Fades - Enough Of The Same Old. Try New Upgrades

AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
edited January 2003 in NS General Discussion
Had the funnest time today playing as a fade with redemption + celerity on the COFR friends server. I know, everyone says carp + adrenaline, but if you change your playing style and think of the fade as more of a really big skulk then a rocket launching soldier from TFC, you can have a lot of fun.

Redemption is to save you because you'll be playing at close quarters using your swipe instead of your acid rocket. For the same reason, celerity will get in you close very quickly without the risk of getting stuck in random things that blink has. Great fun!

So I'm kinda wondering, what other good upgrade options are there for the various classes?

For example, an umbra-ing lerk with regeneration is a great asset. They hardly ever get hit and can regen almost as fast as they get hurt (except for grenades).

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  • PooPoo Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8686Members
    The only class I get Carapace is with the Skulk. The rest I use Regeneration!

    I love how It feels like I have a constant DC right by me.


    Lerks can use umbra, heal that one hit and keep shooting spines.

    Fades use the hit and run, speed and regeneration works wonders!
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    I usually get Regen / Adren, but ones i got Celerity by mistake, and got 34 kills / 1 death. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    this was covered once, a long time ago, but here are some of the more popular 2-hive combos..

    silence/cloak-don't worry about it anymore, no one can ever go ninja after 2 hives anymore

    silence/regen- just walk behind them, wait for them to forget you're there, and crush them (oh yeah, they can't hear you heal!)

    carp/celerity-really fast tank.

    carp/adren-regen/adren - popular fade acid-spam tactic

    carp/adren- The way to go if you're a gorge (mm, web-healspray spam)

    silence/redemption- "did I get him? Did I get him?"

    I left out things like carp/scent of fear (and adrenaline) because everyone who is anyone knows that gorges that build sensories first are shot and chastized by their own team.

    my favorite combo--Silence/cloak/regen- NINJA!
  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    what I get really depends on the situation, normally I get regen, adren and cloak. But if I know I'm going to be going against alot of marines I get celerity instead of adren and if I know there is a low chance of me having time to hide and heal I get carapace instead of regen. And so on and so forth
  • J2pcJ2pc Join Date: 2002-12-05 Member: 10485Members
    When we've had 2 hives, and we only have 1 left, but we still have movement & def
    I like to skulk-rush with cara/celerity, You're really fast and can take a lot of bullets, took down some ha this way <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LaserApaLaserApa Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1638Members
    Me wants sensory to be more popular... hope they get it right for 1.1
  • UnitUnit Join Date: 2002-08-26 Member: 1230Members
    My specialty is the carapace-celerity Fade, it's a really scary Claws-on-Wheels. I can on average wipe out 7 or 8 marines before I need to run to regenerate, the carapace plus the added strafing-speed makes the Fade a really hard target to hit up-close, as you will be circling the marines constantly, screwing with his mouse-wrist <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> and remember, use BLINK to run away!! Marines are NO MATCH for a hyped-up Fade, especially when it blinks at the correct times.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited January 2003
    40% use Carapace+Adren. 30% use Regen+Celerity. 20% use variations thereof, and the remaining 10% use other combos such as Regen+Silence, or Redemption+Adrenaline.
    Anyone doubt my numbers? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Man it would be great to be able to choose <b>any</b> upgrade from the start, as long as appropriate chamber was built(this means all chambers are buildable even with 1 hive only.), in the way of '# of hives=max # of upgrade types'...
  • BlueGhostBlueGhost Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10337Members
    Coverd alot, my preferanc is: carpice + adren for massive blinking into mele AND spamming acid rocket from afar versatility.

    Carapice is really not an option though for anything less than onos you can get suprised and taken down in a single LMG clip <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    BlueGhost
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    I've been trying "non-standard" combinations for all classes for a while now, and I think my favourite for fade is redemption/silence/scent of fear. I was doing some damage with that last night as a ninja-ish hunter.

    People should change their playing style more - it keeps the game exciting. That's why I sometimes drop a sensory first as a gorge if I know most of the people on my team (otherwise I just get hours of abuse in-game and in IRC and on the server's forums - people are so broad-minded :/ )
  • Vicentegrad_IIVicentegrad_II Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11275Members
    people just don't like change

    they'll stick with what they know works....which means that until 1.1 makes Sensory equally viable in the early-game and this is <i>proven</i> to the average player then we won't see much deviation

    well, deviation without bitching I mean
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Silent But Violent+Jan 11 2003, 05:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silent But Violent @ Jan 11 2003, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I usually get Regen / Adren, but ones i got Celerity by mistake, and got 34 kills / 1 death. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Against what? Marines without any upgrades???
    Because if there would be HA, HMG you would die really fast without carapace, or if weapons power is at level 2 or 3.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    When i am gorge, i always take redemtion/carapace and celebrity. When marine see a gorge, usually he take knife and start to chase you. If you got celebrity, you are way too fast for that marine and it is really fun to run away and keep shooting spit <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GrabesGrabes Join Date: 2002-07-18 Member: 966Members
    That is what i was going to say.

    The only real way to stay alive against HMG's is carapace.

    HMG's rip thru regenartion fades at will becuase you can't regen quick enough to stop that output of bullets.
  • geldonyetichgeldonyetich Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2537Members
    I've had some good luck with redemption lately. It may not be that reliable, but it's great in situaitons where your hive's ability to respawn is being taxxed. Besides, luck out even once with redemption and that's 46 resources you just saved your fade from wasting. THe big downside is sometimes you end up redeeming when you want to stick around longer.
  • Vicentegrad_IIVicentegrad_II Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11275Members
    so Paq, instead of Regen/Adren for Fades, what do you get?

    I haven't played Fade in a long time (not since I got hooked on Lerk!) but I think I would either go with the usual Carapace/Adrenaline or maybe Silence/Regeneration/Cloaking
  • JamlJaml Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9054Members
    One of my favorite combos is carpace/celerity and regen/celerity. I need that cause i love to play close combat lerk. I played as a marine a few days ago and there was that guy that constantly used the lerk bite. He flew to you very fast and dropped on you from above while biting you. He was a pain in the **** since flying lerks are so hard to hit. From then on i learned how to do that and get a hell of a lot of kills with that tactic. Once i flew up to 4 marines and killed them all jumping and flying around them while biting like mad. Celerity is a great update for that since you can move and bite faster.
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