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Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12898Members
Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12898Members
<div class="IPBDescription">NSAdmin</div> I tried this mod a day or two ago... its great. Anyone know where i can get it? I'd like to run that on my server.
Also,
i tried installing Cheating Death on my server (<span style='color:white'><b>Omitted</span></b>) but i dont think its working... any help would be appreciated
My server is running on Windows .NET Beta RC2. It had 1gb of ram, but one stick is bad so for now it has 512 until i get a new one. Broadband connection, so i limited 8 players. Is this too high/low ?
Right now the server is ONLY running HLDS.EXE... I dont have any of windows' server options on.
Also,
i tried installing Cheating Death on my server (<span style='color:white'><b>Omitted</span></b>) but i dont think its working... any help would be appreciated
My server is running on Windows .NET Beta RC2. It had 1gb of ram, but one stick is bad so for now it has 512 until i get a new one. Broadband connection, so i limited 8 players. Is this too high/low ?
Right now the server is ONLY running HLDS.EXE... I dont have any of windows' server options on.
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Its not released.
Its not released. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I should play on your server. All this talk about it NSadmin. What does it do exactly?
Its hard to get on these three servers...
Its hard to get on these three servers... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
nope. He's keeping it exclusive
Can you imagine what would happen then?? We code mods for OUR OWN server, and people jump out of tall buildings; if we release it, just think of the crap we would get for it.
I thank you for your kind words.. it's very nice of you to do so. We have 2 servers online for 44 people to play, drop by; and enjoy our creations. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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That's poor.
The only thing I can say ....
<span style='color:red'> Open your heart,
open your mind,
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'> Open your source!</span></span>
PS: Hey ... your name isn't Bill gates, is it?
The reason why i wont release it is for a very simple reason indeed:
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=11986&st=0' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=1&t=11986&st=0</a>
I got 10 pages of flame, for running it on my own server.
if i release it, ill get 10 pages of flame per server. And that will flood the NS forums and that == bad, so i wont release it.
Also, another reason is there are lamers out there that will rip the mod, rename it, and claim that they made it. (Which has happend to me with my nuke, i let someone use the code, then someone ripped his mod and the moron who ripped it claimed made the nuke himself and was showing off with it.)
Its fine that you dont release your source or even binaries, thats your choice.
But if its just because of scrutiny, thats pretty freaking dumb.
Please dont start with the "poor me! some people hate what i do".
If someone does complain just IGNORE THEM.
Everyone on the planet has a differing opinion, get used to it.
-bb
I was hesitant to release my psychostats theme for 2 reasons.
1) getting ripped off. (its not hard to do)
2) getting flamed for it
I don't tolerate ppl flaming my server....or my work......if you don't like something...keep it to your bloody self (as spyder monkey always mods posts)
Any script that uses any other GPL script has to follow their rules. Just as long as everyone that is creating any metamod plugins follows them, then its up to them what they do with it.
<a href='http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins' target='_blank'>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins</a>
I prefer to see mods released to the server ops, and let the server ops decide if they want them or not. If a few players don't like them, they can play somewhere else.
Any script that uses any other GPL script has to follow their rules. Just as long as everyone that is creating any metamod plugins follows them, then its up to them what they do with it.
<a href='http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins' target='_blank'>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins</a>
I prefer to see mods released to the server ops, and let the server ops decide if they want them or not. If a few players don't like them, they can play somewhere else. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
thank you for telling me what i already knew.
What i'm saying is its HIS hard work. He doesn't have to release it if he doesn't want to. And i don't blame him for NOT wanting to release it for the reasons i posted.
Duh, scripting is different from Theme making, but it still carries the creaters Name along with it regardless if its Theme, script, mod, etc.
edit: yes GPL requires him to release his mod, but i believe his NSAdmin falls under a borderline case as it uses external functions as well.
(from: <a href='http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins)' target='_blank'>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#G...#GPLAndPlugins)</a>
This looks like it's saying that when you RELEASE the plugin, it must be GPL. Seeing as Voogru has not released said plugin, he should not have to release it and/or the source due to MetaMod being GPL...
Now, in the event that he ends up releasing it to the public, I think to be legal it must be GPL'ed.
Edit: Beat to it....
if i release it, ill get 10 pages of flame per server. And that will flood the NS forums and that == bad, so i wont release it.
Also, another reason is there are lamers out there that will rip the mod, rename it, and claim that they made it. (Which has happend to me with my nuke, i let someone use the code, then someone ripped his mod and the moron who ripped it claimed made the nuke himself and was showing off with it.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So basically,
you dont want to be yelled at by faceless people on the internet you will never see, and you dont want someone else to take credit.
I can understand why you wouldnt want someone to get credit, but its not like ur getting paid for it anyway,
so it honestly doesnt matter.
its like you HAVE to feel superior to everyone becasue of your coding ability?
Ever play Tribes? Ever Hear of shifter mod? Emo1313 (dude that created it) opened the source, and a lot of cool additions got added to it by 3rd parties... he ended up adding some of those to his offical source.
I cant ever get into any of these 3 servers, becasue when i play, i play with 2 friends. we cant all get in at once, so we dont play. We stick to the regular servers. I have tried the NSADmin servers, and they are incredible, and i love the mod, however i cant stand the fact that there are only 3 servers.
He worked on it a lot of hours...
time=money
Instead of getting complaints about his code from thousands of people, he can work on it himself, supported by his community and beta testers.
It's puerilely to prevent ppl on adding features to your plugin, just because you dare some1 to flame your bboard.
And even if some1 "steals" your code ... why don't you just give a ****!?
I think your intention to create that mod was a cool NS server, wasn't it? (Or was it honor!? ... I don't think so.)
A cool NS server ... thats what you have allready. And it could be even better, cause the more ppl working on the plugin, the more features it will have. And all in all I think there're more ppl which would like to help you advancing that plugin, then rather stealing it.
Think about it.
PS: As much as I know the GPL says: If you write code and use only 1 libary that is writen under the GPL you have to open your source to everybody.
I wish people would read more, it does say something to that effect, but the rules ONLY apply if he releases the mod to the public, if he keeps it private he's not required to do a damn thing with any of it.
Since his servers are held privatly, its not a public release.
And the whole thing about voogru hiding/running from flames.. He just doesn't wanna deal with the children that wanna flame flame flame him cause he won't give out his stuff and that wanna flame him about how crappy his mod is.
IMOP... I think everyone should be happy that he's even giving everyone some of his plug-ins. Especially after all the threads I have read with people flaming him non-stop about his sweet mod.
And no he's not trying to feel superior to everyone cause of his good coding skills. He just want's to keep the mods that he worked the longest on and the best for his servers only. It's what makes his servers so diffrent from others. He doesn't want tons of other people with his mod on their servers, plus we all know it wouldn't be fair to the people that like to play the original NS...
No. You're not distributing the software, you're providing a service.
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Do what I do ... ignore the flames. You can't please everyone. There will always be someone that flames you no matter how good your work is. It's just a shame that an allegedly good mod can't be shared and enjoyed on more than a couple servers because of fear of flames from nameless, faceless llamas on the internet.
I just hope that Voogru's real reason for not releasing code is because he doesn't want it stolen and modified without consent or credit. I haven't talked to Voogru so I dunno. Regardless of his reasons, it's his choice.
If NSAdmin is as good as it sounds, someone else will eventually take the time to make a similar mod and release it, I hope.