Am I Exploiting?
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aka RpTheHotrodDallas, TX Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12027Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
aka RpTheHotrodDallas, TX Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12027Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
I was told to defend the engine hive room. We have motion tracking. I stay in the middle of the room watching for any motion, killing anything hostile that comes in the room. I see motion that looks like it's heading for the vent. I jump in the vent and kill a skulk that still is probably a good 10 yards away. Suddenly, i get called an exploiter, because if a marine is in a vent, and shoots, it's an exploit. I figure they're just stupid. I realize the hitbox bug, but the skulk couldn't even get close to me in the first place to even attack me. What, I'm going to just let them run in the vent and take the room? Of coarse not!
Well, they kept trying to go in the vent, I kept popping in and shooting them before they even get close. This happens a good 10 times until they stop, but 3 of them keep spamming the game saying I cheat, I exploit, I'm a lamer, I should be banned, etc... I keep telling them, they are dying before they even get CLOSE to me. Then they say "Well, if we COULD get close to you, then we couldnt kill you. It is IMPOSSIBLE to die as a marine if you're in a vent" I'm telling them that..well..first, I COULD be killed still very easily, but the point is, they CAN'T get close to me. I'm using a ranged weapon. of coarse, I'd get out of the vent after the kill to make sure they didn't come through a door or another vent.
All in all, they said if a marine goes into a vent, it's an exploit.
Are they just idiots?
Well, they kept trying to go in the vent, I kept popping in and shooting them before they even get close. This happens a good 10 times until they stop, but 3 of them keep spamming the game saying I cheat, I exploit, I'm a lamer, I should be banned, etc... I keep telling them, they are dying before they even get CLOSE to me. Then they say "Well, if we COULD get close to you, then we couldnt kill you. It is IMPOSSIBLE to die as a marine if you're in a vent" I'm telling them that..well..first, I COULD be killed still very easily, but the point is, they CAN'T get close to me. I'm using a ranged weapon. of coarse, I'd get out of the vent after the kill to make sure they didn't come through a door or another vent.
All in all, they said if a marine goes into a vent, it's an exploit.
Are they just idiots?
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Yep. Sore losers.
If they'd been munching on you for a few minutes, THEN you'd managed to kill them, they'd have a point. As-is, they're just whining.
it's not an exploit, it's just buggy hitboxes.
Because they couldn't get near you they are complaining, however..
Anybody who thinks otherwise is wrong. What a bunch of mofo's...
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its worse to call someone a noob than to say....well what can we say on this censored board?
the two worst by products of FPS gaming the word noob and the entier L33t speak language
Consider the intelligence of the average NS player..
Now realize that <b>HALF</b> of all NS players are even more stupid than this.
BlueGhost
Nah, people have said it, they didn't reach you, so it's all good
1/3 - Really stupid
2/3 - Semi stupid
3/3 - smart
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Yes, the marine hitbox/collisionbox/breadbox/whatever is bugged when crouching. I've also seen posts on this forum with evidence that the skulk hitbox/whateverbox is also messed up, among others. It's a goof or a limitation of the game. Flayra will try to fix it, I'm sure.
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Hate to break it to you but leet speak preceded FPS by about a decade. You can thank the pirating community for that one. Granted there are some mutations of words that came from FPS (pwn, teh) but they are nothing more than a propigation of a typo which happened long before FPS.
And as it's been said many times now... that isn't exploiting. Sitting there while they chomp on you for 5-10 minutes, then shooting them would have been, but that was perfectly fair.
Now given, that, yes they should of learned, but they didn't, you should try and keep out of vents becuase of this bug.. IMHO
I've seen this exact same thing myself. Except we didnt have motion tracking. I just kept jumping up and down OUTSIDE the vent (didnt even climb into it).
It's a long vent, you can see Skulks coming from a mile away. But even I got accused of being lame, just because the same people used the vent over and over and over again and actually wondered why I kept nailing them.
This isnt an exploit and there's no way anyone can say that it is. It's just people being utterly stupid.
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"L33t speak language" is a creation of the old BBS systems from 3773 hax0r dayz!:O
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Actually, when the aliens had 3 hives once, I managed to sneak out of the base and get into that vent (my comm was dumb and didn't drop me a tfac or anything to siege the hive). I killed about 5 skulks and I was 100% out of ammo, down to my knife against freshly spawned skulks. A moral for the skulks, persistence pays off.
Am I Exploiting?
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Depends on wether you were using a crosshair or not
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Erm, this would presume that the pirating community had died out. I assure you, it has not. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Although I think a good portion of them are embarrassed by the FPSers mangling their language. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
i really hope you meant playing in general.......
how long has ns been out?
and as far a leet speak go i can see that it was usefull before for the hacker/cracker community
but as far as 14 year old fps gamers go its just silly, later theyll wish that they were fluent in a language they actually got grades on instead of leet
employer: do you know any foreign languages?
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(note im no expert at leet speak so the text above is probably wrong for the most part but i think it will carry my piont across anyhow)
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I was unaware that it was possible to get it 'wrong' ;)
or 'right' for that matter....
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Ah, so now Marines are not allowed to go in vents and kill skulks on the other end? No, he is not exploiting. Sorry. I don't mind Marines in vents because if you hit low, they still get hurt.