Siege Line Of Sight

Archzai · January 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">i have a question</div> When they mean a marine has to have the hive or structure in its LOS... does that mean the marine has to actually be LOOKING directly at the hive or chamber... or as long as a marine is in the area it will seige?
thx

AOBBlack_Bart · January 2003

In my expierence it seems that the marine not only has to be looking at it but also has to be able to see a large section of it...

Bart

Mastodon · January 2003

I've never noticed this. In most games I've played, unless I've totally missed something, the Hive was just sieged through the wall from next door without us ever going in there.

Edcrab · January 2003

This is on about the proposed 1.04+ changes, I believe.

It's been raised before, but it still confuses me. As well as what Archzai said, do the 1.04 players out there know whether or not a comm/marine has to repeatedly sweep/view an alien structure or does knowledge of it's existence mean the siege will fire until the structure is gone?

Archzai · January 2003

also.... ummm... how many seige cannon SHOTS do u get per sweep?

T_RAT · January 2003

yes im also curious about this.
+ is the range for the siege that much different/noticeable in 1.04?
We only just got 1.04 on 1 aussie server thats always full so i have had no time to check this out yet.

Y3ti · January 2003

The range doens't make that much of a difference

and I've found that you have to have the structure completly in sight(or close to it) for the siege to fire.

And you get like 1 shot per sweep.

TipTop · January 2003

... that as they say, is not good!

MMZNastyDwarf · January 2003

Geesh could they make this a little more complicated!!!

So not only do u have to defend your TF, Seige Cannon, Turrets, but now you need to give a personal escort to the one poor soul who has to sit there and look a whatever needs to be targeted!! on top of scan sweeps !! Maybe they could give us poor comms a few more things to micro manage.

My final note:

I wonder if they cut the distance on acid rockets? or the fact that a ball of acid can shoot through a grated fence.................. Hmmm all they did was tweek some splash damage and accuracy.

Jaml · January 2003

The new siege changes are great! It obligates the marines to play on offence more since they need to move their butt into the hive area to siege it.

Scanner sweeps give 2 shots i think but with 3 res/sweep its only an option if you control a large part of the res.

Range changes arent that big of a problem since its only some %

AOBBlack_Bart · January 2003

I've played 1.04 servers.

The scaner sweep give between 0 and 1 shots, (see my thread for why) or a marine has to spot the target for the turret and it still can take a long time for the seige to fire...

The first shot from a seige via pinging could cost you 3 per or maybe even 4 pings. the same applies to each subsequent shot, (You have to make sure the seige does not break LOS or the seige will rotate a full 360 degrees before it will establish a lock.

I've written a long thread on this topic go find it.

Bart

El_Diablos · January 2003

the tweak to the distance a siege can fire is probably because of the bug/cheap area on ns_hera. right now a siege could attack both hives at the same. after the distance change, hopefully the siege wont be able to attack both hives at the same time.

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