Fades

tasuOnitasuOni Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13084Members
<div class="IPBDescription">plz just rush them</div> Im realy getting p... when i see a fade ruling a base all it take i a little rush and it we go down.. the game has turned so a fades just rox u almost sure winning when u got fades..
I hate seen like 4 marine getting killed just because they are afraid of one fade if i see a fade i just rush it. 40% of the time i get it. so if all just would rush them it would be a better game. no u are almost dommed if u go marine. unless u got a great comm. but this is real hard to find. then just play as a team if there is a fade it only take 2 marines to take out a fade. even one if the fade get´s confused.. so RUSH RUSH RUSH

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  • NeoGregorianNeoGregorian Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13093Members, Constellation
    A friend of mine who played fade in my opposing team always knew who i was. The only Marine that rushed out from base ALL THE TIME just to hunt him down (phear my 1337 cloaking spotting abilities).
    Since our commander just stuck himself in the comm without actually do somethin, and the other marines just tried to camp out the fades (BAAAD IDEA!) we lost big time but i got 3 fades down, thats 162 recources.
    Go down with a bang!!!
  • IdenIden Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1513Members
    Coincidentily the latest 'fad' for countering the marine rush on fades is to have a nifty skulk in a nice hidding place, as the fade runs by and the marines out into the open, perfect chomping grounds, they're so goal oriented they really don't even noticed the chomping anymore. If they manage to kill you it's likely by that time the fade has recharged energy or healed, or both.

    I'm not saying don't rush the fades.

    I'm just saying to look out for me... er... the skulks out there <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--NeoGregorian+Feb 6 2003, 07:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NeoGregorian @ Feb 6 2003, 07:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only Marine that rushed out from base ALL THE TIME just to hunt him down <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Me 2. Iam almost every time the only marine who chases fades. Sometimes i manage to kill it, but usually not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    First i empty my lmg, then ? take pistol and empty it too and then go after him with knife, because if i start to reload iam dead. Two times i have managed to kill a fade with knife by using that "tactic".

    When weapons are upgraded to level 2 or 3, two marines can kill one fade pretty easily.
    And also many fades use their acid rockets instead of claws when i get close to them.... i don't know why, but it is their problem <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
    Old, but deserves a bump!! Tried and true lesson.
  • DDTrini_LopezDDTrini_Lopez Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7296Members
    I also like to rush fades . The only problem that I got is that I get too entusiastic and I get too close to the fade . Then it does its melee attack and it kills me :\

    The other day with a Jetpack and a shottie I stood behind a fade and with 2-3 shots I killed it , omg , i loved that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DWGuyDWGuy Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12754Members
    edited February 2003
    What makes me angry is when you're on a marine team that's getting their based worked by 2-3 fades and the first thing that they do when they spawn is go hump the armory. Not only do they refuse to rush the fades, but they waste their time gathering 250 ammo, when they'll most likely die while standing still getting ammo or die before they even get through their first clip.

    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • InexorableInexorable Join Date: 2002-09-28 Member: 1360Members
    This can go down really easily if you do it as a pair.

    Wait till the Artillery Fade (for the love of god, don't rush a guy who's figured out what those pointy bits on the end of a Fade's arms do) releases his payload, then rush. This usually means hiding behind the door/corner, and counting the acid rockets as they go by. You should start your rush just in time to see the 5th (and final) acid rocket fly by your head. At this point the Fade is completely out of energy; He can't blink or rocket, and can barely attack. So between 2 LMGs (don't strafe back and forth, it's much more important to make sure all the bullets land. This means staying out of eachother's lines of fire) and 2 Pistols, you should get 1 dead Fade.

    Repeat as necessary.
  • ArchzaiArchzai Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8007Members
    *sigh* if only i could play with u guys... it would be so much easier

    we already have 3-4 ppl here who rush.. add me in and thats 5.... 5 deadly LMG marines <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> haha

    seriously ppl dun understand how strong the LMG is... i was with a random guy on a pub and he was gutsy like me.. we took down 3 fades before we died <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Trevelyan_006Trevelyan_006 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3876Banned
    your free... he is 54... ummm so why dont people rush again?
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    If you're alone then yes, please, rush me so I'll turn you into meat... I think it's a baaaad idea to rush alone... You'll get swiped.
  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    even if you dont kill the fade most likely he'll run back to the nearest healing station to charge up. If they don't have one close by you've just bought your team some valuable time.
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Trevelyan_006+Feb 13 2003, 02:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trevelyan_006 @ Feb 13 2003, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> your free... he is 54... ummm so why dont people rush again? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I dont understand it either. Its like they have some sense of preservation with a virtual character in a virtual world.

    <i>Theres a reason why marines dont have kills and deaths displayed</i>

    Rushing really only works if you have atleast 1 damage upgrade, and it becomes 5x easier if 2 people go at the same time.
  • CadaverBoyCadaverBoy Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13074Members
    Hi, I'm CadaverBoy and I'm a newbie who rushes fades.

    And has killed fades with welders.

    Why can't the other newbies understand the meaning of..
    "Rush the fades!"?

    I'm commonly the only marine respawning as our base is under seige by fades, and will chase down a fade, unload my LMG, then unload my pistol, and if it isn't dead yet I'll pull out my knife and chase em down.Even if your alone, it's possible to kill a fade with loadout equipt, just be persistant. This is what you do to fades. You do not play cat and mouse with fades: The fade will win.

    Every time you let a fade run away, God takes a twinkie from an obese child.
    Please, think of the obese children.
  • BelrickNZBelrickNZ Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11156Members
    I think ppl who rush fades are great it bumps my 12-8 skulk score up to 36-8 end of game score. Sure the odd rush works but usually u get lots of easy kills.
    But then again all those failures are soon forgotten allowing easy bragging eh mr i rush fades and kill them all the time.
    lol

    Takes a team to rush a fade but pub games just aint well organised.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BelrickNZ+Feb 13 2003, 11:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BelrickNZ @ Feb 13 2003, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think ppl who rush fades are great it bumps my 12-8 skulk score up to 36-8 end of game score. Sure the odd rush works but usually u get lots of easy kills.
    But then again all those failures are soon forgotten allowing easy bragging eh mr i rush fades and kill them all the time.
    lol

    Takes a team to rush a fade but pub games just aint well organised. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You dont get very much kills, if marines have upgraded their weapons to level 3 and maybe some armor upgrade's too.

    In one game i was a fade and marines had upgraded weapons to max power. When ONE marine unloaded his lmg and pistol to me, i was nearly dead....my health was after that about 80/30 or something like that. And if two marines rush together..... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Yes in pub games it is not very organised, but if i see that one marine is chasing a fade, i will go after that fade too...
    It is pretty hopeless, if weapons haven't been upgraded at all, but i still try. At least i manage to deal damage to a fade and he has to go and heal himself.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->for the love of god, don't rush a guy who's figured out what those pointy bits on the end of a Fade's arms do<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> *Wide, WIDE grin* <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I have no <b>idea</b> what sort of player you could be talking about.
  • VimstlVimstl Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10145Members
    My favourite part of this whole thread are the couple of fade-players begging marines to rush them so they can up their kill/death ratio. I have seen enough fade corpses doing the funky chicken on their backsides to know this is false bravado. If one marine rushes a fade, he's got a 20-30% chance of killing it. If 2 marines rush together, they will get the fade about 80% of the time. 3 or more marines - the fade is so slaughtered redemption won't even save him.

    Rush those fades, boys. The satisfaction of killing those buggers is why it's called a <i>RUSH!!!</i>
  • Sifo25Sifo25 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12890Members
    edited February 2003
    Have to add my two cents, this is just another example of the teamwork/solowork qualities that apply to NS. Yep, the alien team can accomplish wicked stuff when they work together. They can also tear up stuff alone. Marines NEED to work together to tear stuff up. They too can do it alone, but its much, much harder.

    Work together. SUYF, stop sucking down ammo off the dispenser, and work together. Kill the Fades. If there is one, there will be more. If there is two, halve their ability to wreck a base. Kill the fades. Charge, rush, hide and wait and go in twos and threes. Cackle as they fall.

    Or dont, and lose, like on the majority of the pub servers. Then come log in here and kvetch about how hard it is for the marines, and how overpowered acid rocket is.

    ...*smirk*

    S
  • ME551AHME551AH Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13413Members
    Totally Agree... RUSH FADES RUSH FADES RUSH RUSH RUSH <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD
  • tasuOnitasuOni Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13084Members
    about not rushing fades if u are alone:

    do it any way one time in feedwater i rushed a fade in to they hive. just like in no time i was standing in the hive looking at to fades pop there goes the first fade, the other fades just ran off with me at it´s tail dont know why he did it i only had like 5 hp left but stille i kill 2 fades with the lovly lmg. ok the fades must have been realy stupid or something but still rush rush rush even if you are alone cause you will be on the pubs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->...



    make sure to visit #tasu on quakenet
  • PvtLohnePvtLohne Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13402Members
    Pvt|Lohne<--------------------------Fade Rusher.
    Only one on the server, it seems.

    BelrickNZ

    Cute, but what would you have marines do? Spend the rest of NS's life certian in the fact that once the Fades start bombing the base, you may as well leave? Say it with me now.
    Marines don't die
    They go to Hell and regroup
  • QuixotesGhostQuixotesGhost Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13690Members
    edited February 2003
    Wierd, even when I get a couple marines to come with me it seems like it's:

    RATATATATATATATATATATATATAT! (LMG Empty)
    BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG! (Pistol Empty)
    (Fade and Marines stare dumfoundedly at each other)
    RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

    Messages at top of screen:

    RandomFade Kills RandomMarine1
    RandomFade Kills [Deathtounge] Bill The Cat
    RandomFade Kills RandomMarine2

    Maybe next time, we'll just have to all pile on that Fade knifes flying.
  • G0rebashG0rebash Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13153Members
    The only reason that you 'enjoy' being rushed as a fade is because you have a load of total noobs rushing you...

    This is a noobs idea of rushing a fade:

    - hold down the fire key on your lmg till you die and run in a straight line towards fade
    - move in a procession so that the guy in front blocks the shot of everyone behind him
    - pistol....whats that? (2-3 guys rushing a fade with accurate pistol skills will kill it every time)
    - rushing from in front and behind at the same time so nowhere to retreat to....eh?
    - get right up close so they can get their even more powerful claws out
    - spend an age humping the ammo dispenser between rushes even though your never gonna get more than 2 clips off
    - rushing one at a time even though your totally unskilled....der
    - rushing through mines which the fades chuckle as they detonate
    - trying to burst fire the fades...not cs dudes
    - standing in the open as you wait for your teamates to spawn
    - standing by the ammo dispenser as you wait for teamates to spawn
    - standing by the phase gate as you wait for teamates to spawn
    - standing by etc etc ...
    - staying in the base in the first place - slow death....
  • VimstlVimstl Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10145Members
    I am addicted to fade rushing. Yesterday, I got 5 in one game, some by myself, some in concert with other marines. In one case, I solo rushed 2 fades. They were dumbfounded. I killed one, and the second killed me while I was reloading.

    All kills were with the LMG - the first two with wpn upgrade level 2, and the last 3 with level 3.

    Marines: don't assume all fades are uber. Many are N00bs who have been waiting all game to get enough hives and res to go fade, because they think it makes them invulnerable.
  • G0rebashG0rebash Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13153Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vimstl+Feb 24 2003, 12:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vimstl @ Feb 24 2003, 12:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All kills were with the LMG - the first two with wpn upgrade level 2, and the last 3 with level 3.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This dude knows what hes talking about. Lmgs are far more suited to killing fades than hmgs because of your movement SPEED. You are far more able to dodge incoming rockets, stay out of slashing range and close on the enemy b4 he can recharge his energy.

    I would advise any com with his base under attack not to issue ANY hmgs they are a wast of resources. instead invest in gren launchers and jump jets. Teams can escape a fade attack using jj and a skilled player can go for the hives...you cant get rid of the fade attack by killing them (in 3mins they will be back and thats not enough time to set up sufficient defenses) you need to create a DISTRACTION. I cant think of a better distraction than "THE HIVE IS UNDER ATAK" and then "YOUR HIVE IS DYING"....sometimes "YOUR RESOURCE CHAMBER IS UNDER ATAK" works too. Often I fly about and just poor some damage into every chamber i see...just a few bullets....fades become comfused and go all over the place looking for this 'ghost' thats attackign all their buildings and hives...Often giving enough time to get full tech and turn the game around
  • sekdarsekdar Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9564Members
    the speed is what makes the fade a killer. granted, rushing a fade is a good habit, but an even better habit is to use some tactical planning. If a fade is knocking on your door hurling acid rockets, try (only works on good pubs) to convince everyone to <i>hide</i>. Yes, you read correct. Hide. Once the fade makes the fatal step of walking INTO the base, you all unmask and fire. Since you are the one that organized this, you should be stepping between the fade and his escape route as he does this.

    Cutting off a fade's escape route is GUARANTEED, EVERY SINGLE TIME, to KILL that fade.
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