The Ns_eclipse Map Bug Must Be Fixed

StormLiong · January 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Should be considered a serious bug</div> I am pretty sure many marine commanders out there have experienced it on NS_Eclipse where you wan to siege Computer Core or Eclipse Command but only to find that you cant even upgrade the turret factory because of that map concering I think with the map brush entity or something like that.

There have been many games when capturing the second hive at CC or EC, i plan to siege it instead cos smart aliens teams would had been able to hold us while enuf to get defenses in it. But then i see that i cant even sisge it cos of that map bug and have to tell marines to kill it by hand when resource wise i am not that ready to hand out hmgs,gls and HAs to make teh job easier.

Sure many would say maybe that I should have rushed teh second hive earlier or I shoudl have teched fast enough to give gls and hmgs. BUt dont you think it is not a normal part of the gameplay to be considering a section of a map unsiegable? I mean if I needed to take that into consideration then the NS team might as well take out teh siege weapons. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'> are there for a reason. And aliens just have an unfair advantage just because one cannot siege from there.

Because of this I think that the map bug and similar bugs that exist on other maps should be fixed as soon as possible and not when the next client patch is released or something (unless it can only be fixed through a client patch).

Right now my only solution to be able to siege in those areas in Eclipse is to
1. The 1st building in that area MUST be the Tfac
2. Once it build upgrade it immediatly
3. Build watever rest is needed
Now this is slow and most of teh time i prefer to put a phase gate first.

I hope to hear some opinions on fixing this big asap and maybe your suggestion on how you go around this bug.

Thx.

masterswordman · January 2003

Same thing, I just can't upgrade the TF, and if I see the upgrade button, it won't do it. Yeah, it sux. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

SO USE <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

INSTEAD OF <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'> **** and so forth

StormLiong · January 2003

Yea most of teh time I do tell them to kill it by hand. Sometimes it works when i ahve teched fast enough or the marines are skilled enough but then as I said before a a marine commander SHOULD NOT be in sucha sitatuion where he cannot siege in an area. It is not part of the gameplay.

rebo · January 2003

Take the comp core hive first (i.e. no siege needed) then take maintinace, there is no siege bug near maintinance on inside of comp core itself.

masterswordman · January 2003

Um, what if the aliens have them already??? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

rebo · January 2003

phase +lmg rush them

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

NeonJam · January 2003

Ahem-

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=18924' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=ST&f=4&t=18924</a>

I can't wait.

StormLiong · January 2003

Thtat kewl ;p
i guess i never saw it cos I rarely go on read the mapping forums. Though I'd hope teh map designer would at laest put out an temporary eclipse map with the bug out (if it is at all possible). Liek i said before it shoudl be considered a serious bug and either get fixed asap or just taken out of gameplay till it is fixed.

nicuss · January 2003

another thing you could do is build a phase, then a tf and maybe some turrets. then get enough people there, recycle the phasegate and upgrade the TF, and rebuild the phase. i think (not sure tho) that if only turrets are around the tf then you'll be able to upgrade it. but if there's a phasegate you most likely won't. the other way is to built the TF wisely in south loop and then just drop a few turrets/siege around the corner and in range of the hive.

The Ns_eclipse Map Bug Must Be Fixed

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