Wheres the admins of UWE?
Tigri
Join Date: 2013-04-09 Member: 184722Members
Join Date: 2013-04-09 Member: 184722Members
Hello
I have been playing ns2 now for 244hrs. I love the game & mostly i play in UWE official servers.
Lately there have been trolls ruining the game in official servers and theres no way to kick/ban those players by other players.
So i am asking; where are the admins of UWE when we need them? Theres not that many official servers running at the same time with players on, so i cant see that as a problem to have at least one admin to keep justice in place.
Other solution could be a votekick system with a small time ban (10minutes or so).
For example last game i had, we had a troll commander who sold the only RT and wasted all res for ammo, after that he went to spectator mode.
He managed to make this happen at least three times in a row.
When we made it faster to the commander chair, this troll joined in aliens & went to alien comm, he dropped hive next to our (marine) base and went to spectator mode again.
We made a deal with alien team that we wont shoot the hive down because it was dropped by that troll. After hearing that this troll joined a marine team & started killing the hive.
Snip - No name and shame, use PMs
- GISP
Those people are killing the server.
I dont find it as a solution to change server because theres not many UWE servers running same time with players on.
I have been playing ns2 now for 244hrs. I love the game & mostly i play in UWE official servers.
Lately there have been trolls ruining the game in official servers and theres no way to kick/ban those players by other players.
So i am asking; where are the admins of UWE when we need them? Theres not that many official servers running at the same time with players on, so i cant see that as a problem to have at least one admin to keep justice in place.
Other solution could be a votekick system with a small time ban (10minutes or so).
For example last game i had, we had a troll commander who sold the only RT and wasted all res for ammo, after that he went to spectator mode.
He managed to make this happen at least three times in a row.
When we made it faster to the commander chair, this troll joined in aliens & went to alien comm, he dropped hive next to our (marine) base and went to spectator mode again.
We made a deal with alien team that we wont shoot the hive down because it was dropped by that troll. After hearing that this troll joined a marine team & started killing the hive.
Snip - No name and shame, use PMs
- GISPThose people are killing the server.
I dont find it as a solution to change server because theres not many UWE servers running same time with players on.
Comments
PM or Steam - both go to my phone.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960471387/
There are many of us.. but I am so far the only one who advertises it.
Also, here is the steam group page of all NS2 server admins in case you are on a non official server:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ns2serveradmins
edit: Have any evidence of this trolling?
PM me instead with names and evidence.
Thanks
:P
No this will be heavily abused
Counterexample: Minecraft Alpha, where you couldn't even kill people in multiplayer. God that was horrible. It was at that time that stupid troll face started circulating and then it got popular with the kids.
Now if the vote kick system were to only work for players on the same team, that might help me (but not the guy having a bad day who goes 0 14 and gets booted by a team who don't like carrying the extra weight!).
I can't see a way this wouldn't be abused, unfortunately.
Thankfully we have some fine, upstanding admins like IronHorse and "the others" as has been mentioned above!
It will focus on map vote and team assignment to start.
Cool. Although I fear for the in game witch hunts from players that are too good if you implement vote kicking. I'm assuming that by team assignment you mean random all. So that should be interesting.
In my experience people only get vote kicked if they're idiots, or team killers.
Maybe something based along the lines of your score the last few games on the server (that would count say up to the the last 3 maps you've been playing on the server - obviously this would only go into effect on the following match after you achieve a score) could balance teams. That way when a server goes random it would effectively balance the teams by the last few matches scores (average of the final scores at the end of the last few games), eg. with 3v3 random teams would be balanced (with made up scores) like this; player A has 5 points, B has 10, C has 15, D has 10, E has 10, and F has 10 you could theoretically balance the teams perfectly by doing any one of the various random 30 point team configurations. As usually the cumulative scores would never be perfectly equal in the possible configurations it would just default to the most balanced combo for the teams.
And I think concede should be able to be voted off if there's a 60% or so server-wide consensus on disabling/enabling concede at any time This way if most players feel a game is continuing along in a fun way it basically tells those who would otherwise concede that 3/5 of the players on the server want to finish the match. A lot of time I feel games are going great and even if the other team is losing I'd like to finish the match rather then see them concede. A little arrogant sounding but I feel it's justified if 60% of the players feel that way about the match.
I think this would help a lot with balancing issues.
I've been votekicked by simple large group of trollers who join together, also I've been votekicked for "cheating" and I assume many others have had the same experience
Responsible admins are the best way to deal with these things
Also: How is that any different than a group of trollers purposely recycling everything repeatedly?
Not all servers can have an admin on 24/7.
People will game any system put in place.
We can't vote kick, so people act like douchenozzles with impunity.
If we had vote kick, there would be some bad kicks(New people, hackusations, groups of trolls).
I think vote kick is the lesser of two evils, as it puts control back in the players hands.
At least this way it takes a majority on the server, not just one.
I do agree that diligent admins are the best solution though. Although some sort of votekick would be nice to put the fear of God into the more impudent trolls, some of the people who troll this game have no shame, the cunts.
If you could kick people from the other team, it'd be dumb.
You'd just have people kicking the other team's com "for the lulz".
Kicking would also have to be (nearly) unanimous.
ie: Minimum 75-80%(excluding the kickee) of a team would have to vote to kick someone.
1) Nobody cares and the vote is ignored
2) Nobody knows how to vote despite the prompt on the screen
3) Nobody on the other team knows how to start a vote so I have to wait till a spot clears in order to switch sides
4) Get kicked by a group of friends trying to turn a public server into a private one
5) Get kicked by people who've never seen twitch aim before
6) Successfully kick the troll/cheater! They disconnect before the vote registers and reconnects. Revoting is on a cooldown timer.
I'm hoping that in NS2, at least people will listen and participate on voting, especially since most players use voice communication. Most other games there is zero communication going on besides insults.
Worked correctly in cs and quake ctf for years imo
You only got kicked in CS or Quake for being an idiot.
If there are enough people to randomly votekick, then there are enough people to ruin any games on the server anyway. I'd rather find this out before rather than during or after a wasted match.
L4D
It is painfully easy to troll people with vote kick there.
Yeah that would be easy.
Don't think that's gonna happen with 8 to 12 on a team..
Only systems when people see a vote and start asking "why" do not work.