Ns... Teaching Us To Be Brave Or Whimpy?

Archzai · January 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">The differences in races</div> ok ... i NS... i know its all teamwork and i mostly stick with the teamwork...

but i feel like aliens encourages being more daring... ie... running into an outpost killing their phase gate and going against turrets ... becuase:

ur resrouces are ur own.. u can risk it when u can afford to go fade again right away.

i normally am more risky and daring.. trying to run in when the HA GL guy is solo and whack him to death.... since he has no HMG to help him at poiont blank) and shooting a GL will also hurt him

but when im alien... sometimes i feel the team isn't willing to risk killing fades even if it meant a turning point in the game.. cuz:

the COMM equips us and if we die.... then he might think we aren't worthy.. etc etc.. and it also takes him so long to equip (except pro comms)

somteims... i feel like people either over estimate the power of a fade or underestimate.... or maybe its jus the server i played in <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'> cuz a light armor marine had a knife and a fade was runing -.-

what the point of this post is... as fades.. people seem more wiling to die... (if they aren't concerned with their score) but aren't as willing to hunt fades down etc when they are marines... i jus feel like the solo resrouce for aliens encourages it....

what are ur ideas??

btw... im

-k3 ] | Bl@ZeR

jus wonderin if ive ever played wif ny of u guys <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Supernorn · January 2003

i once chased a fade with a knife...you may of been the person next to me...lol
i was under the name of "n00b" then...until i became at least partially better than some people...then i revealed my true identity...hehe

Doombringer · January 2003

Yes, you have a point. Many times have I seen a commander completely destroy a player for "wasting HA" or "losing the HMG" because it cost them 20-some-odd resources to make. I think the fact that the marine resources come from one pool (as opposed to being distributed evenly) really instills a heavy sense of caution in players. If anything, it forces the comm to worry about who should get the only HA/HMG.. on top of all the other things he's already worrying about :/

I know that if resources are tight, I will not pick up HA or HMG/GL (or even shotgun, but that's because I suck at using it). If I do happen to have one of these guns and I see a teammate who is obviously more skilled than I, I will gladly hand over my HMG/GL/whatever to that person.

sySTEm1 · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Jan 5 2003, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>i was under the name of "n00b" then...until i became at least partially better than some people...then i revealed my true identity...hehe</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
rofl? didnt we all :E

kolokol · January 2003

Fades are in fact underpowered, two lmg marines with upgraded weapons hurt like hell.

AcKz · January 2003

I just think public servers are exactly what they are, and bring newbies in who don't know how to play the god damn game, and go off and rambo. In a match situation, if you plan on ramboing I hope youre ready to wait 10secs to spawn.

uranium_235 · January 2003

I once chased a fade with a knife.

What's even funnier is I killed him with it too.

L3TUC3 · January 2003

Once a marine chased me with a knife.

What's even funnier I killed him! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'>

andyaml · January 2003

I think it'd be nice to see some people actually be brave and head out against a fade attacking your base. Far too often I see a bunch of marines hiding behind a wall because they don't want to die. I mean, really, what are you accomplishing by hiding? If you're basically fresh out of spawn, and haven't been given equipment, then what are you hiding for? Will hiding get the fade to leave? No. You have to get a few guys to group up and attack that fade! Even if you can't, I've killed many a fade with only an LMG. How? With the element of surprise. If you manage to jump right in a fade's face, after they've shot off their volley of acid rockets, chances are they'll get flustered and start trying to shoot you with an acid rocket, only to be out of energy and shoot them sporadically, with you taking minimal damage because they're out of energy, or they'll try to quickly switch to slash, only to get nicely acquainted with the business end of your LMG. It's because you surprise them that they panic. They make bad decisions and possibly make that one mistake that costs them their life. So please, marines, if you're just hiding, at least try to get out and fight. It helps a lot more than doing nothing but taking splash damage from an acid rocket.

L3TUC3 · January 2003

Very true indeed, now get them marines of their arses and into my bilebomb/acid barrage.

Nah, seriously, I've been handed my behind to me many a time by lmg's. even knives for pete's sake. Who said marines are h4x0rs...erm...cowards?

masterswordman · January 2003

LMG is really more powerful then people think. I mean you can kill a fade in 2 sec, if you have a perfect aim. And shooting a fade running backwards with nothing to give u is *easy*, I have even seen HA HMG marines hiding behind a wall in ns_tarnith (somethinglike that). Of course the fades were using bile bomb, and there was one onos jackass that destroied the entire base by him self. (There were no turrent farms)

xioutlawix · January 2003

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I *think* respawning marines cost like 2 rp's. This is why solo gunning it as a fade is not something that you should do blindly. Too many people doing this consecutively without coordination accomplishes nothing.

And if the above point is correct, it totals up against your economy.

What people need to start doing is actually moving out in groups. To often the first person just runs storming out of base yelling "Follow me!" And then goes from point A to B without ever looking behind him to make sure people are close at hand.

Dread · January 2003

Yeah, I hate that "RUN TO THE HILLS! Wheres my mommy!? OMFG!111 Fades, we are going to lose!!111" attitude. Im not afraid to die(in game that is) so I just usually rush onwards and get killed while other marines get killed while turtling in base. Once we had an awesome team which actually rushed the fades together. If those two fades would have had pants they would have messed them when we 5 marines rushed them in eclipse(?) and killed them with ease.

JKooL · January 2003

I think marines respawn for free...

-JKooL

Bone-Prince · January 2003

Once we had a commander that only did upgrades and built alot of Ip's. He told us that its better to have a global upgrade for all then a upgrade on one person. We had control of 2 hives from that tactic because we always attacked non stop and we taken down their defences pretty quick. In the end we got HA's with HMG because of the extra $$$ we had..

Xentor · January 2003

I dunno about you guys, but when I play fade and see more than two marines attacking me, I do a 180 and blink outta there... Those LMGs really do hurt... But hey, that's why we have little winged buddies with protective flatulence <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

King_titan · January 2003

People keep saying "rush the fade and kill him together!!!!!"
so the readers come and reply, "yes its true, I hate it when scared marines dont rush the fade!!! its so easy to kill a fade if u rush him!!!"

The problem that everyone is overlooking is, this is a rare occurance and quite frankly if you see a fade lonely, he's a 'newb'
You cant forget that once they get 2 hives up, the game doesnt automatically become 6 lmg marines vs 1 fade. it becomes 4 fades 1 lerk and gorge? vs 6 lmg marines. So coming here and preaching on how easy it is to kill a fade if you rush him, is utter ****, because once you kill him you will get pounded by more fades, or like I said he/she has to be one dumb alien to attack a bunch of marines by himself.

Archzai · January 2003

rofl.. it was jus the other day..,.. they ran from LMG mariens.. i managed to take out 3-5 lmg marines.... before blinking out with 20 health or and like 20 armor.... its risky.. yes. but it encourages my team.... im willing to die when i have my 66 resource back.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

and yes... we rarely see a fade solo... and he normally has umbra... running into the cloud to "kill" them only gets urself killed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

seems marines are a very costly race.... 300 RPs can be chewed in no time... 2 lvl2 upgrades is already 80 .... not to mention resseaching HA (i think 45) and actually handing out those weapons...

i feel like HA should also be recycleable.. meaning marines should be able to pick it up ... does ny1 else think so?

Ns... Teaching Us To Be Brave Or Whimpy?

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