Coronas In Space Server

Proclaimed_MessiahProclaimed_Messiah Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12662Members
The last couple times ive played on this server the marine team i was on was using a resource hack and would start the game with 70+ resources, telling everyone my team is resource hacking and then leaving cause i cant stand cheating (i was old school cs and i hate hacks with a passion, probalby cause they ruined cs for me). So I just figured id let everyone know about the crap going on with that server so they can avoid it / do something about it. Just goes to show you how abunch of lame people can kill a good server.
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  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    Umm... That's the normal starting resources... Stop complaining.
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    Man I feel your pain, I have been on alot of alien teams that used the res exploit and got infinite res.

    what was funny is that some dood on our team said "whats the point? you might as well get a game that says YOU WIN everytime you start it up" rofl!

    Oh and about CS, it is garbage it was garbage when it was first made and it will always be GARBAGE man I hate that game with a passion, and hope that some how some way it is taken off the internet. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • lochnesslochness Join Date: 2002-12-13 Member: 10753Members
    i play on that server all the time, its one of my absolute favorites. I know all the admins well, and i play marines alot. NEVER have I seen any resource hack being used/done. In case you didn't know, marines usually start with about 100 resources at the start of the match, so I don't really understand your problem....
  • Proclaimed_MessiahProclaimed_Messiah Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12662Members
    Ok so im obviously wrong about that game at the start, I can admit it when im wrong (apologies) But ive been in games where its been pretty obvious to probably when admins arnt on. Hence the line in my first post, im just telling people so they can avoid / do something about it.
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    I don't think any "resource hacks" exist for either side at this point. Even adminmod scripts couldn't change this. Coronas in Space is an amazing (and seemingly well-admined) server, and I highly doubt there were rampant abuses there.
  • NarfNarf Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2609Members
    Coronas is chaotic but still a pretty good server. Best thing is that it's running the 1.04 beta.
  • s_viper3s_viper3 Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12363Members
    Oh yes, definately a working reshack on the market for 1.04# Seen it myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FooshieFooshie Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2820Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Jan 25 2003, 10:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Jan 25 2003, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't think any "resource hacks" exist for either side at this point. Even adminmod scripts couldn't change this. Coronas in Space is an amazing (and seemingly well-admined) server, and I highly doubt there were rampant abuses there.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actualy, on the TAU clan server aliens start with 20 res.
  • andyamlandyaml Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8830Members
    I would think that most of the "hacks" are overflow from the previous game. it's happened to me a few times before, basically, everyone's res shoots up to 33, gorges evolve, get 100, build both hives, game ends, before the marines even take 2 nodes.
  • GoldenNuggetGoldenNugget Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12732Members
    I've seen a hack on coronas where a marine would camp near a hive and kill anybody who came out because his hack allowed about 4 lmg bullets to kill a skulk. It became annoying and obvious that he was using a hack.
  • Grimm_SpectorGrimm_Spector Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3309Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--GoldenNugget+Jan 28 2003, 03:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GoldenNugget @ Jan 28 2003, 03:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen a hack on coronas where a marine would camp near a hive and kill anybody who came out because his hack allowed about 4 lmg bullets to kill a skulk. It became annoying and obvious that he was using a hack. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe you should post this in bug report so they'll look into it, you never know, there may be some thing that when a skulk first spawns, before you take control, they have less hits than usual?

    Or maybe he had full damage upgrades?
  • TazolTazol Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GoldenNugget+Jan 27 2003, 07:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GoldenNugget @ Jan 27 2003, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen a hack on coronas where a marine would camp near a hive and kill anybody who came out because his hack allowed about 4 lmg bullets to kill a skulk. It became annoying and obvious that he was using a hack. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think I've ever seen anything like that out of all my time on CiS. Since the LMG rather fast, it'll sound like there's less shots than there actually is, since they overlap each other, or maybe he was using a pistol.. or maybe there was more marines, but some were hiding. You never know. ;)
  • VigilanteVigilante Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1828Members, Constellation
    The only problem with the Coronas server is that it can't even come close to handling a full player load. 300 pings across the board when it fills up.
  • x-treme_x-tasyx-treme_x-tasy Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11122Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Tazol+Jan 27 2003, 10:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tazol @ Jan 27 2003, 10:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--GoldenNugget+Jan 27 2003, 07:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GoldenNugget @ Jan 27 2003, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen a hack on coronas where a marine would camp near a hive and kill anybody who came out because his hack allowed about 4 lmg bullets to kill a skulk.  It became annoying and obvious that he was using a hack. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think I've ever seen anything like that out of all my time on CiS. Since the LMG rather fast, it'll sound like there's less shots than there actually is, since they overlap each other, or maybe he was using a pistol.. or maybe there was more marines, but some were hiding. You never know. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Damn right you never know. I know that as a regular player at the CiS server that there are NO resource hacks at all. The skulks there are usually uncarapaced when they come out of the hives (should be for all servers? no? ) and the server does lag at times and then it just shows that the bullet count that killed you is low ex. 4. You do see me killing millions of skulks (millions is an exageration, thousands is more like it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ) when they come out of the hive if you frequent that server. Even more skulks when I get a shotty, mauahaha!!! Anyway, CS is trying to get refined by using Steam 2 right now and it's doing a damn good job. All the beta servers are hack free. Good job Steam and 1.6.
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Resource hacks aren't possible. There are resource exploits (such as with aliens), and you can get resources with the press of a button when cheats are on, but there's no resource hack.

    I mean, have you ever heard of a money hack for CS?
  • NecromanZerNecromanZer Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3407Members
    yeah, server side options let the admins change how much money people get.........

    money hacking for CS is pointless when you can use a glock and HS someone 200m away with OGC, why bother buying a better gun?

    yet for NS you NEED resources....



    oh. and don't ever compare NS to CS again, you'll get flamed and angry hordes of pitchfork and torch weilding villagers will chase you from your house.
  • ShadowXORShadowXOR Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10106Members
    edited January 2003
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  • TerrTerr Arthritic Skulk Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7486Members
    Resource hacks are ever so possible... if you control the server. If nothing else, it's just a brute-force matter of modifying memory values. As for your this 70+ resource starting... isn't that normal? Marine team starts with 100 res in the pool last I know. 1.04 (final, at least) is pretty good so far.
  • TazolTazol Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vigilante+Jan 27 2003, 08:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vigilante @ Jan 27 2003, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only problem with the Coronas server is that it can't even come close to handling a full player load. 300 pings across the board when it fills up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perhaps you didn't know, but I'll inform you anyway, even if you did know. Tiberion is able to host much.. MUCH larger servers, except Natural Selection uses a lot of resources.. and the maps are very much more detailed.. basically, the problem is the Natural Selection's code, although it has improved over the last few patches, and you've seen how he's upped the server limit. Before he kept it at 20, then tried 30, and it kept crashing at the end of the map. Changed it to 26.. same thing.. changed it to 24.. same thing.. then finally 22 and it didn't crash. He tried 23, and it didn't crash.. so, for some reason, when the server would get 24 players.. crash after mapchange. Now, it's up to 28, with two or four reserved slots. He's still aiming for 32, but only when NS doesn't eat the resources alive before even finishing the round. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    I seem to have a love-hate relationship with CiS. On one hand its a real good place but then on the other hand sometimes they have some real lamers on. Just the other day I played the 4 best NS games I have ever had on that server, but today I was vote-kicked off for bilding sens for the second upgrade instead of movement. Until the server gets some consistency in the quality of its players Im gonna play elsewhere. I have never been kicked before for any reason in any game and to be kicked for such a lame reason as bilding sens instead of movement is just <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>L A M E. </span></b>
  • Error404Error404 Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9353Members
    I've played on that server a few times, don't play so often there now because my ping sucks there, but I've never had any problems.

    BTW, CS doesn't suck, do you like it when they say NS sucks in their forums? Mod patriotism is stupid, you should always judge a game by its merits and not on what other people say.
  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Members, Constellation
    sod the res hacking - the server been so **** lately they updated the player limit to 26 + 2 resevered = garanteed lag from start of game.

    I couldn't have a 1 on 1 with a marine as alien without lagging, and i don't lag on a 600k conn.

    anyhow they put it down to 24 + 2 reserved which is better....BUT.....22 + 2 reserved is what the server can max handle.

    you try posting on thier server forum, you lucky if you get a responce or anyone reads it in 2 wks.

    lol

    zippy
  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Teufel Eldritch+Jan 28 2003, 12:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teufel Eldritch @ Jan 28 2003, 12:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I seem to have a love-hate relationship with CiS. On one hand its a real good place but then on the other hand sometimes they have some real lamers on. Just the other day I played the 4 best NS games I have ever had on that server, but today I was vote-kicked off for bilding sens for the second upgrade instead of movement. Until the server gets some consistency in the quality of its players Im gonna play elsewhere. I have never been kicked before for any reason in any game and to be kicked for such a lame reason as bilding sens instead of movement is just <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>L A M E. </span></b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    everyone knows it's a fact that sens are no good at that stage of the game because they will have motion tracking. If you bother to appoligise and say it wont happen again, then ppl would be a little more patient with you, it is a noob act to do sensory at that stage in the game.

    zippy
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--zippy+Jan 28 2003, 08:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zippy @ Jan 28 2003, 08:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> everyone knows it's a fact that sens are no good at that stage of the game because they will have motion tracking. If you bother to appoligise and say it wont happen again, then ppl would be a little more patient with you, it is a noob act to do sensory at that stage in the game.

    zippy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmmmm same name as the person who started the vote kick on me. Wouldnt happen to be the same person would it?

    Everybody knows its a fact uh? I thinkif you do a search on this forum you will find a great amny ppl who disagree with your "facts." Its not a matter of what you think is newb behavior or me apologizing(I have NOTHING to apologize for as I did NOTHING wrong).* Its a matter of some ppl in that server being jerkwads just because someone did something different than D/M/S. As far as I know CiS does not have D/M/S rule in thier MOTD. Its also about player choice and game variety. Myself? I prefer D/M/S and will bild it more often than not but when I dont bild D/M/S I dont need some 14 year old kids yelling in my ear and vote kicking me just because I bilt something in someway they do not approve of. What if I bilt a wol in a spot that you dont approve of? Then what? Do you kick me then too because I bilt a wol on the left corner instead of the right?

    [sarcasm]
    *** ATTENTION NEW RULE TO BE OBEYED ON ALL SERVERS!!!! D/M/S NOT TO BE DEVIATED FROM FOR ANY REASON!!! FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT IN KICK FROM GAME!!!! ***
    [/sarcasm]








    *You can take that apology and shove it up your......
  • JamlJaml Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9054Members
    @ Teufel Eldritch:

    Since you were kicked of the server most people agreed on the fact that sensory is inferior to movement/defense.Personally i would burn every gorge in my backyard alive that builds a sensory before the third hive if it were possible. I play games to have fun AND to win. And if some noob builds sensory i dont get carpace and adren for my lerk/fade and then im very angry resulting in a kick. So im totally against your selfish behavior to just build a sens without asking your teammates first since you probably cost them the win and the fun they have with the game. So you should apologize to your teammates because you DID something wrong. Yeah D/M/S isnt in the MOTD but it is a unwritten law in the ns gaming community. If you want to change ask first.(Probably they will not allow it)

    D/M/S is the most effective combination hands down. Everyone is used to it and it usually brings victory on pubs while other combos don´t.
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Getting kicked off a server is not representative of justice. Ive seen vote-kicks pass just because someone got killed by a superior player 2) selfish behavior? well you dont know the full story do you? You see we had 3 hives and I was going to bild the Sens but in the process of me getting to the place I was going to bild said Sens #2 hive was killed. I bilt the Sen thinking we had 3 hives and didnt notice until just after I bilt the sens. Besides how would it be selfish? Would you say I was selfish if I had instead bilt a MC? a DC? No.

    What it all boils down to is some little kids couldnt handle the fact I bilt a Sens and instead of dealing and adapting they decided to be jerkwads. I wasnt asked why I bilt a Sens or anything. All I recieved was the "oMGRZORZ!! u BUILDED SNES!!!11 yuo = n00b fagoT" and blah blah blah. Instead of saying to themselves "Just why in the hell did the dimwit bild Sens?" or asking me out loud "Yo man why in the f*ck did u bild sens first?" All I get instead is beratements insults and a kick. If just one person wouldve asked me why I wouldve told them, but not one person asked me let alone asked me nicely. From the time I bilt the sens to the time I was kicked was less than 30 sec. No questions on why, just flaming then kick.


    As for D/M/S.....this isnt a thread for that discussion. This is a thread on the CiS server. If you wish to discuss, debate, argue, flame on the D/M/S topic Im sure you find a thread specifically made for that. There are many, many, many, many Chamber Order type threads on the forum.
  • zippyzippy Forum Police. Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11956Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Teufel Eldritch+Jan 28 2003, 06:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teufel Eldritch @ Jan 28 2003, 06:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--zippy+Jan 28 2003, 08:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zippy @ Jan 28 2003, 08:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> everyone knows it's a fact that sens are no good at that stage of the game because they will have motion tracking. If you bother to appoligise and say it wont happen again, then ppl would be a little more patient with you, it is a noob act to do sensory at that stage in the game.

    zippy <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmmmm same name as the person who started the vote kick on me. Wouldnt happen to be the same person would it?

    Everybody knows its a fact uh? I thinkif you do a search on this forum you will find a great amny ppl who disagree with your "facts." Its not a matter of what you think is newb behavior or me apologizing(I have NOTHING to apologize for as I did NOTHING wrong).* Its a matter of some ppl in that server being jerkwads just because someone did something different than D/M/S. As far as I know CiS does not have D/M/S rule in thier MOTD. Its also about player choice and game variety. Myself? I prefer D/M/S and will bild it more often than not but when I dont bild D/M/S I dont need some 14 year old kids yelling in my ear and vote kicking me just because I bilt something in someway they do not approve of. What if I bilt a wol in a spot that you dont approve of? Then what? Do you kick me then too because I bilt a wol on the left corner instead of the right?

    [sarcasm]
    *** ATTENTION NEW RULE TO BE OBEYED ON ALL SERVERS!!!! D/M/S NOT TO BE DEVIATED FROM FOR ANY REASON!!! FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT IN KICK FROM GAME!!!! ***
    [/sarcasm]








    *You can take that apology and shove it up your...... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i dunno - if stop smurf for 1 second we might recongnise you, it was simple - everyone hated that you went sens, i just did the vote, it's diplomatic, if i did vote and only voteed yes you wouldn't have got kick.

    does that make sense boy?

    zippy
  • JamlJaml Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9054Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Teufel Eldritch+Jan 28 2003, 07:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teufel Eldritch @ Jan 28 2003, 07:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I seem to have a love-hate relationship with CiS. On one hand its a real good place but then on the other hand sometimes they have some real lamers on. Just the other day I played the 4 best NS games I have ever had on that server, but today I was vote-kicked off for bilding sens for the second upgrade instead of movement. Until the server gets some consistency in the quality of its players Im gonna play elsewhere. I have never been kicked before for any reason in any game and to be kicked for such a lame reason as bilding sens instead of movement is just <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>L A M E. </span></b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1.) You said you build sens for second. You never said you had 3 hives and one got nuked so dont blame me for not knowing facts i can´t know.

    2.)The minority has to adapt to the majority so its you that must adapt to D/M/S not the other way around. Or at least ask the players if you can change the build order. So dont be surprised if you get kicked if you don´t ask for the permission to build sens before 3. hive.

    3.) Dont want to argue about build orders just pointing out what the standard is and what people expect from a gorge to build if not decided otherwise by the players. Its the same for the comm. If he builds 5 ip right at the start he will get kicked because hes not doing what hes supposed to do. (Even if his strategy is good he at least has to tell the marines why he wants to start that way to avoid ejection. And have good reasons <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    Don´t want to start a flame war but if a gorge wants to change a build order he MUST talk to the team first because most people need a certain order to be efficient players cause they learned it that way and only win that way.
  • DraxoDraxo Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9653Members
    edited January 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--GoldenNugget+Jan 27 2003, 10:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GoldenNugget @ Jan 27 2003, 10:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen a hack on coronas where a marine would camp near a hive and kill anybody who came out because his hack allowed about 4 lmg bullets to kill a skulk.  It became annoying and obvious that he was using a hack. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    this is known about, a bug not a hack, take a look here

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=21239&hl=' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...f=1&t=21239&hl=</a>
  • DraxoDraxo Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9653Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Teufel Eldritch+Jan 28 2003, 07:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teufel Eldritch @ Jan 28 2003, 07:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I seem to have a love-hate relationship with CiS. On one hand its a real good place but then on the other hand sometimes they have some real lamers on. Just the other day I played the 4 best NS games I have ever had on that server, but today I was vote-kicked off for bilding sens for the second upgrade instead of movement. Until the server gets some consistency in the quality of its players Im gonna play elsewhere. I have never been kicked before for any reason in any game and to be kicked for such a lame reason as bilding sens instead of movement is just <b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>L A M E. </span></b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    theres a good reason that **** everyone off. Today i played a game where the second hive, the gorge went Sensory. The Fades had a helluva hard time taking the marine base then, because no Movement = no adrenaline = energy comes back WAY too slowly.
    So acid rocket was denied the speed of attack it could have had.
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