to 930. It kicks in when I run games.

    <img src="http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/11/29/7sy.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • -FLH--FLH- Join Date: 2012-11-07 Member: 168077Members
    Right, sorry for delay but I put one then two 4890s back in and before the 2nd got upset I found on 1600*1200 all off, no combat >

    1*hd4890 on new build 90fps reported in RR

    2*hd4890 on new build 120fps reported in RR

    1*hd6870 on new build 130fps reported in RR, drops to about 40 with no GPU cue in late game combat, can feel like 12fps depending on map.

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    With all that's been said about CPU factoring more than GPU and that the builds have differed so much in FPS I'm not overly alarmed and expecting a change for the better with newer builds. Fingers crossed.
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  • Jarl Ballin'Jarl Ballin' Join Date: 2012-11-25 Member: 173203Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2037094:date=Nov 28 2012, 11:59 PM:name=-FLH-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (-FLH- @ Nov 28 2012, 11:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2037094"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Right, sorry for delay but I put one then two 4890s back in and before the 2nd got upset I found on 1600*1200 all off, no combat >

    1*hd4890 on new build 90fps reported in RR

    2*hd4890 on new build 120fps reported in RR

    1*hd6870 on new build 130fps reported in RR, drops to about 40 with no GPU cue in late game combat, can feel like 12fps depending on map.

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    With all that's been said about CPU factoring more than GPU and that the builds have differed so much in FPS I'm not overly alarmed and expecting a change for the better with newer builds. Fingers crossed.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Interesting information. On my 5770 I'm reporting 145-150fps in the RR. Experiencing the same FPS drop late game to about 40-50 fps (stuttering 20 fps) in heated situations.
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  • -FLH--FLH- Join Date: 2012-11-07 Member: 168077Members
    edited November 2012
    Unoptimized, new game on a new engine with a ###### load of stuff not in any other game that needs CPU time. We just got to hang in there with our paid for beta testing ;)

    I just have to think back to how readily I paid for NS1, constie, and how many hours of fun that gave me and still gives me and I'm happy again. NS2 as it stands is pretty meh but I hope for good things to come.
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