Best Map For Newbies
ShadowSniper
Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12079Members
Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12079Members
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Because its architecture is imple. Just corridors and it's not a maze.
I'd say Tanith. A nice, bright map with easily identifable, unique rooms.
Hera is also like that.
Stay away from bast and lost.
Bast first. Aside from being a small maze, and with so many elevation changes it's hard to get your bearings, it has a vent that gives ready acess to the whole base, and you can bet every skulk on the other side knows this, PLUS it has this unique revolving door that's so well tucked into the corner behind the rez chamber it took 4 games on that map for me to even find it when I first started. I kept wondering how aliens were arriving from the wall. It's fun once you get your bearings though, alot of the massive vents can be weilded and if you jump on that, the aliens are at a severe disadvantage.
Hera. Sweet lord. Message to any newbies."Abandon Hope, all ye who enter here." I'm not kidding at all, and while I hate to propagaite a defeatest attitude, if you /are/ a newbie and you know it? Raise your F4 key. Get OUT and OFF that map. You will frustrate your self, your marines, and your commander. That place is the sort of "maze" that gave rise to the word "Labryinth" and it stays that way for a good 10 games. There is a "Vent" that is the most painfully hard to defend thing you'll face in all the standard NS maps. Elevation changes. Switchbacks. Doors that require wielding to open. Everything. Oh, and if for some reason you're a newbie and you think you can handle it, wait till the ole com tells you to "Watch Holoroom until we get there". PSSSSHH. /4/ vents , 1 door, one tunnel, two archways into that room,arranged in a circle around the rez nods and you're in the middle. Did I mention 6 out of the 8 ways inside were on diffrent levels? I'm not kidding. That room, when assualted by competend aliens, is like trying to play Serius Sam, only with 2 health, and one clip. What do coms see? A Rare "double rez" opportunity. What do /you/ see? Why in Gods name did I volunter for the TSA, and what is that chuckling noise. The good news? Once you know what to do and get some experince, a full 80 percent of all vents on that map can be weilded shut, a must on any map I make..you know..once I learn to MAKE maps and all. That, and the two main path doorways, huge heavy jobs, can be weilded up or down at your preference. Once cuts off aliens into the nearest western rez node, the other allows you to cut your trip to the western hive by 2/3. Not to shabby.
Hope this helped
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i think eclipse is the best for new players. Very straightforward and simple-yet-effective layout.
ns_missilecommand.
Easiest <i>real</i> map I would say is... yeah, eclipse.
Nothing is also good, as its architecture is essentially rectangular.
Caged is about the worst. I still get lost. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
They were the maps I probably learnt quickest as a newbie.
Eclipse and Tanith I would say are both pretty good beginner maps. The best advice I can give you is to just keep playing, the maps seem intimidating and unlearnable at first, but soon enough you will know the names of every room on every map.
Hera was the very first map I played on upon release, although confusing at first the basic layout can be learnt in 10 minutes or so.
Of course, that was from the alien perspective, from the marine perspective, hera is a meat in a can experience...
I'd say eclipse would win hands down for both sides...
/me thinks ns_dust
/me put ont he flame shield for mentioning something from CS.
Yeah eclipse is fun. I found bast and caged to be the most confusing at first, though the map I absolutely still HATE as mariens is nancy. (TOO DARK!!!!!!) I've been playing since december and i STILL don't know every nook and cranny in the maps (nancy vent systems I havent learned, and hera vents I haven't learned, especially which ones can be weled and where)
eclipse is an easy map to learn but I remember the area around comp core was kinda confusing
nothing was the last map I learned, alot of it looks the same/similar it seemed alot bigger when I didnt know the map.
I played Bast first, and now it's the map that I know the best. Followed by Hera and Eclipse. Eclipse is also a good map to learn on, because it's not too big and not too difficult to learn, and you can always have a good game on it. It's the map I would reccomend if you're trying out alien for the first time.
THere is one vent system. If you go to a vent, you can reach every part on the map if you don't get lost...
Just think of the map in terms of Four Rooms and a few Lines that connect them.
The first two rooms you should put in your head are <b>REFINERY</b> and <b>ENGINE</b> hives. Think of a straight line connecting those two hives. In the actual map, theres a slight turn near REFINERY, and the line consists of some really severe elevation changes, but as the lerk flies, its basically a straight line, and if you think of it that way, it'll help.
Halfway between REFINERY and ENGINE, at the highest elevation (you can't miss it) is the MARINE START. To get into the marine start, theres a turning door or a vent... just crawl into the vent, or push the button to open the door. Not too hard, may take you a moment or two to find it the first time.
The third hive is to the far left of REFINERY. Just go left from REFINERY hive, (right if you're facing the other way) and you'll be in a tram way. Follow that to the end, into the small room, straight up, and you're at FEEDWATER hive. It sounds more complicated than it is, remember think straight lines.
FEEDWATER has another entrance that leads to a double node and also the marine base. It's very straightforeward, even if it does twist a bunch. Just follow the tunnels without going into any vents and you eventually get to an elevator which leads into the marine base.
<span style='font-family:Courier'>.........................................
...................ENGINE................
.......|------......|....................
.....---.....|......|.........There's....
..FEED.......MARINE.|.........also a bunch
..WATER-|........---|.......of stuff over
........|...........|.......here, but you
........|...........|.......can basically
........|...........|.......ignore it until
........|...........|.......you understand
........--------------.....the rest of the
.....................|..............map..
...................REFINERY..............
.........................................</span>
2 major ones, 2-3 minor ones.
2 major ones, 2-3 minor ones.
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Cheese and rice. I might need to print that one out and put it on my wall for reference when I'm ventcrawling on that map. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yes some are easier to get lost in, but if you avoid those maps you'll never learn them... if you run into Hera or Bast do <b>not</b> F4, just stick it out and follow your teammates around.
Hera on the other hand is a HUGE Map full of many vents and rooms. However once you play it for a while it is not that bad as there are both positives and negatives for both teams. (eg: Marines: getting to "processing" to build there)
I would list other maps, but unfortunately my memory sucks and I can not remember the names. I know what they look like though <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
2 major ones, 2-3 minor ones.
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Very helpful.
I think the vents should be joined around the big cargo storage room next to mess hall. I've found the vents difficult to get into with a jet pack, as it requires exact timing. I can do it most of the time, but when I'm commanding its frustrating to see my marines die from a skulk to the back when they're trying (in vain) to fly into those vent openings.