New Sc Mod

CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">hi i need a few ppl...</div> hi guys as probably u all know, i am releasing a SC mod for HL. But i need some more ppl to help with the MOD. I need a coder,mapper, modeller skinner, 2d graphics artist and i think thats it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    wtf man i added a comment in one topic and it appeared here... so i changed it quick to this... weird!
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cookie+Feb 8 2003, 02:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cookie @ Feb 8 2003, 02:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I need a coder,mapper, modeller skinner, 2d graphics artist and i think thats it :p <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hahaha. You're kidding right? That's funny. But not funny 'haha', more like funny 'oh how sad'.

    Seriously, why don't you ask the LAST starcraft half-life mod about how much of a nice experience it was to get their work shut down for illegally stealing someone elses copyrighted material?

    While you are at it, you can ask AVP Quake2, Aliens Quake, Aliens DOOM, Mortal Kombat Quake, Xmod, and the dozens of other foxed mods...
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Seriously, why don't you ask the LAST starcraft half-life mod about how much of a nice experience it was to get their work shut down for illegally stealing someone elses copyrighted material?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Agreed. You're better off describing the mod as "<i>similar to</i> starcraft" instead of saying it's a starcraft mod.

    You can attribute starcraft as an influence, but by saying it's a starcraft mod, you're basically giving Blizzard's lawyers a key to your front door. Not good. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Isn't that why the guys at Existence mod had to change a lot of stuff about their mod?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    not realy actualy

    EX never was actualy threatened, however:
    1) EX was moving away from the matrix
    2) they didn't want the chance of bad stuff happening
  • folkfolk Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8603Banned
    why not just play starcraft? omghax.
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    oh ty guys i never new about copyright laws n stuff. But i have seen loads of mods about DBZ (ESF, dragon mod Z) and they have copied the tv program and they have been round for ages.

    Well guys what can i do to change the mod so it can be as close to starcraft as possible without doing a whole new mod?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    ESF was originally a straight copy of dbz, named dbzmod too. then it was threatened to be foxed so they changed stuff to be 'similar'.

    And how can you NOT know about copyright laws? are you 7? and just came out of a coma?

    Here's an idea: people like ORIGINAL THINGS (cs, ns, tf) much moreso than unoriginal things. Come up with your own great idea, or the mod will probably be crap anyway. And with nobody to really make the mod you're kinda screwed anyway. The "oh you guys do the work and i'll make ideas" thing doesn't work. :P
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    well actually i do know how to do most of those things just that i am not very good at it. i could make this mod just wiv my m8 but that would be boring so i thought i would need some help in doing it, so dont go all i got the ideas u make it plan. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    anyway if i just change the name of the mod then itll be fine? lol coz thats what ESF done really coz i play their mod quite often <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cookie+Feb 8 2003, 03:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cookie @ Feb 8 2003, 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hi guys as probably u all know, i am releasing a SC mod for HL. But i need some more ppl to help with the MOD. I need a coder,mapper, modeller skinner, 2d graphics artist and i think thats it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hi, I'm gonna make a mod. I'm looking for people to do everything for me.
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    look ppl if u r going to flame me with useless comments then do it somewhere else plz. i am not gonna make everyone do everything. all i need now is a mapper+coder now shut the hell up <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cry_HavocCry_Havoc Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12593Members
    Are there any incentives?

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    what is an incentive? (soz i dont know complicated words)
  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    www.dictionary.com
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ty lol
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    Ahh the art of plagirism.

    Doom: ESF has always been ESF. Dragonmodz is a whole nother mod it still exists and is comming out with a new version soon.

    It probably matters what your doing and who too. Maybe bandi dosent giva care about HL mods. Blizzard how ever might, you just hafta ask them.

    It also depend on by SC mod what do you mean? Cut and paster the RTS and call it "SC for halflife" your prolly gonna get hammered. If you mean im making a SC inspired mod and it is like a FPS with zergling like units and terran like weapons, with other original ideas oriented into play then you might get by.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Salty+Feb 9 2003, 10:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salty @ Feb 9 2003, 10:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cut and paster the RTS and call it "SC for halflife" your prolly gonna get hammered. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not only would you be hammered, but there would be absolutely no reasons for anyone to ever play the game.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    but its l337 and h4Xz0r

    oh and FPS SC? sc:Gost ;D


    yah, look, if blizzard has shut down one mod already, don't expect to beable to do your own.

    Before you do anything though, go to blizzards site, find their legal stuff and email em (if not legal, as close as you can get). Give them your compleate idea (include EVERYTHING) and ask em what they think and if it would be ok for you to do it. (and don't think they won't find out)
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    Hey guys, i talked to the guys at blizzard and all i have to do is change the names a bit and thn itll be fine <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cookie+Feb 9 2003, 03:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cookie @ Feb 9 2003, 03:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey guys, i talked to the guys at blizzard and all i have to do is change the names a bit and thn itll be fine <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Cool. Let me know when you find people to do everything but supervise. Maybe I'll contribute some sprites or something.

    /sarcasm
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    They actually said that? Surprising... I would have thought they would be a little less helpfull about letting people use their concept. Well if blizzard says it's ok if you jus change the names a bit the I suppose it's ok with everybody else.

    btw whats change the names a little bit? Zerg - Zarg is a little bit but sounds too similar. I think your gonna spend most your time choosing acceptable names for everything. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Feb 9 2003, 04:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Feb 9 2003, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> btw whats change the names a little bit? Zerg - Zarg is a little bit but sounds too similar. I think your gonna spend most your time choosing acceptable names for everything. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nooh, you're doing it all wrong.

    Zerg = Zurg
    Zergling = Zurgling
    Overmind = Overmynd
    Marine = Murine
    Firebat = Firebhat
    Protoss = Protos
    Tassadar = Tasadahr
    Mod = Ripoff
    Siege Tank = Seige Tahnk
    Psionic Storm = Pysonic Storm
    Minerals = Myneruls
    Vespene Gas = Vespeen Gas
    Mutalisk = Myootalisc
    etc. It's easy! And I bet if you take all the aliens from NS and reskin them, and take the sounds directly from SC, and then add facehuggers, you are sure to avoid companies foxing you.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hey guys, i talked to the guys at blizzard and all i have to do is change the names a bit and thn itll be fine<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Just remember that Blizzard, at its most basic level, is a business. A business is designed to (<b>a</b>) make money, and (<b>b</b>) prevent others from profiting from their original ideas.

    If one of the HR drones at Blizzard said "<i>all you have to do is change the names a bit and thn itll be fine</i>", I'd still go much further than just changing some names. Mainly, make your models look distinctly different than Starcraft's models. Your models can serve the same purpose as the Starcraft equivalent, but someone shouldn't see one screenshot and say "hey, that's an Ultralisk!".
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    If you need more help to get it off the ground here is a guide to how to make FPS mods. Even flayra swears by this guide <a href='http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=54' target='_blank'>http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=54</a>
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    dear god, why are you people being such ****?

    cmon tycho beter out of you

    Aparently either blizrd is being rather decent about stuff, I meen yes if he does the zurg stuff they will kick his ***
    however, so what if people want to make a mod based off of something they like?

    I meen I don't honestly expect it to be good or anything (It takes alot to convince me a mods gonna be good)

    meh what ever

    calm the hostility guys
  • SanchoSancho Join Date: 2002-03-30 Member: 365Members
    Ok, there's a two hour gap between his last posts. Personally, I don't think he could have e-mailed Blizzard and got a reply so quick. Not to mention such a generous reply like that. I warn you, cookie, copyrights are SERIOUS. If you really were telling the truth, my apologies and good luck on your mod. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CookieCookie Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6817Banned, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    well "someonwhocares" i didnt just email em, i went onto the blizzard forums and talked to tech support which covers leag stuff sho ppl stop making me "un"motivated ppllzzz
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Feb 9 2003, 05:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Feb 9 2003, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dear god, why are you people being such ****?

    cmon tycho beter out of you

    Aparently either blizrd is being rather decent about stuff, I meen yes if he does the zurg stuff they will kick his ***
    however, so what if people want to make a mod based off of something they like?

    I meen I don't honestly expect it to be good or anything (It takes alot to convince me a mods gonna be good)

    meh what ever

    calm the hostility guys <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's bad taste to ask for everything but a project lead on another mods forums, especially when you didn't even come up with a concept.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Everyone got the flames off their chests?

    Good. <span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span>
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