marine see alien with camouflage?

OwiecPL1986OwiecPL1986 Join Date: 2012-11-21 Member: 172755Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Some unlegal mode was discover?</div>I am really not sure but a few days ago i were playing on alien side and one marine always shoot to me when i were in camouflage. He had too many kills in oposite to other marins.

It's stink for me. Is it possible somebody write mod to game to change look of camouflage alien? I guess game have data about camouflage alien position, so somebody can write mod to change enemy camouflage alien look.

You should do something with that if i have right. That's really unbalance if it is true and soon too many players have mode like that.

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  • DwavenhobbleDwavenhobble Join Date: 2012-12-14 Member: 175044Members
    edited December 2012
    actually I believe the devs said its not possible in this build as there's no camouflage texture files. The only ones are for when the Alien is restoring cloak as otherwise people could do just what's being said and change the camo texture files to be bright red or something.

    Edit: At worst its probably just someone who has made an aimbot or something.
  • Champlo0Champlo0 Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150617Members
    Some people shoot places where they think aliens might be. Especially vents or corners that are common hiding places.
  • OwiecPL1986OwiecPL1986 Join Date: 2012-11-21 Member: 172755Members
    If game on marins side have data about camouflage aliens position it's possible somebody write mod even if game don't have texture files for that. Just read position and put there something, even big red dot.
  • OwiecPL1986OwiecPL1986 Join Date: 2012-11-21 Member: 172755Members
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2045822:date=Dec 14 2012, 12:49 PM:name=Champlo0)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Champlo0 @ Dec 14 2012, 12:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2045822"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Some people shoot places where they think aliens might be. Especially vents or corners that are common hiding places.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I know but this marin have x10 kills more then others. I don't know, mayby he was so good. But sometimes it was so unbelievable.

    I am only alert about possible situation. Even if he was so good, somebody will write something like that sooner or later. It happen in all good game... :(
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2045827:date=Dec 14 2012, 03:57 PM:name=OwiecPL1986)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OwiecPL1986 @ Dec 14 2012, 03:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2045827"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I know but this marin have x10 kills more then others. I don't know, mayby he was so good. But sometimes it was so unbelievable.

    I am only alert about possible situation. Even if he was so good, somebody will write something like that sooner or later. It happen in all good game... :(<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As far as I know there's 1 free wallhack for NS2 that's currently VAC banned, and 1 hack that is "better" that must be paid for. Those are the only publically available hacks for NS2 at this time.

    Good players will cold shoot for skulks they know are cloaked. It's not usually a red flag for a highly skilled player to have a much higher K/D than the rest of his team in NS2. In fact, in NS2 I would say you can never actually identify someone as a hacker by his score. Very skilled players tend to have higher scores than hackers can get (because shooting well is not the most important skill as a player in this game, moving right, being in the right positions, and using ammo on the right things at the right times are much more vital)

    There are many many skilled players in NS2 right now, but very few real hackers. Please be careful when accusing people. You are more LIKELY to be running into a skilled player than a hacker.
  • sloesloe Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18968Members
    What about DLL Injectors like this crap?

    <a href="http://www.unknowncheats.me/downloads/downloads/321_PBK.png" target="_blank">http://www.unknowncheats.me/downloads/downloads/321_PBK.png</a>

    Are there any preventative measures against injecting code into a running process (ns2.exe)?
  • Dark_DragonDark_Dragon Join Date: 2007-12-21 Member: 63229Members, Constellation
    VAC detects manipulated game code and sends info about what you are doing to be analyzed, not saying VAC is iron clad, as its not, but still.
  • sloesloe Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18968Members
    edited December 2012
    Here's a forum thread about the NS2 hack:

    <!--coloro:orange--><span style="color:orange"><!--/coloro-->*snip*
    Please don't directly post links here but mail or PM them to UWE, thanks!<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

    Users say it is working as of Dec 15, still undetected by the recent VAC addition to NS2...though no guarantee that VAC won't start detecting it in the future.
  • TroubleshooterTroubleshooter Join Date: 2012-11-15 Member: 171559Members
    Because the client always knows were aliens are, writing programs that manipulate DirectX can be used to put overlays on the game that points out this data... if you have even basic Dx skills, you can do this too.

    There's no way to detect this that I'm aware of. If there were, AAA titles like BF3 would have stamped out 80% of cheats out there... UWE is going to have a hard time keeping up with disallowed mods alone given how accessible they've made NS2, so if someone is going to put in the effort to cheat, it probably a safe bet they will get away with it.

    All that having been said, you are going to find cheats in every game ever released for multiplayer. The best thing to do is just accept that it happens and make the most of the experience. I outplay most BF3 players with or without cheats because cheaters tend to be bad players. Short of aim-botting and damage hacks (as seend in BF3) you can generally outplay them just by being smarter about positioning and using the map to your advantage.

    In NS2, if you are relying on your camo to get you up close and its not working, just get it in your head that it's not ever going to work... don't go attacking areas where suspected cheats are if you're not good enough to just beat them/their hax. Take down undefended RT's, harass their tech points, and if all else fails, just find a new server. There's no point in getting mad about the situation, they might be hacking they might be just really too good for you... but you won't know for sure 90% of the time what the situation is so either find a way to be effective or find a server where your abilities match the skill of the players around you.
  • gnoarchgnoarch Join Date: 2012-08-29 Member: 156802Members, Reinforced - Gold
    edited December 2012
    <img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img829/4034/senzanome120.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • goblingoblin Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31412Members
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2047204:date=Dec 17 2012, 04:40 PM:name=sloe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sloe @ Dec 17 2012, 04:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2047204"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here's a forum thread about the NS2 hack:

    *snip*
    Please don't directly post links here but mail or PM them to UWE, thanks!

    Users say it is working as of Dec 15, still undetected by the recent VAC addition to NS2...though no guarantee that VAC won't start detecting it in the future.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks for your e-mail. We have already reported this cheat to Valve to add to VAC.
    Max<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thank you for the report. We have already got that one entered into the system.
    Brian Cronin<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Appears UWE is already aware, locking this topic.
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