Also found on Discord: is this the beginning of the end of our lagging / freezing etc woes?

0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
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EDIT: Discord, not Trello. Derrrp....

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  • jpinardjpinard Join Date: 2016-09-17 Member: 222373Members
    What's a potato PC? I sure hope this is the fixing we need. I've never had an issue with pop-in myself. I understand the need for LOD and the LOD management has always been fine in this game. So I hope they can focus more on performance itself than pop-in.
  • RalijRalij US Join Date: 2016-05-20 Member: 217092Members
    A potato pc is a pc with suboptimal specs for running the game, usually forcing the player to run games on the lowest possible settings and experiencing higher than normal amounts of lag, stuttering, and freezing. I really hope this is the end of pop-in and stuttering. Crossing my fingers!
  • FathomFathom Earth Join Date: 2016-07-01 Member: 219405Members
    That would make for a great Christmess present from UWE.
  • jpinardjpinard Join Date: 2016-09-17 Member: 222373Members
    edited December 2016
    I'm not sure they should even be focusing on lowest spec machines at this point. I upgraded my video card to a NVidia GTX 1080 Extreme and my fps went up all of 1 fps. Going from 5 fps to 6 fps was not the boost I was hoping to experience in the trouble areas.
    I'm thrilled however they've got this listed for major activity. :)

    @0x6A7232 - Can you tell if that's slated for the up and coming patch, or is that just a general WIP?
  • subnauticambriansubnauticambrian U.S. Join Date: 2016-01-19 Member: 211679Members
    As the owner of a potato PC, I would appreciate it very much.
  • HiSaZuLHiSaZuL N.Y. Join Date: 2016-11-11 Member: 223803Members
    Mine is 6? years old... I get 30-40 fps... problem is that it degrades with time. The older the save gets the more pronounced it becomes tho fps never really drops too far down... there is just massive problems with cell loading and save bloat.
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    jpinard wrote: »
    I'm not sure they should even be focusing on lowest spec machines at this point. I upgraded my video card to a NVidia GTX 1080 Extreme and my fps went up all of 1 fps. Going from 5 fps to 6 fps was not the boost I was hoping to experience in the trouble areas.
    I'm thrilled however they've got this listed for major activity. :)

    @0x6A7232 - Can you tell if that's slated for the up and coming patch, or is that just a general WIP?
    As the owner of a potato PC, I would appreciate it very much.

    It will benefit both; if Subnautica can run on potato machines with acceptable quality, then it will execute on monster rigs with extreme prejudice.

    I don't know; someone posted it on Discord without much other information (that I could quickly see).
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    @jpinard Have you got Subnautica installed on an SSD? If not, you might be running into disk I/O bottleneck regardless of your GPU.
  • HiSaZuLHiSaZuL N.Y. Join Date: 2016-11-11 Member: 223803Members
    Speaking of hard drives... make sure you aren't running your HDD through seta 6... go with seta 3. I'd like to say problem is that most games are done like shit *cough* GTA 5 *cough* that one would complain about corruption nonstop and crash until I went to seta 3... but frankly marvels seta 6 drivers are basically shit to begin with, even windows(good versions) deal with massive amount of read/write errors which eventually causes OS do be completely bugged but its windows... so it's designed to break, well made games work better on seta 6 sadly that is probably 1 out of 50. Also make sure you aren't running some half baked anti-virus/firewall/whateverhaveyou some of them devour paging and cpu to nothing and at the end of the day they don't really do anything useful. Have a script blocker and don't let random porn sites run what ever they please.
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    Err.. that's probably a problem with either your SATA controller, your SATA cable, your SATA drivers, or your disk drive itself. I'd start with the SATA cable, is it a SATA 6 class cable, or are you running an older cable designed for slower speeds?
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    I'm running my Samsung 850 EVO at SATA 3 mode (6Gbps)

    See here for an article; SATA 2 is 3.0 Gbps, is that what you meant? And regardless, your cables need to be up to that spec, and your drivers etc need to too. What's your system specs? Run CPU-Z and post them; I'll try to see if there was a BIOS update / driver update resolving your issue (BUT DO CHECK THOSE CABLES!)
  • jpinardjpinard Join Date: 2016-09-17 Member: 222373Members
    edited December 2016
    Yes I have an extremely fast Corsair SSD. Not only for my dedicated Subnautica install but also a dedicated SSD just for Win10 install (I have 5 SSD's in total in my computer plus two 3 TB mechanical drives for everything else).
  • HiSaZuLHiSaZuL N.Y. Join Date: 2016-11-11 Member: 223803Members
    It's not my end problem and as far as marvel drivers go that is a widely known problem(guess I should have mentioned i meant driver family). Has nothing to do with cables... the cheapest junk cable for digital signal will perform just as well as any "super" cable even if its made out of gold... it is a DIGITAL signal. One time some store clerk was trying too hard to make a point I was wrong and there happened to be a guy that was a lot more passionate about bullshit then I am... he made a cable out of scrap in his truck and ran speed test to shut the poor guy up(oh he looked like he wished he stayed home at the end of it all)... now that is dedication. I could never be arsed to go that far.

    Anyway... run older marver seta drivers if you can... they are a lot less wonky.
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members
    edited December 2016
    HiSaZuL wrote: »
    It's not my end problem and as far as marvel drivers go that is a widely known problem(guess I should have mentioned i meant driver family). Has nothing to do with cables... the cheapest junk cable for digital signal will perform just as well as any "super" cable even if its made out of gold... it is a DIGITAL signal. One time some store clerk was trying too hard to make a point I was wrong and there happened to be a guy that was a lot more passionate about bullshit then I am... he made a cable out of scrap in his truck and ran speed test to shut the poor guy up(oh he looked like he wished he stayed home at the end of it all)... now that is dedication. I could never be arsed to go that far.

    Anyway... run older marver seta drivers if you can... they are a lot less wonky.

    So you should say, run 3Gbps if you have marvel drivers.

    As far as cables go, that's true only if they are up to spec (ie not trash cables cobbled together without meeting the IEEE standards for the device), and then only if the spec they are rated for is the full speed you're attempting to throughput. Anything beyond spec is risky when dealing with critical systems, although, if your cable was over-engineered, you can definitely get away with it, but do thorough testing before storing anything you care about on there.

    Your scrap cable might run full speed, but does it have errors in transmission? No? How about a full speed test with the wires packed together like they would be in a normal cable? You'll get signal crosstalk if it's not properly shielded and braided.

    Please don't misunderstand me, I'm in no way advocating paying for 'premium' cables, I'm advocating buying from good cheap sellers, like monoprice for cables, or Newegg / NCIX / Micro Center / Amazon / Tiger Direct for computer parts (or eBay if it's a top rated seller and you read the description carefully).

    If you want evidence, take a PATA-33 or PATA-66 rated IDE cable, and try to run PATA-133 over it. Not happening, you'll corrupt your drive. Or try running USB 3 over a USB 1.1 cable. Or Gigabit Ethernet over a cable rated for 10Mbps (you might actually be able to do Gigabit with some data and speed loss with a shorter 100Mbps ethernet cable, but not the full rated 100ft)


    EDIT: TL;DR You can get away with bending the rules. Sometimes. YMMV, and good quality cheap components can be had, so why risk it? Or at least thoroughly test before running components past spec.
  • HiSaZuLHiSaZuL N.Y. Join Date: 2016-11-11 Member: 223803Members
    @0x6A7232 oh you are right you have to be aware of what the cable is for. If you need a cable for controller that moves a lot then a cheap one will cost you more at the end of the day since it will wear off, things like that you are absolutely right. It was more of a... how to put it if a cable works it works it doesn't magically start working worse. Besides cables for SETA 6gb are labeled kind of hard to miss it, then again there always funny people out there.

    Anyway sorry I confused everyone with my thinking about one thing and typing another.
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