1 Lerk Vs 1 Marine Head-on....

StormLiong · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">who will win?</div> I had an encounter once where i was a lerk face-to-face. I had zero upgrades and i would automatically assume the lerker had carapace.

What happened was that I started shooting my LMG head on to him and he started spiking me head on. I was thinking since lerks were weak I would eventually win. The next thing I knew, I was spiked to death first.

Is this suppose to happen? Had I assumed wrong?

Paq · February 2003

Lerks are very deadly, when used properly. It is pretty small and hard to hit while it is flying. I have killed several marines when i fly around them and keep biting or shooting spikes (if i have adrealine).

Lerks aren't wery good as one hive alien, but when the next hive comes and i get umbra and adrealine, then marines should run <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Geronimo · February 2003

If you can aim, a lerk in the open will die. But if it flies around, using umbra or hide in vents...you gotta watch out...

Carpace dont save the lerk that much, its just very good when flying around. But if they can fly around biting or spiking you, then they have adrenaline and thats sond hive, you should have at least lvl 1 armour and weapons then.

If they hide in vetns you can empty a clip in them when you spot them, thus killing them even with carpace. The hard part is to spot them. Umbra is hard. If you end upp right in it, either run for your life or try and pull out the knfe =). But as I said, if they have two hives, you should have equipment to

ogz · February 2003

depends how many shots you actually hit him vs how many spikes he hits you first

consider that a lerk has more manueverbility(sp?) and
lmg has random spread
(pistol doesn't but u need 12 lv0 pistol shots to kill a cara lerk <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Archzai · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ Feb 1 2003, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I had an encounter once where i was a lerk face-to-face. I had zero upgrades and i would automatically assume the lerker had carapace.

What happened was that I started shooting my LMG head on to him and he started spiking me head on. I was thinking since lerks were weak I would eventually win. The next thing I knew, I was spiked to death first.

Is this suppose to happen? Had I assumed wrong?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
aint that hard.. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> spray and pray wif ur lmg then get ur pistol out and spam those bullets in that direction.. most likely they will hit and the lerk dies..

its only a pain in the **** when they start to umbra themselves then spam spikes

DoADrunkMonkey · February 2003

yeah, don`t underestimate a lerk they can be very deadly.
their bite equeals that of skulks but these buggers can fly and very fast if i may mention, and with un-bra`s i like to green cloud and can still manage to sly around spiking the people in it.
OUCH! its very effective, i love to see spike kills <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

i actually got the hang of this bugger, so watch out marine dude. (even though marines can kill aliens every time if they got organsided along with good comm)

FlatlineUTD · February 2003

Lerks are tough, but head-on, I've always had the best luck with shotguns.

Inexorable · February 2003

Yes, I think you did assume wrong. I'm pretty sure the damage on the Spike is something like 16, and it fires almost as fast as the LMG. It's also much more accurate at range.

So basically, if you and the Lerk sit at long range at fire at eachother, it's gonna take some luck to win. If the Lerk has <i>any</i> clue how to fly and fire at the same time, you're toast. Don't worry much though, it's very difficult to fly as a Skulk while keeping a bead on your target and not running out of energy.

ZoKHiZ · February 2003

assuming that both players are above average skill and marine wears lmg and pistol

1 hive lerk vs marine... marine wins whit few accurate shots from pistol
2 hive lerk vs marine... if lerk stays behind corner in umbra, marine loses
3 hive lerk vs marine... if lerk doesent won this match, alien player that controls lerk sucks...there is no way that 3 hive lerjk can lose to single marine..or 2

Paq · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZoKHiZ @ Feb 2 2003, 04:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 1 hive lerk vs marine... marine wins whit few accurate shots from pistol
2 hive lerk vs marine... if lerk stays behind corner in umbra, marine loses
3 hive lerk vs marine... if lerk doesent won this match, alien player that controls lerk sucks...there is no way that 3 hive lerjk can lose to single marine..or 2  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
3 hive lerk is as "easy" to kill as 1 hive lerk is with carapace. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>
Spore cloud doesn't save you if marine gets close

DoADrunkMonkey · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Lerks spike damage is now 18 in 1.04 and the bite does 50 damage while the skulk bite does 70. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
true aboot da spikes it has been made better, however the bite damage is not correct. it has varied from the manual and lerks bite with the same damage as skulks, 75.

don`t belive me? go see for yourself, its true i tell ya! TRUUUEE!!
this stuff`s great <a href='http://www.geocities.com/kitsune/ns-stats.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.geocities.com/kitsune/ns-stats.htm</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> lerk rules, death on wings and swoops down... me practice to bite heads while flying by <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Two_Eyed_Human · February 2003

Lerks spike damage is now 18 in 1.04 and the bite does 50 damage while the skulk bite does 70.

Typhon · February 2003

It all depends on the situation. Was this battle started when you walked around a corner in a hallway? Or did you notice eachother in a nice big open room?

Hallway i'd say marine has the advantage, as the lerk will be unable to maneuver well, so its easy to hit him.

Open space i'd expect the lerk to win as he can use his sniper-spikes to hit you from a safe distance while having lots of open space to fly in.

Nicator · February 2003

A lerk that understands that bite is it's primary weapon is far, far better than a single marine.

Zerglin · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ Feb 1 2003, 09:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I had an encounter once where i was a lerk face-to-face. I had zero upgrades and i would automatically assume the lerker had carapace.

What happened was that I started shooting my LMG head on to him and he started spiking me head on. I was thinking since lerks were weak I would eventually win. The next thing I knew, I was spiked to death first.

Is this suppose to happen? Had I assumed wrong?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Haha, I've annhilated entire teams with just 1-hive lerk. Don't be <i>too</i> surprised. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Carapaced lerk is very good. It takes much more to kill a lerk with carapace. I have no idea about redemption though. Funny, I never tried it. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

This one guy got real mad at me once for taking out the team and winning the game. So next game we switched spots and he did the same thing as I did. Nice for a first try. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

ZoKHiZ · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>3 hive lerk is as "easy" to kill as 1 hive lerk is with carapace.
Spore cloud doesn't save you if marine gets close </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

U do realize that lerks can fly high speed away from em. and then again spore and finish em to dead

V_MAN · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Paq @ Feb 2 2003, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Lerks are very deadly, when used properly. It is pretty small and hard to hit while it is flying. I have killed several marines when i fly around them and keep biting or shooting spikes (if i have adrealine).

Lerks aren't wery good as one hive alien, but when the next hive comes and i get umbra and adrealine, then marines should run <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Your fancy yellow umbra wouldn't do jack against my trusty knife/welder/GL <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I shot a lerk out the sky once with a lucky shot from my nade launcher, fired it over him as he flew away and he went smack into it. GL is the solution to lerks and their umbra.

Kadreallost · February 2003

Shotgun+flying lerk = duck hunting =P

Paq · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZoKHiZ @ Feb 3 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> U do realize that lerks can fly high speed away from em. and then again spore and finish em to dead  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yes i do realize that, but when ZoKHiZ said that 1 hive lerk can be taken out by few pistol shots, i ment that 3 hive lerk can be taken out few pistol shots too.... It doesn't have any more health/armor than 1 hive lerk with cara <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

ZoKHiZ · February 2003

Yeah but it has the umbra..and it is very hard to shoot when u are in spore an trying to go of it damage radius, and in ubra u cant win lerk..

1 Lerk Vs 1 Marine Head-on....

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