How to change commander binds?

remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
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Whenever I'm commanding I hit C to get a more familiar (and faster access) minimap. Unfortunately, this also is the hotkey to upgrade a hive to shade, and to research flamethrowers. Is there any way to get the C button to not be used by the commander UI (and if a mod is required, a way that would get past consistency checking)?

Not fun to get yelled at for accidentally going shade first! :)
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    They can be changed in some config file I'm sure you can find with google, only problem is it's consistency checked and blocked.
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Unfortunately, for now, the commander keys are hard coded (Frustrating for a PC game, i know)
    This is why the default map key was switched to something like M iirc a few months back.
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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    :(
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  • UzverUzver Join Date: 2012-11-20 Member: 172632Members, Reinforced - Silver
    edited May 2013
    Don't listen to these guys. Just read this topic.
    Ghosthree3 wrote: »
    They can be changed in some config file I'm sure you can find with google, only problem is it's consistency checked and blocked.
    Wrong. Because it's contains individual settings about your mouse sensitivity, keyboard binds, armor type, sound volume and etc. So, it's impossible to check consistency of this file because it's always different for every player.
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  • LocklearLocklear [nexzil]kerrigan Join Date: 2012-05-01 Member: 151403Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, WC 2013 - Shadow
    IronHorse wrote: »
    Unfortunately, for now, the commander keys are hard coded (Frustrating for a PC game, i know)

    R o f l
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  • UncleCrunchUncleCrunch Mayonnaise land Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41365Members, Reinforced - Onos
    @OP: Play commander with an AZERTY (or european) keyboard. You would think your problem is a glitch compared to european players.
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Uzver wrote: »
    Don't listen to these guys. Just read this topic.
    Ghosthree3 wrote: »
    They can be changed in some config file I'm sure you can find with google, only problem is it's consistency checked and blocked.
    Wrong. Because it's contains individual settings about your mouse sensitivity, keyboard binds, armor type, sound volume and etc. So, it's impossible to check consistency of this file because it's always different for every player.

    That's not the config file I was talking about. It MIGHT be a lua file even, I don't know. I'm not talking about the config file in appdata though.
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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited May 2013
    Awesome. I changed C to V and V to B:

    You can do so yourself in
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\<numbers>\4920\remote\options.xml

    No more accidental shade hive!
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Another workaround is to use AutoHotkey to reroute your key presses.
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    That wouldn't help against things like pressing c brings up the map though.
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Locklear wrote: »
    IronHorse wrote: »
    Unfortunately, for now, the commander keys are hard coded (Frustrating for a PC game, i know)

    R o f l
    I don't actually know what precisely you find funny about that? :-/
    I find it highly frustrating, annoying, and sad, personally.
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  • LocklearLocklear [nexzil]kerrigan Join Date: 2012-05-01 Member: 151403Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited May 2013
    IronHorse wrote: »
    Locklear wrote: »
    IronHorse wrote: »
    Unfortunately, for now, the commander keys are hard coded (Frustrating for a PC game, i know)

    R o f l
    I don't actually know what precisely you find funny about that? :-/
    I find it highly frustrating, annoying, and sad, personally.

    I find humor in the fact that this problem still persists.
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  • UncleCrunchUncleCrunch Mayonnaise land Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41365Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Locklear wrote: »
    IronHorse wrote: »
    Locklear wrote: »
    IronHorse wrote: »
    Unfortunately, for now, the commander keys are hard coded (Frustrating for a PC game, i know)

    R o f l
    I don't actually know what precisely you find funny about that? :-/
    I find it highly frustrating, annoying, and sad, personally.

    I find humor in the fact that this problem still persists.

    More sad than funny IMO. Ridiculous would be it.

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  • UzverUzver Join Date: 2012-11-20 Member: 172632Members, Reinforced - Silver
    Ghosthree3 wrote: »
    Uzver wrote: »
    Don't listen to these guys. Just read this topic.
    Ghosthree3 wrote: »
    They can be changed in some config file I'm sure you can find with google, only problem is it's consistency checked and blocked.
    Wrong. Because it's contains individual settings about your mouse sensitivity, keyboard binds, armor type, sound volume and etc. So, it's impossible to check consistency of this file because it's always different for every player.

    That's not the config file I was talking about. It MIGHT be a lua file even, I don't know. I'm not talking about the config file in appdata though.
    Really I don't understand why you and IronHorse starts this topic by talking about hard coded and consistency checked stuff, when you can change these binds by editing the config file in appdata. The author of this topic will think that it's impossible to change binds at all.
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  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Mind saying which file? Because I don't know which one you're talking about.
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  • LeChatChouetteLeChatChouette Join Date: 2013-06-20 Member: 185626Members
    Hi guys,

    Iua file can't be changed, it corrupts the game.
    And in this file (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\<numbers>\4920\remote\options.xml) commander shortcuts don't appear.

    So it seems curently impossible to change shortcuts :(
    Any solution ?

    Thanks

    Sorry, english isn't my native language ;)
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  • SanthoranSanthoran Join Date: 2013-04-14 Member: 184809Members
    You switch the default keys in the options.xml, so for example Y with Z (qwerty/qwertz keyboards), if it still works.
    Should then look like the following
    <Z>Y</Z>
    <Y>Z</Y>
    Would work like when you press Z as if you have pressed Y and vice versa.
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  • kalakujakalakuja Join Date: 2012-09-11 Member: 159045Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter
    autohotkey...
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Sure you can swap it around but it will conflict with hot keys and typical bindings so i dont suggest that. You'll accidently research or recycle something in my experience..
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