arrogant commander

JuomariJuomari Join Date: 2012-11-05 Member: 167141Members
edited December 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">i'm so bad...</div>so, we had this commander who said he's top clan competetive player who has never lost a competetive game, in a public game.

he was fine at commanding but he's attitude was horrible, everytime we failed to do something ( as in we followed his orders but just died ) he complained to us how bad and noobish we are, using words like "what the ###### you do, what the ######" etc, we had upperhand in the map control etc.

so, i just tried to play as best as i can, but i just lost it when he complained to me "stop ######ing asking for ammo" when i had 0 ammo and i was in the field( and i asked ammo just for once, to be clear on this). So, after that i just spammed non-stop ammo and medpacks even when i didn't need them, and he went berserk, i had fun time, he complained that he can't command such noobish team as he had and how i ruined his commanding while spamming med and ammo, but as commander i know it's not gamebreaking, it's annoying as hell but not gamebreaking ahh... good times, if i managed to annoy him i'm proud of my self. eventually, he left the game.

just to be clear, i would have never done that if he wouldn't be so arrogant.

any toughts ? want to flame me ?

Comments

  • wulfwulf Join Date: 2008-08-03 Member: 64749Members
    if someone needs to let you know they're competitive nobility and never ever lose then they're either trolling you or take this game too seriously.
    griefing back is the way to go- but no real use posting about someone like this on the forums.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=2046752:date=Dec 16 2012, 05:52 PM:name=Juomari)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Juomari @ Dec 16 2012, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046752"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->any toughts ? want to flame me ?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href="http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Looks+_fa7489be451e50b69315fc342dbc6f97.jpg" target="_blank">I guess you ccould say...</a>


    ...his pubstomping winning streak is over<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9rD4Paq0zE" target="_blank">!</a>
  • Champlo0Champlo0 Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150617Members
    I got up today and I said to myself nothing, because that's what I expected of today, and you sir have delivered just that. Who cares about people like that.
  • MestaritonttuMestaritonttu Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30229Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    I got up today and I said to myself death is inevitable and everything you say or do will be futile due to eventual extinction of human race but nice story tho, everything went as expected/should.
  • Omar - The WireOmar - The Wire Join Date: 2012-11-01 Member: 165320Members
    edited December 2012
    How about arrogant pub players?

    Pub all-stars who can barely muster a positive K:D ratio, yelling about how wrong you are doing as a commander, despite the things going wrong not being the fault of strategy or commander execution.

    Nothing more infuriating than hearing "commander is a noob" when team refuses to pressure any key points, doesn't win engagements on a regular basis and is oblivious to lack of consistent res flow.

    It more than goes both ways for "people talking down to people" in the commander / ground unit sense.
  • JuomariJuomari Join Date: 2012-11-05 Member: 167141Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2046790:date=Dec 16 2012, 11:58 AM:name=Omar - The Wire)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Omar - The Wire @ Dec 16 2012, 11:58 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046790"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How about arrogant pub players?

    Pub all-stars who can barely muster a positive K:D ratio, yelling about how wrong you are doing as a commander, despite the things going wrong not being the fault of strategy or commander execution.

    Nothing more infuriating than hearing "commander is a noob" when team refuses to pressure any key points, doesn't win engagements on a regular basis and is oblivious to lack of consistent res flow.

    It more than goes both ways for "people talking down to people" in the commander / ground unit sense.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    this is so true, even if the player is right, he should follow the commander's orders, no matter how noobish they are, all though try to explain them friendly why something else might be better.

    I really felt bad in my game because our team had 3 rookies, i hope they didn't get wrong image of player base or that this game is like HoN or Lol or dota where everyone is just flaming each others for little mistakes.
  • TimMcTimMc Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143945Members
    Arrogant people are annoying, news at 11.
  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    No "top clan competitive player" would say such a thing, it was obviously a troll or someone thinking he's actually a "top" player but in reality, mediocre.
  • Cat-PokerCat-Poker Join Date: 2012-08-28 Member: 156670Members
    Starting to notice the friendly community we had in beta is growing more and more hostile. Yeah, there were a few bad apples in beta, but with only 200 or so players at peak time, they were few and far between. Maybe a call for civility is is order? I know I am guilty of getting angry and voicing those frustrations over teamspeak, but I try my best to keep my composure most games. It's something we all have to work for if we still want reviewers and rookies to keep complementing the community.
  • greenpeegreenpee Join Date: 2012-04-10 Member: 150218Members
    This is the beauty of Mumble and other 3rd party voice programs. You can talk all kinds of ###### about people in there and be pissed, and not appear any worse for it. People just have a hard time saying they might not be godlike at something, and damn you straight to hell for telling them otherwise.

    And yes, the Commander-Field players relationship is mutual. A bad commander who's willing to listen to good players can actually be carried, but if the field players can't win their engagements, there's nothing a commander can do. And no, spamming medpacks is not the answer.
  • PurelyCoincidentalPurelyCoincidental Join Date: 2012-12-02 Member: 173921Members
    Yeah, that's annoying. So are backseat commanders. If I am trying to com Marines and someone keeps telling me how to do it, I just get out of the chair and tell them to com. I mean, since they know so well.
  • greenpeegreenpee Join Date: 2012-04-10 Member: 150218Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2046862:date=Dec 16 2012, 06:26 PM:name=PurelyCoincidental)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PurelyCoincidental @ Dec 16 2012, 06:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046862"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, that's annoying. So are backseat commanders. If I am trying to com Marines and someone keeps telling me how to do it, I just get out of the chair and tell them to com. I mean, since they know so well.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hahah yeah, I talk about this all the time in mumble... If i've got three Hives up and every trait researched or whatever, people bug out if i jump out of the chair and help to break the siege. "OMG WE HAVE NO COMMANDER?!" And yes, I've seen exactly that typed out, and I wasn't even done evolving into my gorge.
  • MestaritonttuMestaritonttu Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30229Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=2046864:date=Dec 17 2012, 02:28 AM:name=greenpee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (greenpee @ Dec 17 2012, 02:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046864"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hahah yeah, I talk about this all the time in mumble... If i've got three Hives up and every trait researched or whatever, people bug out if i jump out of the chair and help to break the siege. "OMG WE HAVE NO COMMANDER?!" And yes, I've seen exactly that typed out, and I wasn't even done evolving into my gorge.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is extremely common, and weird too - They have time to check if there's a commander, but somehow they forget if there ever was one, when they check for one and there is none? @_@ ???
  • Hunter.S.T.Hunter.S.T. Join Date: 2012-05-26 Member: 152596Members
    Hi juo.

    You are a horrendusly bad player, you spammed me for medpacks and ammo from the moment i got in the chair, and sat trying to give me advice whilst sitting on 5 kills for 20 deaths.

    You actually spammed me so much that i discoverd a new game bug, the chair bugged, and i froze following your noobery, unable to move the map to look elsewhere, with my position only changing as you spammed your next request. During that time we lost nanogrid, and a bunch of arcs that i was unable to make kill cargo hive.

    So yeah, well done, you basically ruined a game for 23 people, or at least the other 11 that were on my team.

    Did you notice that no one else on the team was complaining about me??? Did you notice that EVERYONE on the team with a mike was telling you to stop requesting ammo and shut up until you killed something?

    I noticed that... o yes.

    Im hoping that someone from the team work and tatics server actually gets back to me so that i can report you as a laming, trolling nowit noob that needs banning.

    Nice thread .
  • Hunter.S.T.Hunter.S.T. Join Date: 2012-05-26 Member: 152596Members
    And as for saying i never lost a match, i said nothing of the kind. I said that thirsty were as yet undefeated in the league.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited December 2012
    Hunter, pulling competitive experience in a pub is like whipping your ###### out at a baseball game. Nobody cares, and you make yourself look bad for making a big deal out of it. Undefeated or not, whether you're Fana or TastyCakes. You don't need to prove anything to anybody who gets on your ass, and trying to is typically an exercise in futility.
  • Hunter.S.T.Hunter.S.T. Join Date: 2012-05-26 Member: 152596Members
    edited December 2012
    i didnt mate... i was chatting to people on the server, saying i was just warming up for a league match, people asking questions, me answering, friendly banter.

    This was before the game juo has posted about.

    And i didnt try to proove anything to this muppet either, i just wrote down his steam id, apologised to my team for leaving them mid game (and had some of them apologise to me for having juo ruin the game) and left for a different server.
  • TunskaTunska Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14176Members
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect" target="_blank">Dunning-Kruger effect</a>
  • Hunter.S.T.Hunter.S.T. Join Date: 2012-05-26 Member: 152596Members
    edited December 2012
    Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Not really, more like : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect" target="_blank">Online Disinhibition Effect</a>
  • TunskaTunska Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14176Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2046898:date=Dec 17 2012, 02:40 AM:name=Hunter.S.T.)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hunter.S.T. @ Dec 17 2012, 02:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046898"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Not really, more like : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect" target="_blank">Online Disinhibition Effect</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src="http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28609793.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    Yay!

    Talking about bad experiences, I had a guy who refused to move out of the base unless I scanned everywhere he went nonstop.
  • MestaritonttuMestaritonttu Join Date: 2004-07-29 Member: 30229Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=2046898:date=Dec 17 2012, 03:40 AM:name=Hunter.S.T.)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hunter.S.T. @ Dec 17 2012, 03:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046898"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not really, more like : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effect" target="_blank">Online Disinhibition Effect</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nothing wrong about that one though. Oh no! You're acting different in a different environment! How terrible! Lets see the listed consequences: "possible cyber-bullying" ........oh dear God, not that........
  • LilbitHeartlessLilbitHeartless Join Date: 2012-11-19 Member: 172517Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2046864:date=Dec 16 2012, 03:28 PM:name=greenpee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (greenpee @ Dec 16 2012, 03:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046864"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hahah yeah, I talk about this all the time in mumble... If i've got three Hives up and every trait researched or whatever, people bug out if i jump out of the chair and help to break the siege. "OMG WE HAVE NO COMMANDER?!" And yes, I've seen exactly that typed out, and I wasn't even done evolving into my gorge.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not the worst thing in the world that teams are aware that there is no commander. I've seen comms leave because of computer issues, or got kicked because of trollers, or bailed because I can only assume real life stuff came up (usually they say something but i think people miss it in the middle of overly loud battle). Alien side this isn't really a big thing but should be taken care of decently fast. Marine side I can see panic because trollers have the ability to recycle all the things.

    and i seriously rarely know the name of the comm, you're the guy with the name that comes up yellow when you talk, so I can't just check and see if you're still in the game.
  • NeoRussiaNeoRussia Join Date: 2012-08-04 Member: 154743Members
    90% of of all servers

    commanders never respond to healthpack or ammo needs even when you spam them and ask over the mic
    try to give tips you are told off or ignored
    commanders think they know what they are doing but they really don't

    this is why I play combat.
  • HeatSurgeHeatSurge Some Guy Join Date: 2012-09-15 Member: 159438Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited December 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2046752:date=Dec 16 2012, 10:52 AM:name=Juomari)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Juomari @ Dec 16 2012, 10:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2046752"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->so, we had this commander who said he's top clan competetive player who has never lost a competetive game, in a public game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is not a game of commander vs. commander. A commander doesn't win the game, the team does. You can have a horrible commander win a game against an awesome commander if the awesome commander's team is bad. You can't shoot from the command chair, so if your team can't, you're done.

    As far as arrogance, I don't really mind. I only care if someone's good or not.
  • AmbAmb Join Date: 2012-11-09 Member: 168647Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    the fact of the matter is, the dude shot 4 for 20, that's terra bad, and he has the audacity to come on this forum to ###### about his comm.
  • DavilDavil Florida, USA Join Date: 2012-08-14 Member: 155602Members, Constellation
    edited December 2012
    I think this topic is completely pointless and honestly deserving of a lock for being nothing more than a flame war. The way I see it, someone is complaining on the forum about someone saying something. And someone else is defending his reputation when he wasn't even called out specifically in the first place. I mean really, if you weren't talking ###### to begin with why even bother acknowledging it, he didn't mention your name. And to the OP, so what if he is being a jerk? Just vote to kick him or go to a different server, this game isn't fun to play by yourself, I assure you.
  • Hunter.S.T.Hunter.S.T. Join Date: 2012-05-26 Member: 152596Members
    yeah... ur right davil.

    Guy just rubbed me up the wrong way, i should have ignored this thread.
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Indeed. This thread is going no-where

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