Which Game Should I Get

DY357LX · January 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">NS Forum Users Input Wanted</div> Here's your chance to make a difference in the world.
Here's the reason you get up in the mornings and why you'll
sleep soundly tonight.
Answer this question and all will be good*

Which game should I get from the list below?
Unreal Tournament 2003
Aliens Versus Predator 2
WarCraft III

I've got AVP Gold (very old but very good), scares the hell outta my sister <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>.
I love games like this where you can play as Aliens and get caught up in the atmosphere of the
maps. (Probably why i love Natural Selection soooo much)

I've been playing the UT2K3 demo to death recently and am enjoying the bombing run map.
(Notice the word "MAP" and not "MAPS", getting abit easy so the new game tempts me)

As for Warcraft III.... well it's discounted and is rumoured to be quite addictive (which is good)

I've got sick of Black & White's hassles and SWAT3 gathering dust on my shelf
so i think i might as well trade those in.

All input welcome, please no "OMG Warcraft ownz j00, 4nD AVP sukzorx!!! ". posts.

* Peace of mind is a figure of speech, if you die in your sleep its not my fault.

airyK · January 2003

alright man, i LOVE Wc3 but only with friends, im still waiting to tear onto online for awhile ive done it and its fun, a big user base of course. UT2k3 is a WONDERFUL game, the graphics my god there awesome. ut2k3 has great replay value and a mod value that hasnt really been tapped into really yet. given its a new game so time will only tell. wc3 , ut2k3 deathmatch is pretty bad* but bombing run is great. so pick and choose. btw WC3 is comming out with a new expansion pack the frozen throne or something so i would wait before buying wc3 and wait till frozen thorne comes and the original should be cheap. you can buy wc3 online for like 25 dollars now, but in stores expect to see them for 45-60 dollars. what i would suggest doing is to download the wc3 demo *im pretty sure its out* and playing that to see if you like it. remember its a RTS game but with a little rpg twist in that you have a hero character that can level up and get new special powers that uses up mana. i hope this is helpful to you

DY357LX · January 2003

Is it true that Warcraft 3 has quite a few cheats and exploits that are abused?
As for the demo.... browsing Google for it now.

More replies please!

Thansal · January 2003

yes there are (last I checked)

there is a NoFog Cheat that is prevalent and simple to find

Salty · January 2003

I played the AVP2 demo and its alot like NS. motion tracking, grenade launcher, shotgun, machinegun, sept it has more guns then that. The problem it though is i think the aliens need more differece in classes besides speed looks dmg and armor.

Zergling · January 2003

i haven't played WC3 on battle.net but the singleplayer campaigns were a big letdown, although quite lengthy

Gnatsum · January 2003

Warcraft 3 is fun, its a really neat game, fun playing all the custom games, the normal play mode is fun too, campaigns are alright, just don't touch the orc campaign... I HATE IT...

Ut2003 is a game thats fun for a while, it does get repetitive blowing up people over and over again... yes thats deathmatch, bombing run, as most users have already said, is fun, but nonetheless is fun for only a while. Graphics are really neat and i am looking forward to mods on this game.

AVPII, well im not too sure on this game...i would rather just boot up some natural selection with avp skins <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

DOOManiac · January 2003

if you want ut2003, i'll sell you my copy.

Speed_2_Dave · January 2003

anything but WC3. That game isn't even worth pirating.

DOOManiac · January 2003

I loved war3...

Pyrrhus · January 2003

anyone who says war3 is a bad game is a moron who should be shot and **** on and not in that order
it's an awesome, strategy at it's finest

don't bash it because your too much of a **** to enjoy it. That game was made for online play of course the single player isn't all that. In the end I have probly played way more war3 than NS. However when you compare War3 and AvP2 it's apples to oranges. If you like NS you will like AvP2. War 3 is completely different. AvP2 has awesome single player while war3 has awesome multi. It's up to you

Speed_2_Dave · January 2003

my beef with war3 was the lack of variety. You have 3 main strats, and I think 2 counterstrats (provided you're not the orcs, who get bum-*#$&% if they don't rush early)

As for online-play, if you learn fast, you will learn most every strategy from the first 5 games you play, master them in a week, and get REALLY bored after that. The game is either get killed fast, get destroyed all of a sudden, or slaughter your enemies. The fun that was Warcraft 2 is gone. I just didn't like the new way they did things (especially "heroes") Was a great idea, fundamentally.

[edit] why I learned how to win in 5 games was because of the very excellent "replay" button[/edit]

Align · January 2003

Whichever you choose, save your profiles folder for B&W so you don't have to raise an all new creature when B&W2 comes out.

Dirty_Harry_Potter · January 2003

well here a small description of the games:
differences from AVP1 to AVP2:
better graphics than #1, much more balanced multiplayer balance(at least what i've heard, haven't played #1, but the demo)
you can't destroy lamps as an alien anymore
(dunno if this was in #1 but) you start as a facehugger in the alien campaign.
UT2K3:
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Ut2003 is a game thats fun for a while, it does get repetitive blowing up people over and over again... yes thats deathmatch, bombing run, as most users have already said, is fun, but nonetheless is fun for only a while. Graphics are really neat and i am looking forward to mods on this game.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
as darkbolt says its fun, but it doesn't last for long if you haven't a good connection or some friends who are always ready for LAN play.

WC3:
well its okay, but i don't find it THAT good, and it gets boring, after some time. Maybe it gets more interesting with the upcomming add-on.
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>my beef with war3 was the lack of variety. You have 3 main strats, and I think 2 counterstrats (provided you're not the orcs, who get bum-*#$&% if they don't rush early)

As for online-play, if you learn fast, you will learn most every strategy from the first 5 games you play, master them in a week, and get REALLY bored after that. The game is either get killed fast, get destroyed all of a sudden, or slaughter your enemies. The fun that was Warcraft 2 is gone. I just didn't like the new way they did things (especially "heroes") Was a great idea, fundamentally.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>i always play custom games, when playing online, theres some pretty good maps out there twisting the gameplay.

DY357LX · January 2003

Whoa cool. I love it when I wake up and there's loadsa replies for me to read <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

What i love about UT2K3 is the characters body detail. For example, when you kill
someone and they fall off a ledge or hit a wall, you actually SEE the joints in their
bodies bend and crumple.
On the bombing run demo last night I was simply jumping through the bomb target
and watching my character fall to his death. Hitting several beams as he did so. It
looked amazing. But you can't buy a game JUST for character animations can you.

So it looks like i'll be picking up AVP2 and/or Warcraft 3. Never know I might
get lucky and get both.

Tenebrae · January 2003

Ut2003 is a really good game, but it is slower paced than it's predecessor.
There is a lot more emphasis on team work (Double Domination and Bombing Run in particular are near impossible to win solo)
But as has been said before it gets repetitive if you don't play against real people.........

Injury · January 2003

I recommend Ut2k3. C&C Generals and MOO3.. you should get as well!

[Edit]Britney's Dance Beat too!

DY357LX · January 2003

OK i'm back from town. Did you lot miss me? Course you did, silly question <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

I got ::drum roll:: Aliens Versus Predator 2 (i love the whole concept of games
like this far too much to not try it)
annnnnnnnnd WarCraft 3. (too much praise around for me not to give it
a whirl.

If anyone feels like showing me the rops on either, simply PM/ICQ/MSN and
i'll be glad to show you what "beginners luck" really is <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Thanks for all the input, wuv you all ::hugs all those who replied:: <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Quick edit, just HAD to say.... Tenebrae NICE sig pic mate! Very cool

Tediak · January 2003

AvP 2 is probably only 15 bucks now, and it's a damn good game. Multiplayer in AvP2 is fun, try the MP demo to see if you like it.
UT2003 buy for the potential mods, not the game itself, which is really just UT with one very good addition, Bombing Run.
Warcraft 3 is mediocre.

DOOManiac · January 2003

Good choice there. If you still want UT2003 i'll still sell it to you :P

FlatlineUTD · January 2003

Being an RTS player, my vote goes for War3.

Great game, and I would still be playing it if I didn't like NS more.

MedHead · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ Jan 26 2003, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is it true that Warcraft 3 has quite a few cheats and exploits that are abused?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Isn't that true of all Blizzard games?

FlatlineUTD · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jan 27 2003, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ Jan 26 2003, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Is it true that Warcraft 3 has quite a few cheats and exploits that are abused? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Isn't that true of all Blizzard games?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Isn't that true of ANY game?

Speed_2_Dave · January 2003

huh. Personally I enjoyed SC because it took longer, or was more fun (personally) to get your butt kicked by a zergling rush (the frantic attempt at building enough marines to cover your stupid ***.) In WC3, it's kill or be killed, no redemption, no chance of a comeback, unless you were planning the comeback assault from the beginning. In which case you're using a "special teams" strat, which I tend not to include when I learn the fundamentals of a game. I use them, sure, but I don't hone my skills on them. The graphics were great, but otherwise I guess I'm kinda tired of the genre.

Sancho · January 2003

UT2k3 is exactly like UT, except with better graphics. The only reason I would get that is for "The Opera".

Grendel · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pyrrhus @ Jan 27 2003, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> anyone who says war3 is a bad game is a moron who should be shot and **** on and not in that order
it's an awesome, strategy at it's finest

 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Whoa.

People ARE entitled to have their opinions.

Personally, I agree with a certain website that stated "WC3 is proof that you CAN polish a turd".

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

FlatlineUTD · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Jan 28 2003, 03:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pyrrhus @ Jan 27 2003, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> anyone who says war3 is a bad game is a moron who should be shot and **** on and not in that order
it's an awesome, strategy at it's finest

</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Whoa.

People ARE entitled to have their opinions.

Personally, I agree with a certain website that stated "WC3 is proof that you CAN polish a turd".

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
LOL!

I like Blizzard and all, but I also like games that have SOME type of innovation. I liked Battle Realms, but no one else did because it didn't follow the "Blizzard-prescribed-RTS-formula."

Hell, War3 added the "new idea" of unit upkeep the day after Battle Realms was released, which had been using the upkeep idea for months.

Dirty_Harry_Potter · January 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> like Blizzard and all, but I also like games that have SOME type of innovation. I liked Battle Realms, but no one else did because it didn't follow the "Blizzard-prescribed-RTS-formula."</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>also likes it, but unlike you i have managed to get others to play it over LAN, but i think it got messed up after battlepack 3.

Which Game Should I Get

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