Server Connections?

ambush · February 2003

I was just wounder what connection you guys use for your servers, and how you go about getting access to these high speed connections. Only people that own their server plz reply, and post specs too.

f3Rl3SS · February 2003

Our server is on a 100MBit.
ISP - Serverhousing (we got our own hardware and rent a space in a rack with a broadband INet connection) in Frankfurt, Germany.

Roobubba · February 2003

I'm at uni and put a spare comp together with the old bits from an upgrade. Athlon 1.4 512 DDR266, etc. It's on 100MBit ehternet, and because I'm living in university accommodation I pay something like £8 per year for the privilege (that's about $12-14)

<img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Roob's Glorious NS ****1.04****
163.1.180.217:27016

UK server

Epoch · February 2003

Earthlink Cable, 370kbps up/2500kbps down (37kB/250kB)
$44.95 USD / month

The only complaints I have gotten about lag result from the high CPU usage, which I am in the process of upgrading (check the signature).

cracker_jackmac · February 2003

Road Runner Cable

376k/3Mbps (50KB/s up, 350KB/s down)

ppl never believe me when i say i host my server on cable either.

playerhater · February 2003

Dual p3 750's + 1gig ram + RedHat linux hosted on 2 DS3's in Orlando somewhere:) (its a secret)

SuicideDog · February 2003

100mb connect to multiple OC12's.. I'm co-lo'd at Hurricane Electric in Fremont, CA.

P4 2.8
512mb
Debian Linux
16/slot pub
15/slot scrim

I can run both servers at capacity on heavy maps and still be under 200ms pings (it's cpu lag not bandwidth) most of the time.

BTW: I've got room in my rack as well as I can host your server on one of my boxes.. I'm not going to try and compete with those guys offering server for like $2 bucks a slot. I'm just trying to offset the price of the co-lo by hosting a couple of servers. Right now I have 2 NS servers, and 4 CS servers. I've got good bandwidth and I don't oversubscribe my boxes. PM me if you are interested.

r3v0luti0n · February 2003

P3 1.2ghz, 512MB PC133, Windows 2k
Fractional DS3 w/ maxrate @ 5500, minrate at 3000. Host-imposed bandwidth restrictions.
~200ms across the board near end of round (still very much playable though).

Bytor · February 2003

P4 2.0 GHz, 512 RAM, hosted on 100 MBit to multiple OC12s at RackShack.net (owned by EV1.net in Houston) I pay $140 per month, which is covered by sites I host on the server.

Gelantious · February 2003

10Mbit/s
Location: heh, a friends apartment. they share a 1Gbit/s line in tha building but its capped at 10Mbit/s for Internet use and 100Mbit/s for internal use inside of that ISP.

masterswordman · February 2003

HURRICANE ELECTRIC "SUX", I have previously hosted CS servers with them and I like all their service, they are very nice and courteous, but the prices are the "SUX" part of it.

I recently got a quote from them, and it's $300 a Mbit, no offense but the *BEST*, level3 bandwith per Mb costs $150 a month.

I recomend fastcolocaton.net, it's from HE but at a *much* lower price.

Someone tell me why I can't upload images to server?

Bytor · February 2003

masterswordsman, nobody takes you seriously when you yell out that something "SUX" ... if you have a legitimate gripe about HE, then post it please. Otherwise you're just ranting and we don't care.

I've only heard good things about HE, but I've never had any direct experience with them. I've colocated at 3 providers since I started my small hosting business, and RackShack has been the best so far, hands down.

masterswordman · February 2003

Look at my post above, I edited it so that people could more understand.

Even before I said use fastcolocation.com, it's from HE but at a lower price. I don't have any complints about He except for the recent up in pricing.

verbose · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (masterswordman @ Feb 7 2003, 08:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I recently got a quote from them, and it's $300 a Mbit, no offense but the *BEST*, level3 bandwith per Mb costs $150 a month.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Way to pull a number out of your butt!

Please, if you don't know what you're talking about, keep your trap shut. If you still maintain that you have a clue, answer these for me:

1) Why is Level 3 "the *BEST*"? Be specific.

2) Who do I talk to at Level 3 to buy at $150 per megabit?

I run the tech side of an ISP, and I have experience with mid-sized circuits. I have also seen recent pricing from "tier 1" carriers, including Worldcom, AT&T, and Sprint. I don't see anyone offering prices anywhere near $150/Mbit, so I'd love to find out where I can buy at that level. Please, tell me.

masterswordman · February 2003

one www.888.net - offers level 3 bandwith for $150 per Mbps

try level3.net(I think) Level 3 has the most awsome ping and best traceroute. It is rated the best prenium bandwith.

Go ahead, you get that and verio, it's all good.

THE IMAGE HERE HAS BEEN REMOVED PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

masterswordman · February 2003

Sorry about the size, just go here to see my whole quote

It's big so, be warned.

Please don't say it's big and low quality, it's just to prove to you, I did edit out my information (name, phone, etc)

<a href='http://masterswordman.home.attbi.com/he2.gif' target='_blank'>http://masterswordman.home.attbi.com/he2.gif</a>, paste it into your browser

OR THE LINK BELOW SHOULD WORK

[http]http://masterswordman.home.attbi.com/he2.gif[/http]

verbose · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (masterswordman @ Feb 8 2003, 08:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>one www.888.net - offers level 3 bandwith for $150 per Mbps</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Interesting. Strange that the bandwidth pricing under "rack space" is so different from that under"colocation." Does anyone have the fine print? I'm moderately curious.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>try level3.net(I think) Level 3 has the most awsome ping and best traceroute. It is rated the best prenium bandwith.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I know their URL. Please point me to the independent reviews that say "Level 3 is the bestest".

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Here's my quote for HE, not out of my butt.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I was referring to your Level 3 pricing, which I thought was obvious from my previous post.

Could you edit the image out of your other post? It's friggin' huge, and is eliminating all text-wrapping.

masterswordman · February 2003

Alright, I changed it, and here's the rest.

SOME FACTS

all top 10 dialup providers use LEVEL 3, highspeed providers have their own backbones.

Level was chosen to host the X-Box live, and gates would always go for the best.

“Given the quality of their network and the strong presence of the company in both the U.S. and Europe, Level 3 is the best partner to provide this new level of Internet connectivity.”
- Web Host Industry Review

Level3 continues to build-out the first international all IP-based broadband network that's built from the ground up. Extending from the U.S. to Europe and Asia, the Level 3 broadband network already provides the infrastructure Web-centric businesses need today. - Meaning that your players in europe won't suffer.

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett, the world's second wealthiest man, ventured into the technology sector for the first time today as he (and two other investors) bought $500 million worth of Level 3 bonds. "Liquid resources and strong financial backing are scarce and valuable assets in today's telecommunications world," Buffett said in a statement. "Level 3 has both." The news has of course sent Level 3's stock flying, and made it the heaviest traded stock on the Nasdaq - He's invested that much in it, it must promise.

My case kinda ends there, I would also say verio is good.

It's around one of the best, just google it.

verbose · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (masterswordman @ Feb 9 2003, 12:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>all top 10 dialup providers use LEVEL 3, highspeed providers have their own backbones.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Anyone worth their salt is multihomed. UUnet, AT&T, Level 3, Genuity, Verio, Sprint, etc. Whoever the top 10 dialup providers are, and as if we care about 56k performance... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Level was chosen to host the X-Box live, and gates would always go for the best.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I sincerely hope that X-box live does not depend on a single carrier.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
?Given the quality of their network and the strong presence of the company in both the U.S. and Europe, Level 3 is the best partner to provide this new level of Internet connectivity.?
- Web Host Industry Review

Level3 continues to build-out the first international all IP-based broadband network that's built from the ground up. Extending from the U.S. to Europe and Asia, the Level 3 broadband network already provides the infrastructure Web-centric businesses need today. - Meaning that your players in europe won't suffer.

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett, the world's second wealthiest man, ventured into the technology sector for the first time today as he (and two other investors) bought $500 million worth of Level 3 bonds. "Liquid resources and strong financial backing are scarce and valuable assets in today's telecommunications world," Buffett said in a statement. "Level 3 has both." The news has of course sent Level 3's stock flying, and made it the heaviest traded stock on the Nasdaq - He's invested that much in it, it must promise.
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Marketing tripe and investor bait.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My case kinda ends there, I would also say verio is good.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

For the sake of simplicity, I'll argue one category to start, and only compare Level 3 to Worldcom. Connectivity:

Level 3
<a href='http://www.level3.net/577.html' target='_blank'>http://www.level3.net/577.html</a>

Worldcom
<a href='http://www.worldcom.com/us/about/network/maps/' target='_blank'>http://www.worldcom.com/us/about/network/maps/</a>

Ouch. But, hey, what can you do against the phone companies? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> Level 3's greatest strength may be that they aren't one, however...

Verio's pretty cool. Good buddy of mine works the midwest for them.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>It's around one of the best, just google it.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Oh I know they're good. I'd use them if they were available to me. I would not call them the "best" though. Best at what? Service? Support? Uptime? Security? Latency? Peering? Too many categories for a broad label like "best".

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