Going Gorge To Get Fade First
relsan
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">cost my team the win</div> I was the only gorge, I did everything right. First I requested protection and two skulks followed me everywhere. I built two rt's and one def chamber, then I saved for the hive. I got the hive up quickly, but then I needed to build defenses. I told my team that one other player could go gorge to help me do this. To my surprise, three more guys went gorge. I said, "Hey too many. We won't be able to get defenses up fast enough." They assured me that they could cap rts faster and build defense. But they were lying...
As soon as the second hive went up, two of the guys who went gorge, evolved to fades immeadiately. They were just standing around waiting for the hive to go up. Then things got worse. They both decided to rush the marine start. The marines must've all been grouped there because they were slaughtered immeadiately. 108 resources wasted. I was able to defend my hive, but the marines got wind of the fades, decided to mobilize and killed our undefended hive. Things went downhill from there. We couldn't take back the other one because the marines had gotten too far into their tech tree and were slinging grenades and had ha. We were slowly and painfully defeated because these fools rushed into the marine start gambling hard earned resources.
If we had taken our time and use those resources to build just a few OCs here and there in the beginning, things would have turned out much different. I hope some of you will think about this, the next time you decide to go gorge just to go fade first. You could be costing your team a lot in the long run even if you don't die.
As soon as the second hive went up, two of the guys who went gorge, evolved to fades immeadiately. They were just standing around waiting for the hive to go up. Then things got worse. They both decided to rush the marine start. The marines must've all been grouped there because they were slaughtered immeadiately. 108 resources wasted. I was able to defend my hive, but the marines got wind of the fades, decided to mobilize and killed our undefended hive. Things went downhill from there. We couldn't take back the other one because the marines had gotten too far into their tech tree and were slinging grenades and had ha. We were slowly and painfully defeated because these fools rushed into the marine start gambling hard earned resources.
If we had taken our time and use those resources to build just a few OCs here and there in the beginning, things would have turned out much different. I hope some of you will think about this, the next time you decide to go gorge just to go fade first. You could be costing your team a lot in the long run even if you don't die.
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Wow is this a flame? Regardless I can't really tell if you agree with me or not. No reason to get huffy though. Go drink some warm milk and take a nap <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
That was mean...
To the topic poster
Agreed, every single part I agreed with, I hate it when that happens...
I usually stay Skulk though, or Lerk, I love both of their level 3 moves <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
y would u do something that stopid were they n00bs?
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y would u do something that stopid were they n00bs?
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Never seen a new player do this. New players by definition wouldnt work out that this kind of thing would actually work.
I think it's more experienced players that are doing this. God knows I've been temped on occasion.
Don't you also love the guy who goes Lerk immediatly when you hit 33/33 and dies within 30 sec. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
They hurt the whole team, for their lack of patience. And I'm sorry, but the more 'skilled' (relative term) players are to blame.
Noobo sees 1337o save & get Fade early.
1337o, being a vet, and quite good, 'pwns' the marines.
Noobo decides he can do this too.
Alien team get spammed due to Noobo & his friends outnumbering 1337o
Both these people are stupid. But only 1 cost us the game.
They hurt the whole team, for their lack of patience. And I'm sorry, but the more 'skilled' (relative term) players are to blame.
Noobo sees 1337o save & get Fade early.
1337o, being a vet, and quite good, 'pwns' the marines.
Noobo decides he can do this too.
Alien team get spammed due to Noobo & his friends outnumbering 1337o
Both these people are stupid. But only 1 cost us the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wouldn't say skilled. Maybe more familiar with the game. If you were skilled, you'd be more than content to score a few more kills as a skulk while you wait for res to go fade. With 1.04 jacking up the fade cost to 54, lots of people get impatient, heck even I do, but you'll never see me going gorge to get res faster. Can't wait til you get 54 to go fade? Then don't! Go be a lerk or learn how to not suck as a skulk.
I like newbies, but boy do love the way you put down n00bs.... Unforuntely, bitching at them on many servers gets you a heated response.
Maybe this just doesn't deserve the time it takes for someone to answer this. This is the kind of post that is simply ensued by 2 more pages of "yeah! people like that suck! those noobs!"
As if you don't sound like one yourself. It's a mildly interesting post, and I won't attack your right to post it. But what's the point of responding. Theres nothing you can do but agree. You can't argue the topic as the right thing to do is blatantly obvious, and thus devoid of further posts.
Just let this die.
This is something that concerns me as well.
Okay first of all, did I say anything about noobs? No, I didn't. What bothers me about this is that it's people who are actually experienced in the game that are doing it.
I think they are doing it because they believe that they can win on their own rather than trust all the aliens to work as a team. Sure aliens are less team oriented than marines but its still important; ESPECIALLY in this situation. There's a line that shouldn't be crossed because it potentially endangers the team. Its quite a visible line to me, but apparently not everyone sees it, and I wanted to bring attention to it.
Besides, if it weren't for two pages of "i agree", this thread would have sunken to the back and a lot of people would not have seen it.
So I eventhough its a no brainer to porp and havanna and most of the people on this thread, that doesn't mean we shouldn't ever speak of it. There's nothing wrong with a thread were everyone agrees and shares experiences. That's what the board is about.
Another thing is that some people have never encountered this and might not even realize if it ever happened to them. Wouldn't you want to know if this happened to you so You could ban the guy that did it?
Finally, I wanted the devs to see that this is another factor to consider when dabbling with the alien resource allocation. So I think it deserves a couple bumps, and a couple responses as its hardly an insignificant element of a game we all love.
Is it a no-brainer? To me it is. But I've been seeing this behavior an awful lot lately. Makes me wonder if people think they are really helping or just being selfish.
This surely has to be both the problem and the answer...
A lot of people are so bad at skulking they can't wait for the relativly easier Fade to arrive so they can sit back and acid rocket static objects.
Don't get me wrong I also fall into this catagory but I am willing to try (and die) as a skulk until I get better, others however seek a quick route to the Acid Tank.
Maybe there needs to be a skulk training centre set up (rumours of training levels still echo around the forums). This way the people gorge rp hogging to evolve will be negated by more fun being had biting marines. As for the Fade rush of death... well I have seen a group of four fades taken down by the sheer bad luck of having a gorge building a DC right behind them blocking their exit. (it slowed them enough HA/HMG tore them to shreds). Perhaps a skulk should have looked in the room first before the whole attack started....
My opinion.... It's cheaper all round to die as a skulk than it is to die as a Fade.. I will only go fade when res is maxing out or the team needs me to. (Once I master skulk I shall then turn my attention to mastering Fade...Onos? what are they? hehe) Maybe the glory should be taken away from Fading and the hard men that stay skulk get more glory.... Would be nice..
A gorge should try and get 3 res towers and 3 def chambers up before saving for hive.
Consider then fade cost = 54
Consider the time you will get most res is when skulks are maxed out and 2nd hive is building.
Also consider that skulks need level 3 carapace or they can not threaten marine advances at all.
Sorry if i sound patronising. I intend only to advise.