Half-life clientside scripting is really just Macros... Now... Tribes 1 and 2...THAT'S scripting. You can put up hud elements... You could make hud timers, weapon-switchers, use-on-event... say-in-response...
Damn. Half-life scripts don't deserve the name.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In CS having a buy script at the beginning of the round is almost a nessecity nowadays, since most admins give less than 3 seconds buying time before a match starts.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You must have very very slow fingers. I can usually buy everything I need just during the freeze time by hitting keyboard numbers (and B) in the right order.
<!--QuoteBegin--+Hozart++Feb 15 2003, 07:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (+Hozart+ @ Feb 15 2003, 07:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Damn scriptors, cheaters in my eyes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Agreed.
If you wanna script play on servers that are specifically designed to go against the standards of play. LAN is good for this also, as long as it's with people who share your views - but please don't play on regular servers with this junk.
There is a scirpt to empty a whole LMG clip in one second? I just got out of a game in which someone would kill everyone in like 1 to 3 seconds. Omg the cheater.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
<!--QuoteBegin--TeoH+Feb 15 2003, 10:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TeoH @ Feb 15 2003, 10:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You need a script to repeatedly tap the jump button? What are you paraplegic?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> most notably the speed-linked stuff (eternal jetpacks, speed firing) tends to be the most unbalancing given that a Marine can tear through a Carapace 3 skulk like butter <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That or you have no idea about the particular exploit I have in mind, which overrides the firing rate. The 'gunfire' wavs don't even get a chance to play properly. Easiest way to pick out when someone is using the particular one that cheeses me off.
<!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is a scirpt to empty a whole LMG clip in one second? I just got out of a game in which someone would kill everyone in like 1 to 3 seconds. Omg the cheater. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
people like u spoil the game accusing people of cheating when they are obviously not
Please try to have some small idea of what in the hell you're talking about before you try to post again.
<!--QuoteBegin--HEAD d^_^b+Feb 15 2003, 06:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEAD d^_^b @ Feb 15 2003, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is a scirpt to empty a whole LMG clip in one second? I just got out of a game in which someone would kill everyone in like 1 to 3 seconds. Omg the cheater. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
people like u spoil the game accusing people of cheating when they are obviously not
Please try to have some small idea of what in the hell you're talking about before you try to post again. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hey HEAD be nice! id be mighty suspicious if someone killed me in under a second with a LMG...it could of course been many things...Lag, upgraded weaponary..etc But there was once this guy who would be able to take out like 4 fades with a LMG in under 3 seconds whilst being shot at with hundreds of acid rockets from close range and just not DIE....that was so UNBELIEVABLY suspicous, everyone on our team were quite confused about it....
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->whilst being shot at with hundreds of acid rockets from close range and just not DIE<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[sarcasm] well there's your problem, if you're at close range and using acid rockets, you don't deserve to fade [/sarcasm]
<!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is a scirpt to empty a whole LMG clip in one second? I just got out of a game in which someone would kill everyone in like 1 to 3 seconds. Omg the cheater. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> u just carnt change the fireing speed on automatic weapon even with a script
mmm...perhaps i worded that wrong. what i meant by 'close range' was close enough to not miss....and with four of five fades lobbing acid rockets at this one guy...only for him to shoot down all of them with an LMG (we were later told that they had NO weapon upgrades) in around three to four seconds, it was quite suspicious.
It's not my fault tat someone said there is a scirpt to shoot faster. You shouldn't be insulting me. And it was like beginning of game when he killed me and several others. He also slashed his knife like super fast. You could hear the really fast slashing. That's not normal is it? Maybe he had like 1000000 FPS[/sarcasm]
<!--QuoteBegin--HEAD d^_^b+Feb 16 2003, 03:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEAD d^_^b @ Feb 16 2003, 03:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Feb 16 2003, 12:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 16 2003, 12:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You shouldn't be insulting me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe not
but please dont let this turn in to counter strike where if u kill two people u are classed as a cheat <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> oh the memories. the dark horrible mind torturing players that have 2 IQ.. And then they come to here and <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> . And then i <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> . And they <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> . And i <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> Again and Again and they call me a cheater so i <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> and then the little <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> goes back to his cage. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--HEAD d^_^b+Feb 15 2003, 07:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEAD d^_^b @ Feb 15 2003, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Feb 16 2003, 12:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 16 2003, 12:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You shouldn't be insulting me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe not
but please dont let this turn in to counter strike where if u kill two people u are classed as a cheat <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You are totally missing the point. He killed people in less than a second. And this happened to like 4 skulks. This has nothing to do with skill. It has to do with him killing stuff <b>way</b> too fast.
LMG and sometimes pistol. He almost got me with knife <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
<!--QuoteBegin--HEAD d^_^b+Feb 15 2003, 03:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEAD d^_^b @ Feb 15 2003, 03:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Feb 15 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is a scirpt to empty a whole LMG clip in one second? I just got out of a game in which someone would kill everyone in like 1 to 3 seconds. Omg the cheater. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> u just carnt change the fireing speed on automatic weapon even with a script <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, you can, to put it simply. Reload times (as far as I can tell) are not affected, but the entire firing sequence can be speeded up to the point where half the LMG's clip is gone in the space of time it normally takes to fire a single bullet, or perhaps two. Skulks with Carapace 3 dying in under a second to an LMG, when the Marine base is _empty_ excepting IPs, an Armory, and four turrets. Yes, an arms lab could have been built somewhere else. But there is NO way that the Marines can tech up to Weapons 3 within the first five minutes of the game, that I know.
As noted, this was not a crack-bouncing marine (which I hate as well, but is another topic, entirely devoted to why Marines shouldn't look like ferrets having seizures), it was one who would turn the same corner, toe-to-toe, and you were dead a second later. Speccing a friend and turning your EARS on as they got buzzsawed shows that the 'gunfire' WAV for the pistol and/or LMG does not even get a chance to play properly... it overlaps a few times over.
Perhaps it would be better to simply call this an exploit, rather than a script... some scripts are good (such as my crouch-toggle button bind for clearing hitboxing Marines out of vents), but this goes into the realm of having an unintended, gameplay balance-shifting effect.
<!--QuoteBegin--HEAD d^_^b+Feb 16 2003, 03:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEAD d^_^b @ Feb 16 2003, 03:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> but please dont let this turn in to counter strike where if u kill two people u are classed as a cheat <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Too late. It's been like that for about a month or 2 now. I see it in every game.
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
Well, this thread is hopelessly off-topic and unpleasant.
For the record, there *are* cheats in NS. That's what happens when you don't have anti-cheat support built in. One of those cheats allows extremely rapid "firing," whether it be biting or bullets or whatever. On the other hand, FPS also affect firing speed; higher FPS = faster firing rate. The pistol can be scripted to discharge its entire clip very, very quickly.
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Damn. Half-life scripts don't deserve the name.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In CS having a buy script at the beginning of the round is almost a nessecity nowadays, since most admins give less than 3 seconds buying time before a match starts.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You must have very very slow fingers. I can usually buy everything I need just during the freeze time by hitting keyboard numbers (and B) in the right order.
Agreed.
If you wanna script play on servers that are specifically designed to go against the standards of play. LAN is good for this also, as long as it's with people who share your views - but please don't play on regular servers with this junk.
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most notably the speed-linked stuff (eternal jetpacks, speed firing) tends to be the most unbalancing given that a Marine can tear through a Carapace 3 skulk like butter
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And you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That or you have no idea about the particular exploit I have in mind, which overrides the firing rate. The 'gunfire' wavs don't even get a chance to play properly. Easiest way to pick out when someone is using the particular one that cheeses me off.
Don't be snippy, flamebait.
people like u spoil the game accusing people of cheating when they are obviously not
Please try to have some small idea of what in the hell you're talking about before you try to post again.
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
people like u spoil the game accusing people of cheating when they are obviously not
Please try to have some small idea of what in the hell you're talking about before you try to post again. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
hey HEAD be nice!
id be mighty suspicious if someone killed me in under a second with a LMG...it could of course been many things...Lag, upgraded weaponary..etc
But there was once this guy who would be able to take out like 4 fades with a LMG in under 3 seconds whilst being shot at with hundreds of acid rockets from close range and just not DIE....that was so UNBELIEVABLY suspicous, everyone on our team were quite confused about it....
[sarcasm] well there's your problem, if you're at close range and using acid rockets, you don't deserve to fade [/sarcasm]
was there an admin in da' house?
u just carnt change the fireing speed on automatic weapon even with a script
what i meant by 'close range' was close enough to not miss....and with four of five fades lobbing acid rockets at this one guy...only for him to shoot down all of them with an LMG (we were later told that they had NO weapon upgrades) in around three to four seconds, it was quite suspicious.
maybe not
but please dont let this turn in to counter strike where if u kill two people u are classed as a cheat
maybe not
but please dont let this turn in to counter strike where if u kill two people u are classed as a cheat <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh the memories. the dark horrible mind torturing players that have 2 IQ.. And then they come to here and <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> . And then i <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> . And they <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> . And i <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> Again and Again and they call me a cheater so i <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> and then the little <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> goes back to his cage. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
maybe not
but please dont let this turn in to counter strike where if u kill two people u are classed as a cheat <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are totally missing the point. He killed people in less than a second. And this happened to like 4 skulks. This has nothing to do with skill. It has to do with him killing stuff <b>way</b> too fast.
how many times did he get 4 kills? i bet you can do it if you get lucky enough.
u just carnt change the fireing speed on automatic weapon even with a script <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, you can, to put it simply. Reload times (as far as I can tell) are not affected, but the entire firing sequence can be speeded up to the point where half the LMG's clip is gone in the space of time it normally takes to fire a single bullet, or perhaps two. Skulks with Carapace 3 dying in under a second to an LMG, when the Marine base is _empty_ excepting IPs, an Armory, and four turrets. Yes, an arms lab could have been built somewhere else. But there is NO way that the Marines can tech up to Weapons 3 within the first five minutes of the game, that I know.
As noted, this was not a crack-bouncing marine (which I hate as well, but is another topic, entirely devoted to why Marines shouldn't look like ferrets having seizures), it was one who would turn the same corner, toe-to-toe, and you were dead a second later. Speccing a friend and turning your EARS on as they got buzzsawed shows that the 'gunfire' WAV for the pistol and/or LMG does not even get a chance to play properly... it overlaps a few times over.
Perhaps it would be better to simply call this an exploit, rather than a script... some scripts are good (such as my crouch-toggle button bind for clearing hitboxing Marines out of vents), but this goes into the realm of having an unintended, gameplay balance-shifting effect.
Too late. It's been like that for about a month or 2 now. I see it in every game.
For the record, there *are* cheats in NS. That's what happens when you don't have anti-cheat support built in. One of those cheats allows extremely rapid "firing," whether it be biting or bullets or whatever. On the other hand, FPS also affect firing speed; higher FPS = faster firing rate. The pistol can be scripted to discharge its entire clip very, very quickly.
Expect issues like these to be addressed in 1.1.
So yeah, I think we're done here.