Brief Freezes

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  • NeXuSNeXuS US Join Date: 2013-10-13 Member: 188681Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester
    Well, I guess the D drive is faulty. After re-installing ns2 on the c drive it works fine. Thanks for your help IronHorse. :)
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    if your d drive needs replacement and money isnt supertight id go for a hybrid drive. (I could say ssd, but I assume thats to small for your goals)
    hybrid drives have a small ssd cache buildin so its winwin. :D

    for laptops you wanna go for momentus drives:
    http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/laptop-solid-state-hybrid-drive/?sku=ST1000LM014

    Of course it only caches the stuff you load often, but that shouldnt be a real issue as a normal drive has no ssd cache to begin with. :D
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    edited November 2013
    Well glad to hear that was the case, at least, thanks for posting the solution.
    and you're welcome :)

    I recommend steering clear of samsung hard drives, just for the record, i've personally had a really poor experience with them dying over time. (something like 4/5 for me personally )
    Recommend Seagate and Western Digital

  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I attempted to solve the freezes problem by moving the game to a less occupied drive (my C drive which just has windows and some bare bones programs at the moment), freezes doubled in length lol :(
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    @ghosthree3
    I still attest that you should start a new thread and follow what this fellow here did in regards to documenting it for me to analyze.
    If its fileopen issues like he had, then we can begin to narrow it down
  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Been dealing with this issue for 6 months and 2 pc builds (minus hard drives) can I just mail you my pc?
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Really wish i could have my hands on it to diagnose the issue.. would take me an hour to figure it out probably :-P
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    start making plogs @Ghosthree3
    And you DID install your ahci and/or raid drivers DURING win7 install and not after right? Yes, this matters a lot. Kernel starts behaving.... odd if you install ahci later.
  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I don't believe I installed any achi drivers at all. I'll attempt to make plogs.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    @Ghosthree3
    :O
    :O
    :O
    The wut now?

    You must have either ahci OR raid installed AND on in the bios or you are throwing away enormous amounts of performance. (Asuming you have a os higher then xp).
    And ahci drivers, especially for the OS disk, must be supplied during windows install and not after unless you want... odd results. (odd kernel hangs for example).
    It is VERY adviced to run with ahci/raid.
  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited November 2013
    @DC_Darkling

    I updated my bios at some point, almost certain before latest reformat, after installing windows I installed LAN, audio, and usb3.0 drivers. That's all I've done, I thought ahci was included by default in bios? I'm pretty sure I saw at some point in there ahci is turned on. If I've been losing out on shitloads of performance all these years because I was unaware of supplying these drivers when installing windows I'mma be sad.

    I don't raid though, can't really since my big drives are just media/other random storage. All games on one 1tb drive.

    Add me on steam and teach me pls.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    edited November 2013
    Fine you newbie. :D

    A few general points though, I doubt its as worse as you just said. ;)

    IF it is on in the bios, then windows 7 will enable ahci on microsoft drivers. While there give the utmost bare minimum, they do give some performance gain over no ahci.
    Installing correct ahci drivers lateron will also gain some performance.
    Best result is still during windows install with preos/diskette drivers for ahci.
    The bios is just a on/off and does not supply drivers.


    As a side note, I DO use raid (instead of ahci). My data is running in 2 WesternDigital raid edition disks in a raid 1 (mirror) config. (so I dont need to restore from backup if one breaks). (1TB)
    My games are on a raid 1 (mirror) array with 2 seagate hybrid drives. (2TB)
    my os, and currently ns2 is on a sata 6g ssd which runs on my 6g controller.

    Raid isnt just for speed, depending on raid type. :)


    >edit
    also people, do NOT forget to ALSO install chipset drivers! VERY important. Yes, this can be done after windows is installed<

    >edit2
    also get online then, im getting bored. hehe<
  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Why are chipset drivers so important?

    Also the only RAID I think I'd be interested in is 5.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    From wikipedia: A chipset is a set of electronic components in an integrated circuit that manages the data flow between the processor, memory and peripherals.
    Lets just agree its important and move on. Saves a lot of time. I dont wanna get to hardware technical, but end result of installing chipset drivers has always given me more stable systems. :)

    raid 5 takes a lot of disks. :O (and yes, im on steam atm)
  • irickirick florida Join Date: 2013-10-17 Member: 188732Members
    Ghosthree3 wrote: »
    Why are chipset drivers so important?

    Also the only RAID I think I'd be interested in is 5.

    Chipset drivers allow your operating system to take advantage of specific features of your motherboard. In general it will allow smarter I/O control, faster I/O throughput, and a more stable installation.

  • Ghosthree3Ghosthree3 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70557Members, Reinforced - Supporter
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    I dont hate ahci.
    I do hate your mobo. :D
    to be continueeeeed :p
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    Lol this topic should start anew.. So priceless
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