Weld issue

RundervinkjeRundervinkje Join Date: 2009-08-10 Member: 68413Members, Reinforced - Shadow
edited June 2013 in Mapping
Maybe this is not the place for these kind of questions, but i've started mapping, but i can't see to weld faces togheter.
I select the two faces i want to weld and either options of welding (- near vertices and - selected vertices) doesn't work.
Can someone help me to tell how to weld two faces togheter? Because i want to similer shapes at either side of the ready room.

(why can't this be like solidworks =( ?)

Many thanks in advance cause i got this great idea for a map.

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  • ObliviousSightObliviousSight Join Date: 2012-09-07 Member: 158306Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    You can't just weld two faces together in the way you are trying to I'm afraid. You have to weld vertices instead.

    Take what you have there and put two vertices on the bottom edge of the rear piece of geo where you want your smaller geo to join, and then delete the face on that large one.

    Then move the smaller piece into place over those vertices that you just created. Select all of it, edges, faces and vertices and use the 'weld near verticies' command (Found under the 'Edit' menu). Then just select all the edges that make up the empty face and use the 'create face' command ('Edit' menu again).

    Hope that was clear enough, I'm not good at teaching.
  • =Mr.P==Mr.P= Join Date: 2012-02-20 Member: 147025Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2013
    hey her you have picture tutorial
    step 1
    f1_zps0a23f6e6.png
    first you delete the center peace (not the lines around it)

    step 2
    f2_zpsf6a247d1.png
    after you weld near vertices, you delete the line in the bottom (the red arrow show`s)

    step 3
    f3_zpsf8116f83.png
    use the line tool (like in the picture)

    step 4
    f4_zps958b10bd.png
    mark all the lines and push the button to create a face

    this is what you end up with
    f5_zps44fa4cea.png

    i hope this help for some one
  • ObliviousSightObliviousSight Join Date: 2012-09-07 Member: 158306Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    ^^ Nice. Better than my wordy way of explaining things Mr. P.
  • RundervinkjeRundervinkje Join Date: 2009-08-10 Member: 68413Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2013
    Oké awesome that worked. Funny enough, it was a combo of your explanations that did the trick for me. For other people who have the same problem, here is the n00b explanation:
    In picture you see that none of the frames i want to 'combine' have a face! Delete them both, then you end op with the frame. Place two dots/vertices/points on the lower line of the frame. Select all of your smaller frame, move it over the 2 dots and click the weld command. And you end up with pic2.

    But then i run into a different problem. I can't create a proper face.
    If i delete the blue line in picture 3 the floor face dissapears. And if I redraw the top line like in picture 4, It becomes one giant face WITH the smaller frame just being ignored.
    What are the terms of creating a face?
  • =Mr.P==Mr.P= Join Date: 2012-02-20 Member: 147025Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    you have to build the wall end floor separated and weld them together
    by marking the corners on the end of the wall and floor
  • Evil_bOb1Evil_bOb1 Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 938Members, Squad Five Blue
    To create a face you need to select all bounding lines.

    In your example above I believe your door might not be properly welded, or sometimes cases with intricacies have issues. You could just delete the face that appears when you seal it off, select the lines bounding the face you want and alt+c, you probably need selection mode to create faces, shortcut being space.

    Another way of going about your problem would be to draw the door's edges on the back face.
  • RundervinkjeRundervinkje Join Date: 2009-08-10 Member: 68413Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Awesome, many thanks!

    Again, n00bish terms.
    Pic 1, build you wall completely. Slide it into place (pic 2)
    And just select the corners (round circles) and weld. ONLY select the corners! no lines or faces.
    Afterwards, test!
  • Evil_bOb1Evil_bOb1 Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 938Members, Squad Five Blue
    Why are you so keen on welding bits and pieces? What you have there can be built in place pretty easily :p

    In selection mode, if you 'weld near vertices' only superimposing vertices will weld, whatever else you have selected. If you 'weld selected' all selected vertices will merge, whatever else you have selected.
  • RundervinkjeRundervinkje Join Date: 2009-08-10 Member: 68413Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Because i wanted the shape exactly on the other side. Started on the ready room just to get hang of the programs functions.
    Suggest a different way?
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