So... Even Repairs Are Slowed?
Neoskeptic
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3161Members
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3161Members
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Any words from the dev?
Its for welding, nothing more.
I'd like to see it do 0 damage against alien/alien buildings.
"But .. what happens if you run out of ammo and you have no pistol because you have the welder you damn n00bz0r!!!11oneoneone"
Well ... A) Your commander should be supporting you and B) Your team should be covering you.
The welder isn't a weapon ... its a welder ... used to open and close things ....
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-JKooL
Its beneficial to aliens and its like a poison to marines ..
its like Salt.
Sure, we can eat salt just fine (well, most of us), but pour that sucker on a slug and see what happens ...
Anyway, I also want to know if repairs/vent-welds are slowed.
I'm just speaking out of prefrence. To me, the welder isn't a weapon, its a tool to get you to different places and to help you secure an area ..
but .. eh .. different strokes I suppose ..
Its beneficial to aliens and its like a poison to marines ..
its like Salt.
Sure, we can eat salt just fine (well, most of us), but pour that sucker on a slug and see what happens ...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, the welding torch is...well... stick that right up to your arm, yes, it's gonna hurt. So doing some damage is realistic, as is that "bacterium" idea.
*Shrug*
Whenever I get a welder kill I say "Yes! Run into the light little skulk!"
Anything that has above a certain heat level can burn you. Welders can even blind you if you stare into the weld. (welding hoods serve 2 purposes, 1. keep hot sparks off your face... 2. dampen the light so you won't end up blinded, impaired, or just hurt.)
The only thing I could see changing about them is giving them charges or a jet-pack like self-charging system. Because welding sticks do run out in real life.
But I wouldn't be hurt if they leave it as is.
Personally I quite like the wealder damage it make sence that wealders would be good for cutting up enemy structures (like yea a gun is really gonna tear through that huge blob of bio-matter SOooo fast).
I just wish they'd make the wealder more directional so its nearly impossible to hit stuff with.
An imbalance in NS for me at the mo is the aliens and marines comparatable effectiveness against structures at the start of the game.
A skulk attacking a res tower has great vision past the res tower, he can hide behind it muching away right up to the point that a marine trys to come round and shoot him at which point he can break off an munch the marine who was foolish enough to give up his range advantage.
A marine attacking a res tower with knife or wealder has pathetic vision, has to change weapons to be effective and is blocking his own field of fire with a huge obstical.
Using a gun is even worse as you'll almost certainly have less than a full clip when a skulk appears and so you'll have to re-load befor you kill it.
This results in the marines only way to 'out res' the aliens being to 1) kill the gorge and 2) build up loads of res towers and defend them..
I don't like playing defencive hence rushing 2 hives to disable their tech because I KNOW I cant disable their res.
BlueGhost
If I get a real welding torch, and stick it in my granny's face, will she take 'no damage'?
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Its for welding, nothing more.
I'd like to see it do 0 damage against alien/alien buildings.
"But .. what happens if you run out of ammo and you have no pistol because you have the welder you damn n00bz0r!!!11oneoneone"
Well ... A) Your commander should be supporting you and B) Your team should be covering you.
The welder isn't a weapon ... its a welder ... used to open and close things ....
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Uhm.. its not a "welder" its a flamethrower...
A skulk attacking a res tower has great vision past the res tower, he can hide behind it muching away right up to the point that a marine trys to come round and shoot him at which point he can break off an munch the marine who was foolish enough to give up his range advantage.
A marine attacking a res tower with knife or wealder has pathetic vision, has to change weapons to be effective and is blocking his own field of fire with a huge obstical.
Using a gun is even worse as you'll almost certainly have less than a full clip when a skulk appears and so you'll have to re-load befor you kill it.
This results in the marines only way to 'out res' the aliens being to 1) kill the gorge and 2) build up loads of res towers and defend them..
I don't like playing defencive hence rushing 2 hives to disable their tech because I KNOW I cant disable their res.
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Which is why you should have someone guarding your back while you cut/burn/shoot at that resource tower. Marines are supposed to move in groups, remember?
Well, why the hell does it say WELDER in console when you kill someone, in the manual, the CC and every frikkin player?
Anyway, I liked the welder better then the pistol. If an alien gets close up and I run out of ammo, I whip out this baby and weld it to death. way more usefull than the pistol with which im bound to miss.
Too bad it gets nerfed.
they always seem to walk by thinking wtf?
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Thanks Flayra, I was curious about this too.
Related to this...could you possibly give out some "hard numbers" on how exactly the Welder works to repair armour and structures? Really no reason for it, just pure curiosity.